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CanIHaveThisDance · 02-06-2008, 04:02 PM

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mxlpdilk · 02-07-2008, 08:55 AM

"I think Clark loves his "ideal image" of Lana, and Lana loves the idea of "a Clark that worships her"." ------ Cecil I think you are on to a very profound insight here. In fact I think these things operate in every romantic relationship. You feel a very strong attraction and you tend to explain it to yourself as due to the perfection of the person you love, so you construct an ideal image of that perfection. And you feel most satisfied with that relationship when you are convinced that perfect person loves you so much that he or she spends every moment thinking of you. Clark was trying to assure Lana of that when he fed her champagne and truffles then took her horseback riding and let her beat him in a race back to the farmhouse. She kissed him then and he told her that one kiss repaid all the effort he had ever gone through for her. And she loved it! But they both know Clark's dedication to her is not as absolute as Bizarro's was. I think Lana showed a very high degree of

mxlpdilk · 02-07-2008, 08:58 AM

self awareness when she acknowledged that and still chose Clark over Bizarro, and I think it showed a deeper kind of love than romantic attraction, just as she showed a deeper kind of love when she warned Clark his image of her was idealized. Alacia wrote "She recognizes that she loves the evil one, but in her fight to choose goodness, she realizes she has to kill the evilness. Even if that's the one she loves." Perhaps we are saying the same thing. What do you think?

LanaLover · 02-07-2008, 06:29 PM

O my god clark is really giving lana hell man i would be mad too to know my love slept with some one i hate, but i would get over it I love you lana. A.K.A KK

LanaLover · 02-07-2008, 06:49 PM

O MY GOD THAT WAS THE COOLEST FIGHT I EVER SAW ON SMALLVILLE. CLARK IS THE MAN HE IS TOO FAST FOR HIS OWN GOOD.

alacia88 · 02-08-2008, 12:11 AM

I am SOO Glad they didn't just drop the Clana tension from the last episode - and even delved deeper into it!! Awesome. (Not like in season 2 when he's on redK, Lana gets mad at him, and next episode they're friends again.) AND CLARK HIMSELF BROUGHT UP THAT LANA FELL IN LOVE WITH LEX AND A PHANTOM!!!! LOL!!!!! And again he SLAMS her for only coming clean when she's being blackmailed! Wow. Go Clark. (Hope those of you who believe Lana never gets blamed for the things she does, are satisfied after this ep...*wink*) I think things are getting shaken up- even tho Clark made an attempt at mending things at the end, his words were something along the lines of hoping to "Trust" one another again, not "Love" one another again.

mxlpdilk · 02-08-2008, 08:24 AM

Cecil, Alacia, some of you other thoughtful posters and readers, I hope you can help me understand this latest episode. I'm still sorting it out but I feel totally disappointed in Smallville and I am afraid the magic of their story is gone for me. It seems to me they took a beautiful simple myth about the saving power of moral strength and turned it into a murky postmodern mess in which nothing and no one can be trusted. I can't imagine DC Comics is OK with this. I haven't read a lot of Superman comics but isn't Clark supposed to be an eager, innocent would-be champion of truth and justice when he moves to Metropolis, instead of a jaded world-weary loser whose hopes and dreams of moral purity have been trampled by bitter experience?

cholerocks · 02-08-2008, 11:51 PM

hay iam new i am a huge chole fan and iam a firend of chriselizie i love when clark told lana off so good she deserveed all of it tata for now

alacia88 · 02-09-2008, 11:24 AM

Well, Mxlpdilk, I'm not sure I entirely understand where you're coming from. I will admit that I've never read the comics, so I don't know about Clark coming to Metropolis all eager, innocent, etc. My impressions of superman have never included him being eager and innocent. The whole Clark Kent reporter for the DP always just seemed like a cover, where he intentionally acted goofy & klutzy to throw people off suspecting him as Superman. But I always thought that superman was very wise and knowledgeable about the world, not just some eager innocent young journalist ready to make his mark on the world. Anything in that realm always seemed like a front to cover up his superhuman presence. I think Gough & Millar are still just intending to show Clark's journey - and we've seen, IMO, a big change in his perspective, moving in that direction, these last two seasons. His perception of the things that go on around him I think have changed, and obviously his relationships. He doesn't take peopl

alacia88 · 02-09-2008, 11:25 AM

people for granted as much (I think due to Jonathan's death and also almost losing Chloe and Lana); he is much more active in saving people/the world, not just fam&friends or those around Smallville; but he still has a long way to go until he reaches that point of being this steadfast superhero, fighting for truth and justice. I think two major things need to happen for Clark to have everything he needs to move past his current state and into Superman-hood : 1) I think he and Lana need to tie things off. Whether it's mutual or Clark just realizing she's not right for him. But I don't think he'll ever get to where he needs to be with Lana. 2) I believe the training that Jor-El has been telling him to do since, what 3rd or 4th season??, needs to be completed and Jor-El's presence at the fortress wiped out. It's just my opinion, but I think there actually IS something in the training that will give him a greater Kryptonian perspective on saving the human race.

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02-06-2008, 04:02 PM	#2211
CanIHaveThisDance Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 166	hey tom welling fans, come to my profile adn vote on my showdown that i made called pics of tom welling

02-07-2008, 08:55 AM	#2212
mxlpdilk Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 197	"I think Clark loves his "ideal image" of Lana, and Lana loves the idea of "a Clark that worships her"." ------ Cecil I think you are on to a very profound insight here. In fact I think these things operate in every romantic relationship. You feel a very strong attraction and you tend to explain it to yourself as due to the perfection of the person you love, so you construct an ideal image of that perfection. And you feel most satisfied with that relationship when you are convinced that perfect person loves you so much that he or she spends every moment thinking of you. Clark was trying to assure Lana of that when he fed her champagne and truffles then took her horseback riding and let her beat him in a race back to the farmhouse. She kissed him then and he told her that one kiss repaid all the effort he had ever gone through for her. And she loved it! But they both know Clark's dedication to her is not as absolute as Bizarro's was. I think Lana showed a very high degree of

02-07-2008, 08:58 AM	#2213
mxlpdilk Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 197	self awareness when she acknowledged that and still chose Clark over Bizarro, and I think it showed a deeper kind of love than romantic attraction, just as she showed a deeper kind of love when she warned Clark his image of her was idealized. Alacia wrote "She recognizes that she loves the evil one, but in her fight to choose goodness, she realizes she has to kill the evilness. Even if that's the one she loves." Perhaps we are saying the same thing. What do you think?

02-07-2008, 06:29 PM	#2214
LanaLover Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 62	O my god clark is really giving lana hell man i would be mad too to know my love slept with some one i hate, but i would get over it I love you lana. A.K.A KK

02-07-2008, 06:49 PM	#2215
LanaLover Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 62	O MY GOD THAT WAS THE COOLEST FIGHT I EVER SAW ON SMALLVILLE. CLARK IS THE MAN HE IS TOO FAST FOR HIS OWN GOOD.

02-08-2008, 12:11 AM	#2216
alacia88 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 153	I am SOO Glad they didn't just drop the Clana tension from the last episode - and even delved deeper into it!! Awesome. (Not like in season 2 when he's on redK, Lana gets mad at him, and next episode they're friends again.) AND CLARK HIMSELF BROUGHT UP THAT LANA FELL IN LOVE WITH LEX AND A PHANTOM!!!! LOL!!!!! And again he SLAMS her for only coming clean when she's being blackmailed! Wow. Go Clark. (Hope those of you who believe Lana never gets blamed for the things she does, are satisfied after this ep...wink) I think things are getting shaken up- even tho Clark made an attempt at mending things at the end, his words were something along the lines of hoping to "Trust" one another again, not "Love" one another again.

02-08-2008, 08:24 AM	#2217
mxlpdilk Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 197	Cecil, Alacia, some of you other thoughtful posters and readers, I hope you can help me understand this latest episode. I'm still sorting it out but I feel totally disappointed in Smallville and I am afraid the magic of their story is gone for me. It seems to me they took a beautiful simple myth about the saving power of moral strength and turned it into a murky postmodern mess in which nothing and no one can be trusted. I can't imagine DC Comics is OK with this. I haven't read a lot of Superman comics but isn't Clark supposed to be an eager, innocent would-be champion of truth and justice when he moves to Metropolis, instead of a jaded world-weary loser whose hopes and dreams of moral purity have been trampled by bitter experience?

02-08-2008, 11:51 PM	#2218
cholerocks Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 13	hay iam new i am a huge chole fan and iam a firend of chriselizie i love when clark told lana off so good she deserveed all of it tata for now

02-09-2008, 11:24 AM	#2219
alacia88 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 153	Well, Mxlpdilk, I'm not sure I entirely understand where you're coming from. I will admit that I've never read the comics, so I don't know about Clark coming to Metropolis all eager, innocent, etc. My impressions of superman have never included him being eager and innocent. The whole Clark Kent reporter for the DP always just seemed like a cover, where he intentionally acted goofy & klutzy to throw people off suspecting him as Superman. But I always thought that superman was very wise and knowledgeable about the world, not just some eager innocent young journalist ready to make his mark on the world. Anything in that realm always seemed like a front to cover up his superhuman presence. I think Gough & Millar are still just intending to show Clark's journey - and we've seen, IMO, a big change in his perspective, moving in that direction, these last two seasons. His perception of the things that go on around him I think have changed, and obviously his relationships. He doesn't take peopl

02-09-2008, 11:25 AM	#2220
alacia88 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 153	people for granted as much (I think due to Jonathan's death and also almost losing Chloe and Lana); he is much more active in saving people/the world, not just fam&friends or those around Smallville; but he still has a long way to go until he reaches that point of being this steadfast superhero, fighting for truth and justice. I think two major things need to happen for Clark to have everything he needs to move past his current state and into Superman-hood : 1) I think he and Lana need to tie things off. Whether it's mutual or Clark just realizing she's not right for him. But I don't think he'll ever get to where he needs to be with Lana. 2) I believe the training that Jor-El has been telling him to do since, what 3rd or 4th season??, needs to be completed and Jor-El's presence at the fortress wiped out. It's just my opinion, but I think there actually IS something in the training that will give him a greater Kryptonian perspective on saving the human race.