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Old 10-31-2006, 02:30 AM   #1
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After seing episode 209, I am now definitely conviced that Mahone is not evil, and I think the line "sometimes things happen that are out of control" suits him perfectly. Mahone is a victim of what is happening to him, and he totally is a victim of himself.

What I really liked in last episode, was when Scofield called Mahone. The first thing he says when he realises who is on the phone is " If you hurt Pam or my boy, you're a dead man "(or something along those lines). He cares. He still oves his wife. The guy is protecting his family. He did not just throw Pam out of the house because he lost it. he did it to protect her from him, for his doings. He wants her to stay away from all the mess. But I am not totally sure that the company knows about the body. Otherwise, he would have already moved the body.

Oh, and he has a KID! was I the only one to go O_______O on this one? XD

Anyway, I also realised that he indeed doesn't know that Scofield isn't a bad man. For him, Scofield is a criminal like any other, because he immediately thinks that Scofield could have hurt his wife and son. But we all know Scofield wouldn't be able to hurt a fly! Even if he does work for the company, he doesn't know everything that's going on. I think he'll figure that out sometime, and it will give him a chance to redeem himself.

I also found interesting how Scofield uinderstands Mahone's psyché. He knows exactly how things work in his brain. Just like Mahone knows Michael like nobody else does. I hope they will continue to bring that Nemesis thing up, because it is so interesting! Good twin, bad twin...
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good twin bad twin?!?

...and wich one is good/bad?!
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Old 10-31-2006, 02:40 AM   #3
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Michael is the good twin for sure!

Anyway, I just hope hope hope for Mahone that the phone call wasn't taped by the company, because he will be in deep sh*t if it is... The company will know for Shales, if they don't already... Youch!!!
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Ok ...really i can't read anymore. I like Mahone but you are trying to make him out to be something he isn't. To say he is a victim is a really far stretch..he has killed 2 people already that we know of and who's to say there aren't more bodies in his closet that we don't know about? That doesn't sound much like a victim to me.

Yes to him Scofield is just another criminal but who is he to judge. He is just as bad as any of them in my opinion ..why is it that the line "sometimes things happen that are out of control" only seems to apply to him ..everyone else is just a murderer,rapist ,escapee ect. but for some reason that doesn't apply to him .
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Well, I don't think this "Mahone is a victim" theory is that far fetched. Okay, he snapped and killed Shales. Period. He's not completely normal, we all know that. BUT he killed Tweener because he was forced to kill him for whatever reason (I still think he is blackmailed, but I've been wrong before ). I'm sure Mahone wouldn’t have hurt him under different circumstances. So yeah, in this case, Mahone can be considered a victim of circumstances.

And does he REALLY judge anybody? I'm really asking because I can't remember any particular scene or sentence that would suggest this. Maybe because I'm pretty exhausted from carving tons of Jack O'Lanterns
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If he wouldn't have killed Shales there would have been nothing (that we know of ) to blackamail with ..so yeah victim is a stretch. He made his choice when he put that gun to Shale's head and pulled the trigger so he should be preapared to deal with the consequences of those actions.

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Anyway, I also realised that he indeed doesn't know that Scofield isn't a bad man. For him, Scofield is a criminal like any other, because he immediately thinks that Scofield could have hurt his wife and son. But we all know Scofield wouldn't be able to hurt a fly! Even if he does work for the company, he doesn't know everything that's going on. I think he'll figure that out sometime, and it will give him a chance to redeem himself.
My who is he to judge is in response to this portion of the post. I don't know if he has ever outright said it in an episode but from the beginning it has been implied that he looks at all criminals the same way. It's all black and white there is no grey .

To say he is a prisioner of what is happening i might agree but not a victim .
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i would kind of put him in the catagory with the President's brother. like diva said he is a prisoner not a victim. they are trying to save themselves.
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i also have to agree with the prisoner not victim...
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I have to say you must be taking the same pills he is. A victim? uh WRONG. he burried oscar shales in the backyard his KID played in! (oh and by the way having a kid doesn't mean you aren't evil, it means your little guys can swim ) he doused the gound with lye to disolve the body!

Seriously the Company is blackmailing him and you can only be blackmailed if you have a dirty past .

What show are you watching though? It must not be PB.
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Yeah, Mahone is not innocent. And like I said before, he’s not completely normal either. He killed a man and that’s not cool. I know it, you know it and I’m sure he knows it too. But as it was mentioned many times before, I’m sure he didn’t know what he was doing (or that what he was doing was wrong) when he pulled the trigger. Why? Because he went completely crazy. He said that period of his life was a “complete break from reality.” Therefore he couldn’t really foresee the consequences or tell the difference between right and wrong. That’s why the insanity defense, for example, is still in use today.

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Seriously the Company is blackmailing him and you can only be blackmailed if you have a dirty past
If he hadn't killed Shales, the Company couldn't have forced him into doing things? Come on, guys, what show are you watching? There are his wife and his son - perfect targets. The Company would have used them.

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he burried oscar shales in the backyard his KID played in!
He buried Shales in the backyard, true. But he didn't let his son play there after “the burial.” Moreover, he didn't want his family to be anywhere near him or that place anymore. I though it was pretty clear.

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they are trying to save themselves.
Okay. I agree. But everybody's doing that. Michael and Lincoln are doing the exact same thing. Saving themselves. And how many people died or nearly died because of that? Okay, Mike knows it’s wrong and feels bad about it, sure. So does Mahone. That’s why he’s getting nuttier.

And that “Scofield is like any other criminal” stuff didn’t come from Mahone. He never said that. He considers Mike a criminal, it’s true. But that’s not judging Michael. It’s just a fact. Because Mahone doesn’t know he’s innocent. Not yet.

Bottom line: Mahone is not an evil person. IMHO. He made a mistake a few years ago and he's still paying for it. I think his punishment is worse than any prison in the US could offer. And right now things are pretty much beyond his control.
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