Cast List Ep 401 & 402

[smileyone]

I'm not even sure if I will buy PB box set 3, as S4 will probably make it obsolete anyway.

^^^ OMG... That's a very good point Calena....
Is anything in PB 3 going to make any sense at all now seeing that they have gone back on alot of it now... Many characters new to S3, like Lechero and Sammy etc... are already killed off so therefore won't actually make a difference to the story in S4. The only new ish one being Whistler as it seems that Sofia is also now not in the frame in S4 either...

So then, Is S3 boxset worth actually getting? Yes, in theory T-Bag, Bellick & Sucre all holed up in Sona with a bird book... may look odd initially at start of S4... but surely any excuse could cover that one....

And that stark really bad images of Mikey at the very beginning of S3, being thrown into Sona, could all be put down to a bad dream on his part... He went to bed one night anxious about Sara, and then had a real nasty dream about being locked in a very bad place without her.... with only the clothes he was wearing ... a sort of Hell if you like.... Well, they did it in SPN... and Dean came back ok.... It also worked for Bobby & Pam Ewing in Dallas....

The whole Sara loses her head thing is obviously now not true, and as far as we are all concerned pre first ep in S3... LJ was still happily away at college etc... safe in the care of that agent woman that Linc obviously trusted to the core... and the lady, the rest of us never heard from again, cause she seemed to have just disappeared off the face of the earth...

Seriously.... Is there really any need for a S3 Boxset DVD other then to generate money?

Any one offer up any thoughts on why we should buy a S3 boxset here? ....

[Calena]

Any one offer up any thoughts on why we should buy a S3 boxset here? ....

You are really in a bad mood today, aren't you smiley
Well, one can still hope for awesome, breathtaking specials, quality-wise as well as quantity wise.
Hint: a gag reel is always very very nice!

[smileyone]

LMAO.... A gag reel..... How about a GAG reel all about Sara when she was having her head cut off... LMAO!!!

Oh I dunno Calena....
I am just a bit uggghhhh with the whole PB 4 thing at the moment....
I don't feel anything about it at the moment....

IMO, EK over in SPN has thoroughly spoiled us, He has really taken on board the fact that his show has fans and he has respected them... His decision making has on many occasions revolved around the views of the shows fans. He has often admitted that one. He has also had the balls to stick to his guns on a decision to keep a character or storyline in there even if he knew that the fans didn't like it as much, but on these few occasions, he always explained to fans his reasons behind his decisions. As fans of the show, we all feel part of the show... etc...

The morale between the actors, writers, staff etc... in the SPN show always seems so good! If they have any problems or clashes at all, it is never ever communicated to it's fans.... They still also seem to hold great affection for all it's past stars/actors characters.. etc... I give Jeff Dean Morgan as an example here... He still publically says he hangs around the set on his days off from his other work too.... so obviously morale etc.... is quite good!!!

But with this PB show... First of all, the PB writers piss off all the MiSa fans by killing Sara off in such a brutal manner... They stood by and listened to these fans grieve and cry over these actions for months.... They even made sure on many occasions in interviews, both verbally and on paper... to state adamantly that the woman was dead! The rest of us who were not as endeared to the whole MiSa storyline...put up with months of it on here...
In fact, many of the shows stars, inc. Wentworth Miller went to great pains to say in many many interviews that their whole relationship was based more on reasons why they could never be together then reasons why they were ever meant to be etc... so making light of the whole relationship anyway!!!

And then.... Back she comes... Head and all.... Totally insulting all the fans of the show who tuned in for the story.... I really can't hide my upset about how her character was re introduced back into this show.... The whole, she wasn't really ever dead storyline they are tripping over themselves to put out there.... Suddenly... everyone including Wentworth Miller and Co are also tripping over themselves to say that the MiSa relationship was in fact the best most solid one ever!!! EVER!!!!!

I am just a bit mad more so on how they have treated the shows fans here... I am a person who will instantly put my hand up in the air and apologise if I have messed up on anything... I admit my mistakes and move on... And I try to learn from them!

However, I truly believe that the writers etc... of this show totally underestimated how upset their fans would be, first over her death... and then again... on how the brought her back... by not sticking to their guns!!! I am disappointed in them... What would it have taken for even one of them to stand up and say... Whoa, We made a mistake here folks.... We underestimated you fans upset... We will try to sort it out for you... Please bear with us and keep with our story!!! etc.... Personally, if even one of them did or said something like that.... The rest of us fans may have respected them a lot more!!!
That's all!!!

Also, the general feel you get from certain interviews that the current shows stars give out when asked about Sara's return also at time come across a bit mocking too... I won't mention anyone in particular here, but you can see the look of 'yeah... C**p comeback..... ' on their faces...
That's just an observation....

Ok... Calena... Smiley will cheer up now.... Just had to get all that off my chest!

As regards, Chris Vance, I wasn't as such a big fan of him prior to his PB days... but I had heard of him or watched a couple of random other things he was in, here in UK....
He is a good actor, bright and versitile in his approach to the things he can do with a character! I am kind of sorry about how he has been treated by this show.... And I wish him the very best for the future after PB!!! I will watch his progress!!

[Calena]

Ok... Calena... Smiley will cheer up now.... Just had to get all that off my chest!

Oh, it's totally ok, love, I agree with all you are saying!

[The_Man]

Originally Posted by smileyone

Yes... Just go ahead....Please don't hesitate to tell the lovely Chris Vance that poor Smiley is so down and depressed... er... no sucidal .. over the fact that the lovely Whistler is reported soon not going to be a part of PB... that sadly drowning by gargling Celine Dion songs.... yeah... Go ahead... Rush over there right now!!!
He'll surely appreciate that one!!!

if i run into anyone who cares to listen i will definately pass on your love for whistler...

but i am sorry that i upset you with my post....even though it was unintended

[candyrose]

Wow, how did I miss this long rant! Seems like several of the gang haven't been too chipper. Let's just all be happy and try to smile a little.

Smiley, I couldn't agree with you more. I think it was a complete sell-out to bring Sara back and it shows a certain neglect to the true PB fans out there who tune in each week because a good story is being told, not because they are looking for romance or naked bum shots of the Weenieworth. Hell, for awhile there was talk about Michael having all his tattoos removed, which is another completely illogical thing to include in the story. But one can only assume that if the tats are gone in season 4,which I hope they are not and this is simply just a rumor, it's because of those bedroom scenes we might actually get to see. Anyway, returning to the subject of Sara, I think it's interesting how certain people are so quick to not only accept her return, but to actually think it makes sense. I hope the general view of Prison Break fans doesn't include believing that's what all the fans think. It makes us look like a bunch of idiots who can be easily fooled....and I find it insulting, to be honest.

With that being said, I think this Sara craze has gotten more attention than it deserves and has distracted many from other, non-tainted parts of the story which still hold value and credibility story wise. After watching all the promos and reading various interviews, I am once again excited about Prison Break. I may not like Sara's return, but I still like Prison break..there is still a good story there..and I also think Prison Break is coming to a close and this could possibly be the last season....so maybe we will only have to endure MiSa for one more season and that's it. Who knows?

[smileyone]

Originally Posted by The_Man

if i run into anyone who cares to listen i will definately pass on your love for whistler...

but i am sorry that i upset you with my post....even though it was unintended

Ahhh hun
You will never upset Smiley in that regard, thanks for your steady stream of accurate info etc... Much appreciated...
I was just in a really bad mood that day... Bad PMT etc.... and you were nearest....
For future reference though, please ignore Smiley's little rants at certain times in the month... and maybe send me a truck or two of chocolate... that always seems to help!!!!

Originally Posted by The_Man

if i run into anyone who cares to listen i will definately pass on your love for whistler...

Ahh I was joking in a way... those who know me... know that Smiley would never ever ever play Celine songs.... even in her very darkest hour....
I am just a bit annoyed that Whistler's story now seems a bit redundant because of Sara's return...Regardless of what I think of Chris Vance... I actually did/do like the character Whistler.... He was interesting and I sadly don't feel he was given a fair shot!!! That's all....

Anyway thanks again for all your info... Hope your day/night is going well...

Be good

Smiley