theory| the yellow eyes daemon creation

[Calena]

Originally Posted by helps

I see you've made all of those points, so I'm afraid I have nothing more on my mind.. Blame Misha lol... I've been catching up on the stuff and soo...
I'll come back on here when I get some new thoughts.. .

My, you are useless today. Completely Misha bedazzled!

Originally Posted by ExtraCookie

SO, I won't be surprised if he does or doesn't.

Master Kripke will be sad to hear he can't suprise you!

About Lucifer being beautiful: As far as I know that's the story how it's told in the bible: Lucifer was the most beautiful of the angels, Lucifer actually means "Bringer of Light", he was god's fave angel. Then god created the humans (out of sheer boredom, I guess) and told his angels that humans now were his fave playthings and the angels were supossed to bow before the humans. Lucifer said "screw you, I won't bow down before these pity morons" and god then cast him out of heaven, but graciusly gave him hell to rule over and earth/humans to seduce/play with.
Or something along these lines. Where are the Christian fundamentalists when you need them?

Is he still beautiful? No idea. If he's still an angel he probably is. Anyway, we'll seem him vesseled, and the vessel looks attractive enough for me.

elikookoo Is Lilith even in the bible? I don't think she's in the Christian version. So I don't think god punished Lucifer for making a demon out of Lilith, because he got cast out before he made her a demon (see story above)
According to SPN canon Lucifer made Lilith, but I never heard her complain about it on the show. I got the feeling she was rather devoted to "daddy".

and after i just saw the last episode again[to get an answer for Calena i saw the part that shows sam with black eyes and he never went to hell..

Yeah, but he drank demon blood up to the brim.

i searched supernova and found the Nokia 7310 Supernova White check his colors and tell me if thats what u ment

I meant Supernova like in an exploding sun - that's pretty bright isn't it? But cool that a colour named supernova actually exists.

btw how does the writers explain that the crossroad daemon offered dean to bring his father back if she couldnt bring dean back at the 3rd-4th seasons
or was it because she didint hold the contract,but yet again she didint had the contract for jhon either

Demons lie and taunt. Refresh my memory please, in what ep was the offer to bring John back made?

[ExtraCookie]

"Crossroad Blues," Calena. She said she could bring him back, just like he was. Lovely that Eric left that door wide open for my John to come back home through!

[helps]

My, you are useless today. Completely Misha bedazzled!

Thank you! and today I seem to be useless again as I slept few hours and now going to the doc and granny, LOL.. when i come back I'll be like "Misha MIsha MIsha... where is MIsha" ROFL

[elikookoo]

finaly i got hard proof that azazel is stronger then lilith
or at least a proof about the eye colors

in the show the more powerful is the daemon he is immune to more stuff
like mag was immune to the holy ground thing and lilith and azazel were immune to holy water
so here is my proof-
we said thet white eyed daemons r stronger then yellow eyed one[azazel]
so technicaly alastair is stronger then azazel, because he has white eyes
and still we saw in s01 e22[azazel said it,when he was possessing jhon] that holy water doesn't work on azazel
and we saw at s03 e16[ruby said it when dean sam bobby and her were looking for lilith] that it doesn't work on lilith either
BUT at s04 e16[when dean torture alastair] we saw that holy water does work on alastair
so the only reasonable solution is that lilith is a strong white eyes daemon
alastair is a weaker white eyes daemon and azazel is the only YED and is stronger then lilith
as long as the daemon's eyes color represent his power