'Supernatural' Episode 3.02 - Page 2

Guest · 10-10-2007, 06:19 PM

**Jon, Jon, Jon... oops! you did it again! Feeding in to that media frenzy of misinformation. Both Kripe and Singer have adamantly stated: NO LOVE INTERESTS. So why are you busy fanning the flame and riling up the fandom?**

----Maybe because he's got no reason to pretend he actually believes Kripke. Kripke and Co. are lying through their teeth, it's obvious why the girls were brought in. Yes I have read all the sides up to Episode 9 and if anything Episode 9 just proves they have turned this show into Charmed, except Dean's just some untalented hanger-on who gets to stand around being wowed and rescued by all the magical special supernatural people this season, showing how truly useless he is as anything but pretty filler who just happens to be played by one of the best actors on TV.---

** I mean, really, who're you gonna believe, this man or Eric Kripke**

---Me? I'm putting my money on Jon right now.

And I don't even like Jon that much. Sorry Jon, I do think you are

Guest · 10-10-2007, 06:21 PM

** I mean, really, who're you gonna believe, this man or Eric Kripke**

----Me? I'm putting my money on Jon right now.

And I don't even like Jon that much. Sorry Jon, I do think you are a bit of a rabble rouser but I still trust what you are saying more than I trust Kripke.

Kripke said they weren't going to be in every episode. So far the girls are in every single episode of the 9 released except possibly one and Singer confirmed in a recent interview one of them will be in almost every episode. Kripke said they will be nothing but trouble makers, yet Bela according to her actress makes a little trouble and then on the flip side tries to make it up to the boys. That hardly sounds like the hardened mercenary character they are claiming her to be if she cares so much about what the Winchesters' think of her that she ends up doing the right thing by them in the end all the time anyway. Not to mention the tragic background we're supposed to weep over to show she's really not

Guest · 10-10-2007, 07:54 PM

This season sounds like my worst nightmare for this show.

Kripke doesn't deserve my trust from everything I'm seeing. He's ruining everything that made this show special by adding these two Mary Sues. Love interest has nothing to do with it. Adding two characters like this that are infiltrating every part of the show is going to change the dynamic in ways that I don't want.

Guest · 10-10-2007, 07:58 PM

oh, btw, Kripke has repeatedly said the aren't being "introduced" as love interests but he left the door wide open for them to become so "if the chemistry is there". Again, the love interest thing was only a small part of my complaints about adding two characters like this. They don't have to be love interests to ruin the dynamic. And, yes, Robert Singer confirmed that these two will be in 12 episodes a piece, with a couple overlapping. So that means we are getting at least one in about every episode. That's way too much as far as I'm concerned.

Guest · 10-10-2007, 08:06 PM

For Christ's sake, thanks for stirring the pot when Ruby was received fairly well. They are NOT love interests. I've read spoilers up to episode nine. Ruby is so NOT a love interest what you're doing is plain dumb. You're stirring up the incessant whining amongst the pathologically protective fangirls again. The dirty girls are going to steal Deany poo's screentime. I'm so sick of hearing that crap.

Thanks for being a jerk.

Guest · 10-10-2007, 08:40 PM

lol. There have been plenty of complaints about Ruby and Bela from people who aren't jealous fangirls. That's a nice easy way to write people off but it doesn't apply to most of the people I know that don't like the direction the show is taking.

Guest · 10-10-2007, 08:51 PM

It applies to the ones I know. They go so far as to count pictures in spoiler stills from future eps. Oh my God, Ruby's in two pictures and Dean's only in one and oh...that means Dean is useless because of Ruby. They're paranoid. Like TPTB are out to get their Deanie snookums and render him unimportant in the show. Fictional Dean is a woobie they have to safeguard. If the two new characters who were going to be in 12 episodes were anything other than two attractive 20 something females you wouldn't hear a PEEP out of these people.

Guest · 10-10-2007, 09:15 PM

Maybe for some but not for all. Not for most, I'd even hazard to say. It's not the gender (well, it can be in regards to how characters such as theirs tend to be written on shows like this. Meaning, as annoying Mary Sues and Ruby's already off to that start). It's the fact that two other characters other than Sam and Dean are infiltrating the show to the point where it's looking more like an ensemble, with two new co-leads that will carry their own storylines and tragic backstory and less like the Supernatural we know and love. Which is centered around the Winchesters. I mean, I love Bobby but I don't want to see him in 12 episodes either. I only care about other characters in how they relate to Sam and Dean and how they play off of Sam and Dean. I don't want them to get their own subplots and scenes apart from Sam and Dean. I don't want to see other hunters kicking ass and having face-offs with other characters that the Winchesters should be having the face offs with. Sam and D

Guest · 10-10-2007, 09:18 PM

oops, got cut off. To finish out my thoughts:

I don't want to see other hunters kicking ass and having face-offs with other characters that the Winchesters should be having the face offs with. Sam and Dean are Supernatural. They're the ones that should be doing the ass kicking. These new so-called antagonists should be facing off with Sam and Dean and only Sam and Dean. They're the good guys. They're who I care about. You water that down too much and you lose what makes this show special. That's what people are against. That's what I'm against.

Guest · 10-10-2007, 09:29 PM

That's a well reasoned argument, but I'm going to have to respectfully disagree. I hear what you're saying, but other hunters having some succees doesn't dilute Supernatural for me. There's no hard fast rule for me that says it has to be Sam and Dean doing the ass kicking and only Sam and Dean. There were other people kicking ass on Buffy and Angel and other such programs. Why must Sam and Dean do it alone? For me, it doesn't take away a thing because I know that Jared and Jensen can't keep up the 15 hour a day pace. They would have burned out, so I'm willing to get to know new charcters. I'd love to see Bobby in 12 episodes. That doesn't change the incredible bond between these brothers. From my perspective, shaking things up keeps Supernatural from becoming a Reaper. Already, after 3 episodes, you can tell that Reaper's going to be the same thing with tiny little variations over and over and over and over...it's practically DOA. That's why I'm more than willing to accept new

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10-10-2007, 06:19 PM	#11
Guest Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 0	Jon, Jon, Jon... oops! you did it again! Feeding in to that media frenzy of misinformation. Both Kripe and Singer have adamantly stated: NO LOVE INTERESTS. So why are you busy fanning the flame and riling up the fandom? ----Maybe because he's got no reason to pretend he actually believes Kripke. Kripke and Co. are lying through their teeth, it's obvious why the girls were brought in. Yes I have read all the sides up to Episode 9 and if anything Episode 9 just proves they have turned this show into Charmed, except Dean's just some untalented hanger-on who gets to stand around being wowed and rescued by all the magical special supernatural people this season, showing how truly useless he is as anything but pretty filler who just happens to be played by one of the best actors on TV.--- I mean, really, who're you gonna believe, this man or Eric Kripke ---Me? I'm putting my money on Jon right now. And I don't even like Jon that much. Sorry Jon, I do think you are

10-10-2007, 06:21 PM	#12
Guest Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 0	I mean, really, who're you gonna believe, this man or Eric Kripke ----Me? I'm putting my money on Jon right now. And I don't even like Jon that much. Sorry Jon, I do think you are a bit of a rabble rouser but I still trust what you are saying more than I trust Kripke. Kripke said they weren't going to be in every episode. So far the girls are in every single episode of the 9 released except possibly one and Singer confirmed in a recent interview one of them will be in almost every episode. Kripke said they will be nothing but trouble makers, yet Bela according to her actress makes a little trouble and then on the flip side tries to make it up to the boys. That hardly sounds like the hardened mercenary character they are claiming her to be if she cares so much about what the Winchesters' think of her that she ends up doing the right thing by them in the end all the time anyway. Not to mention the tragic background we're supposed to weep over to show she's really not

10-10-2007, 07:54 PM	#13
Guest Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 0	This season sounds like my worst nightmare for this show. Kripke doesn't deserve my trust from everything I'm seeing. He's ruining everything that made this show special by adding these two Mary Sues. Love interest has nothing to do with it. Adding two characters like this that are infiltrating every part of the show is going to change the dynamic in ways that I don't want.

10-10-2007, 07:58 PM	#14
Guest Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 0	oh, btw, Kripke has repeatedly said the aren't being "introduced" as love interests but he left the door wide open for them to become so "if the chemistry is there". Again, the love interest thing was only a small part of my complaints about adding two characters like this. They don't have to be love interests to ruin the dynamic. And, yes, Robert Singer confirmed that these two will be in 12 episodes a piece, with a couple overlapping. So that means we are getting at least one in about every episode. That's way too much as far as I'm concerned.

10-10-2007, 08:06 PM	#15
Guest Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 0	For Christ's sake, thanks for stirring the pot when Ruby was received fairly well. They are NOT love interests. I've read spoilers up to episode nine. Ruby is so NOT a love interest what you're doing is plain dumb. You're stirring up the incessant whining amongst the pathologically protective fangirls again. The dirty girls are going to steal Deany poo's screentime. I'm so sick of hearing that crap. Thanks for being a jerk.

10-10-2007, 08:40 PM	#16
Guest Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 0	lol. There have been plenty of complaints about Ruby and Bela from people who aren't jealous fangirls. That's a nice easy way to write people off but it doesn't apply to most of the people I know that don't like the direction the show is taking.

10-10-2007, 08:51 PM	#17
Guest Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 0	It applies to the ones I know. They go so far as to count pictures in spoiler stills from future eps. Oh my God, Ruby's in two pictures and Dean's only in one and oh...that means Dean is useless because of Ruby. They're paranoid. Like TPTB are out to get their Deanie snookums and render him unimportant in the show. Fictional Dean is a woobie they have to safeguard. If the two new characters who were going to be in 12 episodes were anything other than two attractive 20 something females you wouldn't hear a PEEP out of these people.

10-10-2007, 09:15 PM	#18
Guest Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 0	Maybe for some but not for all. Not for most, I'd even hazard to say. It's not the gender (well, it can be in regards to how characters such as theirs tend to be written on shows like this. Meaning, as annoying Mary Sues and Ruby's already off to that start). It's the fact that two other characters other than Sam and Dean are infiltrating the show to the point where it's looking more like an ensemble, with two new co-leads that will carry their own storylines and tragic backstory and less like the Supernatural we know and love. Which is centered around the Winchesters. I mean, I love Bobby but I don't want to see him in 12 episodes either. I only care about other characters in how they relate to Sam and Dean and how they play off of Sam and Dean. I don't want them to get their own subplots and scenes apart from Sam and Dean. I don't want to see other hunters kicking ass and having face-offs with other characters that the Winchesters should be having the face offs with. Sam and D

10-10-2007, 09:18 PM	#19
Guest Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 0	oops, got cut off. To finish out my thoughts: I don't want to see other hunters kicking ass and having face-offs with other characters that the Winchesters should be having the face offs with. Sam and Dean are Supernatural. They're the ones that should be doing the ass kicking. These new so-called antagonists should be facing off with Sam and Dean and only Sam and Dean. They're the good guys. They're who I care about. You water that down too much and you lose what makes this show special. That's what people are against. That's what I'm against.

10-10-2007, 09:29 PM	#20
Guest Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 0	That's a well reasoned argument, but I'm going to have to respectfully disagree. I hear what you're saying, but other hunters having some succees doesn't dilute Supernatural for me. There's no hard fast rule for me that says it has to be Sam and Dean doing the ass kicking and only Sam and Dean. There were other people kicking ass on Buffy and Angel and other such programs. Why must Sam and Dean do it alone? For me, it doesn't take away a thing because I know that Jared and Jensen can't keep up the 15 hour a day pace. They would have burned out, so I'm willing to get to know new charcters. I'd love to see Bobby in 12 episodes. That doesn't change the incredible bond between these brothers. From my perspective, shaking things up keeps Supernatural from becoming a Reaper. Already, after 3 episodes, you can tell that Reaper's going to be the same thing with tiny little variations over and over and over and over...it's practically DOA. That's why I'm more than willing to accept new