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cecil44 · 01-15-2008, 10:41 PM

we have countless of people who meet Lana once and immediately start singing praises-- the sorority girl for example says "Lana you are awesome"! Basically if she has a meteor power that makes everyone love her, want to praise her etc, then I would excuse the bad writing. Clark is immune to most meteor infections true, but Clark has been in love with Lana since he was 5, and I can accept the explanation that he's been in love with the image of Lana that he has created and not with the real Lana. No one has been in love with the real Lana IMO.

alacia88 · 01-16-2008, 10:01 AM

I think Lex has been in love with the real Lana. As they were developing the relationship between Lana and Lex, he would say over and over how they are one in the same or something like that. They've both had experiences that have made them into the people they are, and only Lana is not seen for her true dark side. Just Lex. But I agree that Clark (and everyone else) has not. Chloe is beginning to see it.

alacia88 · 01-16-2008, 10:02 AM

One of the things I do find interesting, though, about Lana's character is how everyone interacts with her. In that "Accelerate" episode with Emily, Clark finds Emily's necklace which Lana explains as: "Her father gave it to her 'cause she wanted a necklace like mine." Then there's Tina Greer who actually wanted Lana's life, thinking her life was perfect. (Although when she comes back as Whitney, that would add to the theory of Lana having power to make people love and want to be with her - even Tina!) And the guy in season 4 who froze everybody to keep them in HS, said something along the lines of Lana being perfect. And all the others you named Cecil. I just find it interesting that everybody seems to all worship Lana, and this girl's life has been nothing but tragic. It seems like we, as the audience, are told over and over that Lana is to be coveted, either for her things, her looks, or her life. I'm thinking her character is based off of the HS stereotype of the pretty popular g

alacia88 · 01-16-2008, 10:03 AM

pretty popular girl that everyone wants to be, and that from season 1 she has been trying to break out of that. They always are having her say she's trying to break out of the picture everyone has of her, as the little girl in the fairy princess costume who lost her parents. But I think it's more than that. It's interesting that she started the series out as a Freshman on the cheerleading squad, with the Senior football player boyfriend, and all seems happy hunkey dory in her life. But she slowly starts breaking out of that..... listening to her mom's graduation speech which was banned (for something like being too controversial), quitting the squad, making new friends (with Clark, Chloe & Pete) who were not the so called popular crowd - essentially she tried to break out of the stereotype by stripping away the things that make up that. But she could never get rid of it completely. People's opinion & perception of her was already set in stone.

alacia88 · 01-16-2008, 10:06 AM

I'm curious, Cecill...... what makes you say "Pete was the only one who saw Lana for who she is"?

cecil44 · 01-16-2008, 12:19 PM

Alacia88, I agree, people's perception of Lana is totally different from who Lana really is... and to an extent, I agree that Lex was in love with the real Lana-- but only at the beginning, which is why I think that the longer you stay close to her, the stronger her power gets and the worse the Lana-obsession becomes. Lex loved the Real Lana at the beginning. In fact, Lex still had his balls when they started their relationship. He would tell it as it was, including telling her that she had to deal with cameras and so on when she said either the camera goes or she goes. Basically he didn't give in to her demands and so on, but then later on somewhere along the line, Lana steals his... well, and he's downhill from there. She practically tells him that she still loves Clark but will accept his engagement because she realized money equaled power and so on and he is soo happy about it!

cecil44 · 01-16-2008, 12:19 PM

The real Lex would never have accepted to be the second best. And we know that Lex can have almost any girl he wants (except Chloe and maybe Lois), but he has been shown to date women even more beautiful than Lana (Helen, Victoria, Desiree, etc..), so it is not that Lana is the most beautiful thing he's ever seen. Lex is a billionaire, and would definitely have women (even gold-diggers) falling to his lap, so I refuse to believe that he was in his right mind and not under some influence to take the crap that Lana gave him. That said, I think that Lana has the power to influence people's perception after a while and the longer they stay close to her. Chloe's worship of Lana started when Lana moved in with her and her dad, Clark has always lived close to Lana, Tina and Emily were Lana's friends (so always close to her) and so on... The other's who instantly fall down on their knees and start worshipping Lana and kissing her feet? It's just wierd-- either terrible writing, or some power?

cecil44 · 01-16-2008, 12:41 PM

PETE: Ok, the reason I said this is because in early seasons, Lana was not so blatantly dark. She was still this "sweet" kinda girl and was actually putting a lot of effort in helping out in blood-drives and so on. Clark still worshipped her, Chloe was still pining after Clark, and the Kents (Johnathan and Martha) worshipped Lana too. But Pete though that Clark had the "Lana blinders" (his words exactly were: "Maybe if you took of your Lana blinders..." which to me suggests that Pete realizes that the Lana that Clark sees is not the real Lana. Unfortunately they wrote Pete out a bit too soon but I almost believe that if Pete has stayed in Smallville Clark's Lana blinders would be gone by now-- especially if Pete was around in season six where Clark was clearly jealous of Jimmy. The problem with Clark right now is that he can't seem to get past his Lana blinders.

cecil44 · 01-16-2008, 12:41 PM

Lucky for us, Pete will be back in hero, and hopefully we will get some insight and see his perspective on how things have gone so far! (although I'm dreading that they just do a Pete character assassination like always). Hmmm, now I miss Pete!

mxlpdilk · 01-16-2008, 01:00 PM

If my theory of Lana's meteor rock power is correct it doesn't make her character any more good or evil, and it doesn't make it any more consistent or coherent. It just attempts to explain why everyone loves Lana and always wants to protect her. Alacia, I recently mentioned those same two scenes where Lana told Clark he was projecting an ideal image onto her. I think they are important but I interpret them differently. I will say my immediate reaction to your suggestion that we have been seeing Lana through Clark's eyes was positive. It's a clever interpretation and it would have been a clever plot twist too. But the important point for me is that her warning him about it from the beginning showed real integrity, insight, and strength of character. So I'm not giving up on my original view of Lana as a good person suitable as a soulmate for Clark. If her power made others love and protect her but she did not use it to do harm then the "real Lana" was a good person. That's the w

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01-15-2008, 10:41 PM	#1931
cecil44 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 788	we have countless of people who meet Lana once and immediately start singing praises-- the sorority girl for example says "Lana you are awesome"! Basically if she has a meteor power that makes everyone love her, want to praise her etc, then I would excuse the bad writing. Clark is immune to most meteor infections true, but Clark has been in love with Lana since he was 5, and I can accept the explanation that he's been in love with the image of Lana that he has created and not with the real Lana. No one has been in love with the real Lana IMO.

01-16-2008, 10:01 AM	#1932
alacia88 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 153	I think Lex has been in love with the real Lana. As they were developing the relationship between Lana and Lex, he would say over and over how they are one in the same or something like that. They've both had experiences that have made them into the people they are, and only Lana is not seen for her true dark side. Just Lex. But I agree that Clark (and everyone else) has not. Chloe is beginning to see it.

01-16-2008, 10:02 AM	#1933
alacia88 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 153	One of the things I do find interesting, though, about Lana's character is how everyone interacts with her. In that "Accelerate" episode with Emily, Clark finds Emily's necklace which Lana explains as: "Her father gave it to her 'cause she wanted a necklace like mine." Then there's Tina Greer who actually wanted Lana's life, thinking her life was perfect. (Although when she comes back as Whitney, that would add to the theory of Lana having power to make people love and want to be with her - even Tina!) And the guy in season 4 who froze everybody to keep them in HS, said something along the lines of Lana being perfect. And all the others you named Cecil. I just find it interesting that everybody seems to all worship Lana, and this girl's life has been nothing but tragic. It seems like we, as the audience, are told over and over that Lana is to be coveted, either for her things, her looks, or her life. I'm thinking her character is based off of the HS stereotype of the pretty popular g

01-16-2008, 10:03 AM	#1934
alacia88 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 153	pretty popular girl that everyone wants to be, and that from season 1 she has been trying to break out of that. They always are having her say she's trying to break out of the picture everyone has of her, as the little girl in the fairy princess costume who lost her parents. But I think it's more than that. It's interesting that she started the series out as a Freshman on the cheerleading squad, with the Senior football player boyfriend, and all seems happy hunkey dory in her life. But she slowly starts breaking out of that..... listening to her mom's graduation speech which was banned (for something like being too controversial), quitting the squad, making new friends (with Clark, Chloe & Pete) who were not the so called popular crowd - essentially she tried to break out of the stereotype by stripping away the things that make up that. But she could never get rid of it completely. People's opinion & perception of her was already set in stone.

01-16-2008, 10:06 AM	#1935
alacia88 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 153	I'm curious, Cecill...... what makes you say "Pete was the only one who saw Lana for who she is"?

01-16-2008, 12:19 PM	#1936
cecil44 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 788	Alacia88, I agree, people's perception of Lana is totally different from who Lana really is... and to an extent, I agree that Lex was in love with the real Lana-- but only at the beginning, which is why I think that the longer you stay close to her, the stronger her power gets and the worse the Lana-obsession becomes. Lex loved the Real Lana at the beginning. In fact, Lex still had his balls when they started their relationship. He would tell it as it was, including telling her that she had to deal with cameras and so on when she said either the camera goes or she goes. Basically he didn't give in to her demands and so on, but then later on somewhere along the line, Lana steals his... well, and he's downhill from there. She practically tells him that she still loves Clark but will accept his engagement because she realized money equaled power and so on and he is soo happy about it!

01-16-2008, 12:19 PM	#1937
cecil44 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 788	The real Lex would never have accepted to be the second best. And we know that Lex can have almost any girl he wants (except Chloe and maybe Lois), but he has been shown to date women even more beautiful than Lana (Helen, Victoria, Desiree, etc..), so it is not that Lana is the most beautiful thing he's ever seen. Lex is a billionaire, and would definitely have women (even gold-diggers) falling to his lap, so I refuse to believe that he was in his right mind and not under some influence to take the crap that Lana gave him. That said, I think that Lana has the power to influence people's perception after a while and the longer they stay close to her. Chloe's worship of Lana started when Lana moved in with her and her dad, Clark has always lived close to Lana, Tina and Emily were Lana's friends (so always close to her) and so on... The other's who instantly fall down on their knees and start worshipping Lana and kissing her feet? It's just wierd-- either terrible writing, or some power?

01-16-2008, 12:41 PM	#1938
cecil44 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 788	PETE: Ok, the reason I said this is because in early seasons, Lana was not so blatantly dark. She was still this "sweet" kinda girl and was actually putting a lot of effort in helping out in blood-drives and so on. Clark still worshipped her, Chloe was still pining after Clark, and the Kents (Johnathan and Martha) worshipped Lana too. But Pete though that Clark had the "Lana blinders" (his words exactly were: "Maybe if you took of your Lana blinders..." which to me suggests that Pete realizes that the Lana that Clark sees is not the real Lana. Unfortunately they wrote Pete out a bit too soon but I almost believe that if Pete has stayed in Smallville Clark's Lana blinders would be gone by now-- especially if Pete was around in season six where Clark was clearly jealous of Jimmy. The problem with Clark right now is that he can't seem to get past his Lana blinders.

01-16-2008, 12:41 PM	#1939
cecil44 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 788	Lucky for us, Pete will be back in hero, and hopefully we will get some insight and see his perspective on how things have gone so far! (although I'm dreading that they just do a Pete character assassination like always). Hmmm, now I miss Pete!

01-16-2008, 01:00 PM	#1940
mxlpdilk Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 197	If my theory of Lana's meteor rock power is correct it doesn't make her character any more good or evil, and it doesn't make it any more consistent or coherent. It just attempts to explain why everyone loves Lana and always wants to protect her. Alacia, I recently mentioned those same two scenes where Lana told Clark he was projecting an ideal image onto her. I think they are important but I interpret them differently. I will say my immediate reaction to your suggestion that we have been seeing Lana through Clark's eyes was positive. It's a clever interpretation and it would have been a clever plot twist too. But the important point for me is that her warning him about it from the beginning showed real integrity, insight, and strength of character. So I'm not giving up on my original view of Lana as a good person suitable as a soulmate for Clark. If her power made others love and protect her but she did not use it to do harm then the "real Lana" was a good person. That's the w