The End for Michael (MAJOR SPOILER)

[DramaDiva]

Originally Posted by Protagonist

Think about it for a sec. As long as The Man was telling people this through PMs, eventually it would leak out. No one could avoid that, that is how we work.

Maybe we should blame The Man for doing this in the first place, he's privileged for having this information, but he's playing with our curious sense in a way that leads to nothing but destruction??

Or the most reasonable, maybe just blame ourselves for being this curious. No one had to read anything about this!

Anyways, I'm playing with the thought of making a stand for this through some petitions. It sure as hell ain't the most important problem in the verb, but the vibe is all wrong. And as an audience, we CAN! We can affect this, there is no doubt about that, just take a look at TV-history, or even parts of PB itself with Sara's "death"

As long as this is true.. that part remains unspoken as for now.

Maybe you should think about working differently ..It's called Private for a reason. How would you like all your pm's aired for the entire forum to see , or all your emails. It's the same thing and any way you slice it it's shady.

[Sonny]

Originally Posted by Protagonist

Think about it for a sec. As long as The Man was telling people this through PMs, eventually it would leak out. No one could avoid that, that is how we work.

Maybe we should blame The Man for doing this in the first place, he's privileged for having this information, but he's playing with our curious sense in a way that leads to nothing but destruction??

Or the most reasonable, maybe just blame ourselves for being this curious. No one had to read anything about this!

Anyways, I'm playing with the thought of making a stand for this through some petitions. It sure as hell ain't the most important problem in the verb, but the vibe is all wrong. And as an audience, we CAN! We can affect this, there is no doubt about that, just take a look at TV-history, or even parts of PB itself with Sara's "death"

As long as this is true.. that part remains unspoken as for now.

but we can´t change things with a petition that have already been shot.

[Protagonist]

I don't know.. Think about Tony Almeida in 24, who more or less was cut out because it leaked and everybody knew. And besides, everybody (basically) wants this to end the right way.

[Protagonist]

Originally Posted by DramaDiva

Maybe you should think about working differently ..It's called Private for a reason. How would you like all your pm's aired for the entire forum to see , or all your emails. It's the same thing and any way you slice it it's shady.

I'm not saying it isn't shady - the opposite, but what the hell did you expect?! This is how the world works, and how we find out the spoilers anyways!

[DramaDiva]

Originally Posted by Protagonist

I'm not saying it isn't shady - the opposite, but what the hell did you expect?! This is how the world works, and how we find out the spoilers anyways!

No most spoilers are not found out by certain members of certain forums PM'in people 'in the know' and then postin it all over the internet. Most spoilers are found out by people that work for magazines such as TVGuide. Or anonymous people leaking info to spoiler websites like SpoilerFix where it's toatly anon . The_Man is certainly not anonymous and what this girl did is just beyond wrong. PM's should not be aired publicly PERIOD. I expected this girl to have the decency to respect the wishes of the person she got the spoiler from and keep her lips sealed ....obviously she has no respect for the wishes of the people she gets info from . Which IMO makes her just about the worst person on the interwebz today

[Protagonist]

Originally Posted by DramaDiva

No most spoilers are not found out by certain members of certain forums PM'in people 'in the know' and then postin it all over the internet. Most spoilers are found out by people that work for magazines such as TVGuide. Or anonymous people leaking info to spoiler websites like SpoilerFix where it's toatly anon . The_Man is certainly not anonymous and what this girl did is just beyond wrong. PM's should not be aired publicly PERIOD. I expected this girl to have the decency to respect the wishes of the person she got the spoiler from and keep her lips sealed ....obviously she has no respect for the wishes of the people she gets info from . Which IMO makes her just about the worst person on the interwebz today

So it matters that much where the spoilers come from? That is new to me, and bs might I add. Sorry, but I believe so when it comes to most people searching spoilers..

People don't care where the spoilers originate - it doesn't matter how it is found as long is it is. I TOTALLY agree with you on how this came out, this girl has absolutely no honor at all and should probably be stoned But after all, this is is just a result of a curiosity satisfaction that escalated more than we wanted.

But come on - you knew that it was a risk anyways. The end in it self is very sad, but the way it came out was probably the saddest part.

(In this somewhat hypothetical discussion I take for granted that it is true, let us see what The Man himself says)

[DramaDiva]

Yes it maters. People who post as anon's to websites that post spoilers such as Spoierfix don't have to worry about losing their jobs as a result becasue it's all anon. Posting things like this girl did and naming names could very well result in the firing of some people. Some shows don't take kindly to BIG GIANT leaks and make employees sign waivers , which if they are found breaking could result in the loss of job. SO YES IT MATTERS. Don't you think the mans job matters? Don't you think he likes his paycheck ?

Ok I have to go to the DR now and am done arguing for the moment , but I am sure I will be back and we can finish this later.

[candyrose]

I'm not saying it isn't shady - the opposite, but what the hell did you expect?! This is how the world works, and how we find out the spoilers anyways!

Think about it for a sec. As long as The Man was telling people this through PMs, eventually it would leak out. No one could avoid that, that is how we work.

Maybe we should blame The Man for doing this in the first place, he's privileged for having this information, but he's playing with our curious sense in a way that leads to nothing but destruction??

I am honestly making an effort here to keep my cool because I cannot believe how this situation has been blown out of proportion and the behavior of some of these "fans" online.

First, The_Man answered her question because she WOULD NOT leave him alone. She and a group of her friends all came to this site and started hounded him on the forum. He answered their questions, but told them HE WAS NOT GOING TO GIVE EVERYTHING AWAY BECAUSE HE DIDN'T WANT TO SPOIL IT FOR THEM AFTER THEY HAD INVESTED SO MUCH TIME INTO WATCHING THE SHOW. He also told them that they MIGHT NOT WANT TO KNOW BECAUSE THERE IS ALWAYS A POSSIBILITY THEY MAY NOT BE COMPLETELY SATISFIED WITH THE ENDING. He warned them that if they got the answer, they might not be happy about what they hear. He told them he was not going to tell them how the show ended and give so many details, but they were not having it. Instead of letting it rest and waiting 2 WEEKS to get their answer, they decided to start bombarding him with private messages. Not only did they repeatedly, every day, send him private messages, but they also went to other sites AND TOLD EVERYONE ELSE TO COME TO BUDDYTV AND START HARASSING AND EMAILING THE_MAN THROUGH PRIVATE MESSAGES. They were literally trying to recruit as many people as possible to email The_Man, thinking if enough people bothered him, he would eventually cave in and give them the answer.

So, after pestering the hell out of The_Man, he finally gave her an answer. HE TOLD HER NOT TO TELL ANYONE AND TO KEEP IT PRIVATE. On this forum, she even stated she would not tell ANYONE the answer, but that she just wanted to know because she was spending her days worried and crying over not knowing if MiSa was going to be okay. She was hysterical. She said she couldn't live her life without knowing the news. Yes, she said this, along with many others. I can get the quotes if you'd like. These people made it sound like a life or death situation, stating they could not eat, sleep, study, or work because all they could think about was MiSa. Yes, I read this; these aren't my words.

Well, these people got their answer, and what did they do? THEY WENT AND SPREAD IT ALL OVER THE INTERNET, NOT KEEPING THE PROMISE THEY MADE TO KEEP IT A SECRET!!!

Not only did these people spread the news on the net, but they always embarked on a hate campaign against the writers and even The_Man himself. Some of the things I've read are so disturbing, so vile, and so full of hatred, I AM ACTUALLY CONCERNED FOR THE WRITERS AND THE_MAN.

These people have called the writers "****ing bastards," "jerks," and many other names that are highly offensive and inappropriate. Not only have they resorted to nasty name-calling, but they have also been encouraging others to send the writers and The_Man hate mail, so fans can tell them how despicable, disgusting, and ****ing stupid they are. They've posted email addresses and urls to profile pages, telling everyone to spread the hate. I've even seen people make comments about wanting the writers to be run over by a big truck and comments saying "kill the writers." Kill the writers? Are you kidding me? WTF!!!!

These people wanting to know the answer, they begged, pleaded, and harrassed to get it. They were warned that they might not like what they hear, and still they continued with their quest to get the information. When they finally got their answer, what do they do? Do they handle it like mature adults who know this is television and real life? Do they realize they should have stopped their pestering and waited like everyone else? No, they accuse The_Man of being a liar, trying to screw with the fans, and being a phony. They embark on this internet campaign, advocating the hate and disrespect for the writers and The_Man. They asserted they would sent hate mail to these people, even a year or so after the series has ended. They threw hissy fits, said their lives had been ruined, and demanding that changes were made, asking people to sign a petition to bring Michael back...because...because they thought that even after filming has been done....they could somehow convince the writers, the stuido, and the network to rewrite the episode, refilm the episode, and air the episode THEY WANTED TO SEE. I have never heard so much whining in my entire life, over something so miniscule and stupid. These people keeping asking: How could they do this to us? How could they resort to such betrayal? It makes it sound like they expected the writers to give them that happy ending and they felt entitlted to it. And if they felt such entitlement and thought everything was going to go THEIR WAY, why did they ask in the first place? It sounds like they weren't really asking to get the answer; they were asking merely to be told what they wanted to hear.
Did these peopel ever think about the fact that not everyone wants a happy ending? They act as if they own the show, as if they made it. MiSa fans are not the only ones that watch Prison Break, so they are no more entitled than anyone else. These "fans" have clearly demonstrated they only watch Prison Break for MiSa, and if that's the only reason why they watch Prison Break, then they are not true fans of the show. These fans have stated that they didn't care if ALL THE CHARACTERS DIED, as long as Michael and Sara got their happy ending. They have asked why Michael must die and Linc live. They have said, "please kill Linc instead--he deserves to die and Michael doesn't." There is more to Prison Break than Misa--there always has been. Misa has always existed more in the minds of MiSa fans than in the Prison Break universe the writers established. We've never seen them have sex. We've rarely seen them kiss, and when they do, it's far from romantic or passionate. Compared to many of the other characters, MiSa has played a little part in the story.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, even MiSa fans. They (you) have a right to be disappointed about the ending and have the write to complain a little and express your criticisms. They have the right to talk about it, the right to debate and discuss the show. They have a lot of rights, just like everyone else. But...and I mean a big, huge but....there is a line that should not be crossed. The comments I have read are beyond distrubing. They are scary...they are hateful, rude, vile, depolorable, and they make me ashamed to be a Prison Break fan because I do not want to be associated with people who spit out such garbage and hate. Calling the writers and The_Man vile names and making comments about them being assholes or wanting to kill them and make their lives miserable is taking it too far. These are the types of comments that get people into trouble. These are the types of comments that make people of "interest" want to hire a few extra body guards and install an alarm system in their homes. These are the type of comments people save, print out, or bookmark so that when things really go to far, they have something to hand over to the police...because, let's face it, there are a lot of crazy people in this world and one can never be too sure of what they are capable of.

I know there are a lot of people who may be disappointed by the direction Prison Break has taken, and especially how it will end. Again, you have the right to discuss and debate, making as many criticisms as you like. I know I have made a few of my own and talked quite a bit about my opposition to bring back Sara. But there is a big difference between debate and outright hate and harrassment.

I am sorry if this offends anyone or they find my comments to be too abrasive. How could I not react this way after reading all that has been posted on the internet. The writers have busted their tails trying to give the fans a good show, with substance, suspense, and emotion. They've had to deal with this huge divide between Prison Break fans--the MiSa lovers and the ones who don't like MiSa too much. They had to figure out a way to try to keep as many fans happy as possible, knowing that this feat will be difficult since fans expect different things. They know they can't make EVERYONE happy, so they did the best they could. And I should already say they have done a hell of a lot for the MiSa fans. Sara was supposed to die in season one, but she didn't. They finally decided to go through with her death in season 3, but fans refused to allow it. The writers caved in and obliged their fans, bringing Sara back so she could have more scenes with Michael. The writers have given the fans so much, why can't people show a little appreciation?

[-Laufas-]

OK, I thought we were supposed to discuss the ending in this thread, but apparantly not?

So The_man in a girl? I mean I'm confused the spoiler has been posted on SpoilerTV Blogspot by The_Man.. I'm confused I have no idea what you guys are talking about

[Protagonist]

candyrose and DramaDiva, you have both misunderstood the essence of my posts. Not on one occasion have I (at least not meant to) defended her act. My POINT was that you by no means should be surprised by someone doing this. But if you are not talking to me but in general, I totally agree with you on the very meaning of your posts. As I said, it's the saddest part about the whole thing. And thanks for further details about the case, candyrose

It's easier to understand - yet it fuels the idea of The Man giving them the wrong ending. I hope so. Maybe it is more uncertain than ever what happens?