Winchester Girls

[smileyone]

Damn.... you are competitive!!!

Shorter.... And Smiley is back in the lead.... Whoo hoo!!!

[Calena]

Originally Posted by smileyone

Damn.... you are competitive!!!

Shorter.... And Smiley is back in the lead.... Whoo hoo!!!

you are not on topic!

Shortest post ever!

[smileyone]

So what didn't you like about Mal Reynolds, then?

I just never really got the point of him.... for me he never looked like a strong leader character .... sure he was there at the front of things.... but I dunno.... I thought I would have honestly got his actual character more... but somehow, I just never really got him! Maybe it was down to the actor for me.... For the record, I didn't think the actor who protrayed him did a bad job of his role at all... I just dunno.... something for me was just not right.... I have the whole boxset of Firefly and the Serenity movie on DVD but other then sitting thru the first half dozen eps of the series before giving up on it I really still have to be convinced it's worth watching... Maybe it's because I am not a big SW fan.... Sure I know the characters etc.... but things set in space about federations etc... tend to bore me rigid.... The female characters didn't work for me in either series either....

[smileyone]

you are not on topic!

Competitive AND picky... LOL!!!
Yeah Ha Yeah Ha....

[ExtraCookie]

Originally Posted by DramaDiva

I don't think it is more unrealistic. If the girls were trained like Sam and Dean were , since childhood, I find it perfectly plausible. It's all about the training, plus I am a firm believer that anything a guy can do a girl can do better.....why else would we get to have the babies..lol. Girls are smaller by nature so wouldn't be safe to say that a girl would be more stealthy , since we can after all fit in smaller spaces . We might be weaker physically( I dunno though because I have seen some pretty buff chicks) but I think we would make up for that mentally . Girls tend to think things through more than men do. So really all the men have on there side is the brute....we win LMAO.

I'm sorry, but I must take issue with this. The statement about anything a guy can do, we can do better . . . it's just scientifically untrue! (The same is true if you reverse that statement.) If this were true, you'd see men boxing and wrestling (real wrestling) women, etc. It's simply untrue. I'm all for girl power, but, physically, we are flat-out unmatched with men. It's just a fact. That's not to say that no woman can best no man physically ever. It's just to say that no woman could take the physical trauma that the Winchesters have and survive. For that matter, no guy really could, either; let's face it! I'd love to meet a Supernatural fan who's a doctor or nurse, etc. so they could break down for us what the results of all the trauma they've been through would be in the real world! In the real world, I'm quite sure neither of our guys would've survived the first season! But guys, in general, are physically stronger than women in general. So, it's easier to for most people to buy that these two strong, well-trained guys manage to live through all the physical trauma they do and manage to still be properly functional. Men and women are equally important and have an equal amount of strengths & weaknesses, good attributes and bad, but to go so far as to say each gender can do anything the other can is untrue.

I don't know from Buffy, guys. I'm not trying to down the show. I'm just saying it didn't look like my kind of thing. And I wish I'd never brought it up now! All I'd meant to do was compare her fighting style (SHE HAS MAGICAL FIGHTING POWERS, PEOPLE! THE WINCHESTERS DO NOT! SAMMY ONLY RECENTLY WAS ABLE TO MAGICALLY FIGHT DEMONS--JUST DEMONS--AND THAT'S IT!) and the overall look/tone/feel of the show as one way to help illustrate why I didn't think the Winchester girls would work in the same way or as well as Winchester boys do. And, from what y'all have told me (well, Calena and Dramadiva, anyway), apparently, this Joss dude doesn't put out a vibe that draws me in. I was never interested in watching Firefly, either (although I thought that guy was hot and, yes, very Han Soloish from what I could tell in the commercials). If it'll make you feel better, maybe I'll try to find some Buffy on the 'net and see if I can't make myself sit through at least one entire episode and then I'll give an honest report! Maybe she is great, dark, snarky, strong, etc. But she's no Winchester! To me, it's like comparing apples to oranges.

Ha! I didn't mean to start a short post competition! I just commented on my inability to make them. Just a way to let y'all know that I do realize what a freakin' rambler I am! I just can't seem to help myself! I'm a hermit, I usually have no one to talk to, so, yeah . . . the rambling posts happen! Sorry.

[Calena]

All I'd meant to do was compare her fighting style (SHE HAS MAGICAL FIGHTING POWERS, PEOPLE! THE WINCHESTERS DO NOT!

As Drama already said, no, Buffy DOES NOT HAVE magical fighting powers. She spends A LOT of time training how to fight. She is very fit and toned, due to this fact. She has gymnastic abilities, but she started out as a cheerleader! The only magical thing Buffy has is enhanced healling. She doesn't use weapons, that's true, but that's due to the fact that vampires can only be killed in 3 ways: staking/beheading/burning - sunlight. Staking seems to be the most convenient, because Buffy can carry a stake at all times, as opposed to a heavy battle axe for beheading or a flamethrower (although there are flamethrowers and rocket launchers in the show).

Don't watch a random ep of Buffy, start with the first one.
Just so you don't have to strain yourself searching for it: http://www.surfthechannel.com/episode/29/26876.html

all this talk about Buffy makes me wanna rewatch it.

I agree with you about the physical differences between men and women. However for the topic at hand, would the Winchester work as sisters, it's not really relevant, imo, because like you said the viewer has to suspend a certain amount of disbelief to buy that the boys survive the things they survive anyway, so the viewers who are into the show could/would do the same for girls.

Ha! I didn't mean to start a short post competition! I just commented on my inability to make them. Just a way to let y'all know that I do realize what a freakin' rambler I am! I just can't seem to help myself! I'm a hermit, I usually have no one to talk to, so, yeah . . . the rambling posts happen! Sorry.

1) I can totally relate to you. I would life the hermit life too, if unlucky circumstances wouldn't force me to live with my mother right now.
2) When I saw you made a post in here my instant reaction was "yeah! Something long and interesting to read" So don't you dare cut yourself short because of some unwarranted paranoia they might have ingrained on you on a certain forum of a certain network we won't mention here!

but just for the record, if we did have a short post competition, I'd have won by now!

[ExtraCookie]

But . . . but . . . she said, "The only 'power' Buffy really had was healing fast and super charged fighting abilities." Isn't super charged magical? Didn't she do flips in the air and stuff no real fighter on Earth (even a former gymnast/cheerleader) does?! OK, OK, I'll watch Buffy, day-um! I'm gonna be busy for a while (perhaps "I should be busy" would be the more correct phrase, heh heh), so I don't know when, but I will and thanks for the link.

I just think you should know that I just visualized Dean and Sam somersaulting (sp??) through the air, flipping and stuff . . . and it was pretty damned funny!

We have to agree to disagree on being just as able to suspend disbelief when it comes to physical trauma/fighting for (completely non-magical [Sammy's specific demon power aside]) women as men. Some people can, but I don't feel most would and I couldn't. I certainly could be wrong of course! It has happened, oh, maybe a few times, here and there . . . I guess . . . or so I'm told.

Oh, man, I know all about having to live with the mother; been there, done that! Even if we love 'em (and I do love mine to pieces) that can be rough!

Awwwww, thank you! *sniffle* Seriously, that was very sweet; the feeling's mutual! Glad to know my rambling isn't driving at least one person away! Of course, you probably just said that in order to sweet talk me into watching Buffy! I'm on to you!

P.S. By the way, are any of the countries you foreigners (that's my term of endearment for all of you non-U.S. residents, "rude American" that I am; deal with it! ) are in having cooler weather than a jungle-steamy 93 deg. (I don't know what that is celsius! But it's damned hot)? If so, will you please send me tickets to there immediately so I can walk outside without having a heat stroke? See, it's for charity! So, thanks. Ha!

P.P.S. This short post competition? Obviously, I'm not a part of it! I could never win that!

[candyrose]

Howdy all!

I can’t believe I missed this thread; there is along going on here. I honestly don’t know where to start because there have been many things said which warrant a response; some of these things are slightly unrelated to the original topic. Anyway, I’ll try to give it a good go.

They could have made a show about the Winchester girls, and I would have watched it. I think it’s possible for such a show to be made and to be high in quality. However, I don’t know how successful the show would have been or how crazy and devoted the fan base would be.

First of all, I have to say Supernatural is a very unique show, unlike any other on television. Its winning formula consists of the brotherly dynamic. The interactions between the brothers are very interesting, and each brother has his own unique set of quirks and mannerisms. If the show had been about two sisters, instead of being about Sam and Dean, I don’t think it would be exactly the same. Even if the writers and creators could pull off such a show, it could never be a substitute for the real Supernatural.

With that being said, I do think it’s possible for a show like Supernatural to focus on two sisters, instead of being a male-dominated show where the most important characters are men and women are simply secondary characters that do not appear on the show with any real consistency. Of course, this would be no easy feat; it would take a certain type of writer/creator to pull it off.

Television is rife with stereotypical portrayals of women. Typically, a female character’s journey is rather limited, especially compared to the multitude of male characters on television. It appears many writers have a difficult time deciding what to do with female characters. This leads to too many females being depicted as the object of a male character’s affection/desire. They are not proactive, independent characters with complex and multilayered stories; they are merely there to accept and/or deal with the many advances made by the male character. If they are actually in a relationship within the context of the story, they serve as the support system for the male, basically staying in the background and occasionally fetching this and that for the male, given him reassurance when it’s needed, being the typical female nag that is both needy and annoying, and so forth. When a story does veer away from the traditional gender scripts for women and the female is not passive and not there to be chased by other men, females are still relatively confined in the world of television. Most often, a female character has to be in some sort of relationship and has to be experiencing some sort of relationship problems. If she isn’t being chased down, she’s the one doing the chasing. Yes, sometimes these characters are stronger and more proactive; they are living independent lives in which they are not confined to one man. They have various dating exploits and play the game, but they are still looking for Mr. Right. And, then, when the woman begins to experience dating problems, she is often depicted sitting on the couch, watching some sappy love story, digging into a big bucket of ice cream and eating other comfort foods. The problem with this picture, however, is that it still depicts women as being in need of a man. Women prioritize relationships and finding a good man about everything else.

Of course, there are a few exceptions where strong women are seen on television, but even these exceptions are not without stereotypes. Look at female action stars and heroines: They kick ass and bust out some killer ninja moves, and somehow they always look like they have just stepped onto a photo shoot. Their hair looks perfect, and their make-up looks freshly done. It’s rare you see them looking roughed up, and if they somehow do, it is compensated for by ripped clothing that exposes their curves. It also seems like, for the most part, they always have to put these female characters in tight leather or latex. Their tits are often huge, with their cleavage popping out, on full display. The imagery that is created often makes it difficult to take these characters seriously. Their merely playboy pinups dressed in special gear so that men can salivate over them. It sends the wrong message to women and young girls, and it makes it difficult for the female audience to relate to these characters.

Now that I’ve gotten that out of the way, I have to say there are a few shows that have avoided these overt stereotypes and clichés. Buffy is one of those shows. Another show would be Veronica Mars. The writers/creators of these shows managed to create female characters real women and young girls could identify with and relate to. The characters weren’t all sexed up, nor were they needy and clingy like many other female characters. I think, over the past few years, there has been a growing trend to depict women in a more realistic and easily identifiable manner. I could sit here and list some of the characters and go in detail explaining why they’re much different, but I won’t. However, I have to say some of these attempts are more successful than others. Some writers do attempt to make their female characters more authentic, but they seem to fall short, which results in a poorly developed story for their female characters, one that is interesting and gets people’s attention, but always falls short because the writers don’t follow through with the promise they give these characters.

When thinking about if a Winchester girls duo could work, the above is only part of the picture that needs to be taken into consideration. Personally, I think the right creator/writer could pull it off and create a really intriguing and entertaining story, but I cannot attest to how successful it would be among the audience in general. I think the tricky part would be deciding what audience to market it to. If the show follows the same format as Supernatural, then it might be a tough sell to the make to the audience if the female main characters were not drool-worthy. The brothers get a whole lot of screen time, and I think showing two female characters similar to them, might become old after awhile for some men. I’m somewhat undecided how it would be perceived by the female audience. If you look at the Supernatural fan base, it almost entirely consists of females. Even if many of the fans love the story for its substance, it’s kind of hard to deny that part of the appeal comes from the visages of Jensen and Jared. Girls love those two guys. They’ve developed crushes and have become die hard fans. Fans of the show pick their favorite--who is the hottest and has the most appeal—and they defend them like they would defend their own religion. I, at times, honestly wonder what that says about the general public (when a show is filled with stereotypes and the characters are there to only be drooled over). I have to say I’m glad Supernatural managed to accomplish both: They made a really good story that girls who are not prone to drooling can enjoy, but have added some drool-worthy guys for those fans who are always ready with their drool-catching-buckets.

I don’t remember who it was, but someone mentioned that female characters in certain genres are not realistic, mainly because it’s less convincing when a girl kicks as than when a guy kicks ass. That is a complete stereotype and so not true; that is something that should be judged based on the individual, not their gender alone. It’s incorrect to assume men are bigger and stronger than women. There are plenty of men who are rather small and not very strong at all. I know plenty of men who are rather short; in fact, many of them are shorter than I am. I’ve seen many women—and I’m not talking about big bodybuilders, here—who have been able to exert more strength and power than many men are capable of doing. Heck, my own mother, although a taller woman, was rather skinny, and she could kick most guys’ asses. My mother wasn’t a super hero, a bodybuilder, nor educated in the martial arts; she was just an incredibly strong woman. Furthermore, fighting is not about strength alone; it’s about knowing how to use one’s body and one’s strength as an advantage. It’s also about being quick, limber, and being smart. If a female knows the right moves, how to use her body, the right points to hit, and is quick and uses her brain, she could probably kick any average guy’s ass. Women are more than capable of doing almost anything a man does. It’s just that we don’t see very many women doing these things not because they are incapable of doing so, but because they choose not to. Plus, well, it’s probably due to the fact such women defy traditional views of femininity, and that makes people incredibly uncomfortable.

Oh, I almost forgot. There are female boxers and wrestlers. I've actually known a few women who were boxers, wrestlers, and football players. I knew this one girl who could go out on the field and play football with the other GUYS, and she kicked a lot of ass on the field. They didn't have to give her special treatment or be gentle with her; they treated her like they would have treated any MAN on the field, and she held her own, really.

I personally find who do not adhere to the traditional, very confining, gender expectations enforced by society. It’s incredibly refreshing to see a woman who is not afraid to offend people with her individuality, strength, and independence—all while being confident with herself and even her femininity. These are the women who make good role models because whatever it is they are doing, they are not giving into pressures and do not betray who they are. It’s a shame these women aren’t given more credit. I think that’s the problem with society, and, specifically, television audiences. Too many stereotypes have been shoved in their faces. With many, it’s basically a situation where if a character, specifically female, does not fit into a person’s existing schemas, it makes them incredibly uncomfortable. People say a strong woman who can kick some ass is unrealistic and unconvincing, but what about the depictions of all women being needy, not being happy unless they have a man, always looking made up and perfect, having disproportionately large breasts, with a shelf for an ass and a string for a waist? Is that any more unrealistic than a woman throwing a few punches and kicking some guy’s ass? I personally find that more unconvincing, more unhealthy, and more offensive than a strong woman who can hold her own.

In summation, if Supernatural were about two sisters, instead of two brothers, I would watch the show and most likely fall in love with it. I don’t watch Supernatural because two, young hot guys are in it; I watch it for the great writing and storytelling. I’ve never been one to sit and drool over the guys. I’m not as obsessed, lustful, or in love as some fans are. I just don’t know how many others are the same way.

But . . . but . . . she said, "The only 'power' Buffy really had was healing fast and super charged fighting abilities." Isn't super charged magical? Didn't she do flips in the air and stuff no real fighter on Earth (even a former gymnast/cheerleader) does?! OK, OK, I'll watch Buffy, day-um! I'm gonna be busy for a while (perhaps "I should be busy" would be the more correct phrase, heh heh), so I don't know when, but I will and thanks for the link.

Even if her fighting abilities were a bit exaggerated, it still can't be used in an argument about how female fighters are unrealistic because some male fighting abilities shown on television are just as exaggerated, if not more so. That's television--and movies, if you want to include it all, here: things are exaggerated to make it more entertaining to watch.

[ExtraCookie]

Whoa! I either can't address that whole post, candy, or will have to do so in installments! You need to cut back on the Red Bull!

So, a few points.

I never said that girls kicking ass is unrealistic period. I specifically stated that your average female cannot TAKE a beating as well as your average male. If you took a man and a woman of comparable build (that is to say a man of the same build as, say, Jared and a female equivalent . . . not that she'd be built like Jared, but would be the female counterpart; his same build/level of fitness in the female world) and the same huge guy beat the crap out of both of them in the exact same way (exact same punches/kicks, etc. in the same places, for the same duration, etc.) the chick would come out of it hurt worse than the guy would! Come on! If they both had the same fighting skills and know-how. That chick would be hurt worse than that guy!

I wasn't being general. I was talking about the specific physical trauma that happens in Supernatural. If you took 2 females of comparable build and ability and put them through the exact same physical trauma Dean and Sammy have been through (just think it through, ep. for ep.), they'd come out worse for it. Like I said, realistically, of course, Dean and Sammy couldn't take it either. But two women of comparable build and skills (no cheating here! No unusually large, extra-buff chicks. No extra skills or knowledge that the Winchesters don't have! I'm talking all things being equal and even!) could NOT handle the exact same physical trauma the same way! It's just medical fact! If you make the situation totally equal, that's just truth; no matter the woman, it's a woman (unless she used to be a man, of course)! There are undeniable physical differences!

SURE, some men are smaller and weaker than some women! Of course! And SURE there are some ass-kicking women! And sure there are women wrestlers, etc. I said that women boxers/wrestlers, etc. are not pitted against men! If they did/do pit a male against a female in a sport like that, they have to pit an unusually strong/tough woman against a man who is at least slightly smaller/less buff. (I'm quite sure this football-playing girl you spoke of was at least somewhat stronger/more fit than the average female! Either that, or the guys were holding back a bit and it just wasn't obvious.) I feel quite certain a medical expert could back me up here! If everything in the female vers. of Supernatural happened exactly the same and the Winchester sisters were evenly built (Dean and Sammy are strong, tall and buff. But they're not wrestler/body-builder/strong-man, etc. strong and tough. Therefore, the female versions would need to be the same, am I making sense?), it would be more unbelievable than it already is! At least to most people, surely!

So, sure, it's realistic enough (within the paramaters of the whole fictitious hollywood realm, of course) for a woman to kick ass. Didn't say it wasn't. Just that in this very, very particular, specific situation, it would be more unrealistic than it already is. I can't suspend my disbelief often even with our guys; I've had plenty of "Oh, come on!" and "Yeah, right" moments. If they were girls (comparable girls! No cheating!) I'd probably pretty much never be able to. If they made the fem version and adjusted it accordingly, yeah, I could. And I think a female version of the Winchesters would be awesome and something I'd like to see! Only, of course, they'd need their own, original storyline/plot. Some chicks that I could more easily identify with. Girls in jeans/casual clothes, girls whose makeup and hair doesn't look perfect after hours on the road or just getting into a fight. Girls who have only human fighting skills (as close to exactly the same as the Winchesters have) and whose builds are the female versions of J2s. And, yes, who aren't always after a man/dealing with a man, etc. Yeah, I could dig that.

There's a difference between men and women right there. If the show was really, truly a female version of the show as is (only adjusted where needed physically), women could still enjoy it. Guys, however, probably wouldn't. If a chick's not just being hot and sexy all the time, the general male audience isn't going to care. At least that's the impression that I get. Why else are most fem heroes the way they are? It's not for straight chicks, that's for sure! And lesbians are a minority, so I'm pretty sure they're not the target!

I both love the story, etc. of the show and love to look at/listen to J2M. I'm not what I think of as a drooling fangirl. I don't search for every single scrap of info on them I can find. I don't have posters or a plethora of photos. I don't gossip about their love lives, etc. But, yeah, sure, I find them very attractive and am not afraid to say so! But, for me, it's just a bonus. There are always shows that have hot guys in them; doesn't mean I watch 'em. Soaps are full of 'em (Jensen was on one!), and you'd have to pay me good money in order to make me watch those! Ugh!

I also know there's more to fighting than strength. Again, I'm putting everything in the very specific perspective of Supernatural. All things equal. If they knew no more fighting styles/moves than our guys and were physically comparable. Our guys barely survive; I sure don't see comparable chicks making it!

You're so right about the typical depiction of females in TV/movies! It's so annoying! If a woman does kick ass, she has to usually do it wearing skintight leather or short skirts and heels! Heels, for goodness' sake! What?! Also, wouldn't giant boobs kind of get in the way? Weigh a chick down when she's trying to gracefully maneuver and fight for her life? I wouldn't know personally *snicker* I'm built like a pixy! Yeah, pretty much just look up a traditional illustration of a pixy, imagine her 5' 4 1/2" tall and that's me. But it just seems that would be the case. Esp. if they're fake. Trying to do spin kicks and stuff and those fake sacks boinging around. Maybe they could be utilized as weapons, though. They could maybe get close and whip around really fast and whap their opponents in the face with them! And they could be ensconced in heavy underwire or those Madonna cone things for added impact! *KATHWAP!* *shrug* I dunno!

And YES! Damn their stupid hair and makeup always being perfect or almost always, anyway! They at least do a pretty good job of making our guys look roughed up. The roughed up look doesn't last as long as it should, but at least it's there. We've seen both of them looking decidedly unpretty several times. If they'd have done the same with chick Winchesters, and otherwise made them more realistic than most fem heroes, it'd have had even more of a chance of getting me to like the show. Hell, there are ways to make an actress look rough and as though she's not wearing makeup or the makeup's messed up without actually letting the actress' real flaws show through! I'm no makeup artist and I feel confident even I could do that! Besides, if they got actresses as pretty as J2 are, there'd be no worries. In fact, I'm guessing at least some guys would find that hot! Hair all disheveled and what-not.

Again, I agree it could have worked IF the right writers/people were involved. But the question was, I believe, did we think it would have worked. (Either way, I've answered both questions.) I think the chances of the right people coming in and doing a seriously comparable version of what we've got would've been very slim, honestly, don't you?

Now then, I hope to see you on my book-signing tour when this little novel is published! I'll even personalize the auto for ya!

[candyrose]

Oh no. Cookie!

Okay, I just lost my entire post and now have to redo the entire thing.

Let me see if I understood you correctly. Are you saying that if a man and a woman were exactly the same--same size, same height, same weight, same amount of muscle mass, and same amount of strength--the man would still be able to withstand more physical trauma than the woman? I'm not entirely convinced if that theory because it really doesn't make sense if they are both physically equals.
In that scenario, the only real difference between the two would be their genders. It's like taking two, exactly the same, human forms and giving one a female reproductive system and the other a male. You can't say take two people of equal size and strength and say that one is stronger and can withstand more physical trauma than the other; it wouldn't be equal.
If you had said the average man is bigger and stronger than the average woman and then said in those circumstances the man would be able to withstand more, then I would be more inclined to believe. A 6 foot man, weighing 220 pounds is likely to be able to handle more than a 5 foot female, weighing 95 pounds. You even implied this yourself when addressing the female football player I mentioned earlier. Yes, you were correct to say she was bigger than most females because she actually was. She wasn't very tall, but she was rather husky. And, no, the other guys were not easy on her--they really couldn't be because she was always rather aggressive and quick to jump into the action.

Many people tend to view women as weak and fragile when that isn't always the case. Women are capable of withstand a lot of physical traumas and tolerating pain. I mean, look at childbirth: How many men do you know who could give birth and handle it as well as most women do?

From my own personal experiences and observations, I've seen that many men are often quick to complain about even the most insignificant pains, pains that most women would just deal with. Of course, this is only my observation and personal experience, so I can't generalize and apply it to the overall male population. I'm in no way saying that all men are whiners who have to be cuddled and tended to every time they get a small scratch or have a tiny pain. But...and I mean but...the men I've known have always whined and cried about every little pain they've experienced. Every time they get a small cut, they have to run to a female and have her clean him up. Every time they have a back ache or a stomach ache, they run to the nearest female, with their hand held out, wanting a pain pill. Again, this is only my personal experience, but you get the picture.

Ah, my ex is a prime example. When his back hurt, he had to have pills, a back rub, and icy hot applied to his back. When he cut himself or his skin was scraped, he'd run to me, wanting me to clean it up, put some ointment on it, and then apply a bandage to it. Then, to make matters even more incredibly annoying, he would later pull off the bandage and pick at his wound, whimpering and screaming "ouch" each time he did it. Then I'd have to clean it up and redo the whole thing again. My grandfather is the same way. Not too long ago he went out for awhile and stayed in the sun. He wasn't supposed to stay out for long because he was on medication. Anyway, he got sunburned, started complaining, and then, of all things, clawed at his face until it was full of sores. He complained and whined, asking why his face hurt so bad when it was obvious that it was because he was sunburned and had been clawing at his face. My grandmother, of course, had to take care of it. She had to put all the medicine on his face and clean it up for him. She also has to shave his beard, his hair, tend to every scrap and cut he gets, pop ever zit he has (no matter where it is), and inspect every sore spot he gets on his body. Seriously, I love him to death, but he won't even pluck his own nose hairs himself.

I know! I never quite understood the running in heels. I do have to add something, though: how many men do you know that could walk around in heels all day? I have a funny picture in my head now.

Boobs! God knows I am tired of looking at boobs--they're everywhere! I know women are obsessed with boobs because they think it will make men find them more attractive, but, seriously, some of these girls have boobs bigger than my head! I never quite understood how a really skinny person could go as far as some of these girlies go in the boob department. They end up walking around with boobs that are so huge that just one of their boobs is twice as wide as their entire body. When one of your boobs is wider than your hips, then there is seriously a problem.

I don't know if the fakers would make good weapons like you say. Fake boobs are lighter than real ones, and they are rather hard and immovable. They kind of just sit there like two lumpy rocks protruding from their bodies. Now maybe a pair of real, but enormous ones would make good weapons. Gawd, now I have this image of some woman swinging around one of her tits like a lasso and then smacking people with it. I knew this one girl....her boobs were rather large and were started much higher on her body than most women's do. Anyway, I swear to god she was jogging at the lake one day when one of her boobs smacked her in the face and gave her a black eye. I don't know exactly how it went down or how she managed to accomplish getting a black eye from one of her boobs; but, damn, that's an accomplishment.

Yes, the chances are slim, but it doesn't mean it isn't possible. I think if the right person got their hands on such a project, they could make it work. I would like to think there are enough people out there that appreciate a good story enough to make it a successful one. I would like to see a show with strong female characters, average female characters. I don't want to see beauty queens or wannabe porn stars. I don't think there are enough female role models today; there are not enough good example of women.

Here's a video I found. I wish it would have shown more, though.

http://video.msn.com/?mkt=en-au&brand=ninemsn&playlist=videoByUuids:uuids:e094b279-dcfa-4af8-bea8-f05ff82d0bf0&showPlaylist=true&from=articleinline&fg=healthportal^whatsgoodforyou^798263