S3E13: The Art of the Deal Discussion

joeyjoejoe · 02-18-2008, 07:21 PM

Whew boy......that episode was pretty hardcore. The thing that impressed me the most is how I was wrong on almost every major plot point, I wasn't able to predict anything with this one.

Let's start with the easy stuff and work our way up: am I the only one that laughed when Whistler got kicked in the sternum while he was laying down? Sorry smiley....but I laughed.

McGrady got away. I don't really know how to feel about him getting away, he is clearly likable from what we know of him...but again we don't know why he was in prison.

I initially thought that Lechero wasn't dead, because his arm moved after he was "dead." It seems that he is very much dead though at the conclusion of that episode.

I thought the setup for the exchange was great. The metal detectors, the placing of the "plastic" arrowheads in Whistler's pocket that allowed the brothers to divert attention from themselves, and the line Michael gave about the exit being disabled in the event of an emergency. That was really funny.

Now the tricky stuff: Mahone's revelation at the end. Not only was he meeting Whistler, but he was taken back into the fold of the Company. I don't know how to feel about this yet....but I will say I thought Mahone would turn the other way. I wonder if he is going to be working exclusively with Gretchen and Whistler in the future.

Whistler's briefcase: the intel on the contact. I think this is pretty conclusive on Whistler being a spy, the real question is for whom? Is he a double agent?

Now the bombshell: Mahone hinted at someone being alive, and that they would lead him to Whistler. Is this Sara? This is going to be a subject of very strong debate in the coming months.

Darkgamr · 02-18-2008, 07:34 PM

I think the only real reason that Mahone went back was because of Linc's attempted murder. But anyways, the episode was good, but I don't think it was finale material. Also I am very pissed at the lack of season 4 confirmation.

And I don't remember anything about Mahone mentioning someone

zamolxe · 02-18-2008, 07:37 PM

Does anyone know the name and band/singer of the song that was played at the end.
"Jurado por l'amor..."
10x

joeyjoejoe · 02-18-2008, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkgamr

I think the only real reason that Mahone went back was because of Linc's attempted murder. But anyways, the episode was good, but I don't think it was finale material. Also I am very pissed at the lack of season 4 confirmation.

And I don't remember anything about Mahone mentioning someone

Did I not catch that right? I thought he said that if he finds her, she will lead him to Whistler, and then to Gretchen.

You know....what you are saying about Mahone makes sense. I think it's a nod to the end of Peter Jackson's The Two Towers.

ap_magic1 · 02-18-2008, 07:47 PM

whistler: she handles the money
Mahone: she better handle more than that.... If she has done what you think she has done, sara, ...she is the weak link in this, and he will find her and then scofield will find you and then me and im not paying for your mess
Whistler: Are you in or are you out ?

candyrose · 02-18-2008, 07:48 PM

Actually, the file in the briefcase could possibly be about Molly's husband. If I remember correctly, and please correct me if I am wrong, they both have the same last name. It seems this was an angle which would leave room for the inclusion of Molly in future episodes--if they choose to cast her and can find someone they believe fits the mold they are looking for. Being that her husband was supposedly killed, it makes me wonder what all Whistler has done. Was he the one who killed her family...or did he simply have something to do with it, more indirectly?
I have to say I was completely shocked to see Whistler meeting Mahone in the bar. It seems the two are up to something and the brothers could still be targeted by the company, so this throws all the possibility of Whistler having some sort of respect for Mikey out of the window. It is clear his intentions are not good. What got me was Mahone's comment about Sara.....God, I'm sure people are going to have a field day with that one. He spoke to Whistler as if he didn't know for sure she was dead...like it could have just be an act of manipulation on the company's part. All I have to say is I hope this is not the case because it would make the company look weak and inefficient. We need to buy that they are indeed a dangerous bunch..instead of viewing them as full of empty threats....unless, of course, the scenario I described in a previous post actually did occur (although I wasn't being serious when I made the comment) and they were simply trying to cover their asses.
I really liked the scenes with T-bag. What really got me was how, at first, he seemed to show some concern for Lechero. Of course, I was suspicious and didn't really buy into it...but still..it had you wondering what on earth he was thinking.

PS...Hey Joeyjoejoe...I am glad you are here tonight...it's always nice when you pop in...

zamolxe · 02-18-2008, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zamolxe

Does anyone know the name and band/singer of the song that was played at the end.
"Jurado por l'amor..."
10x

it's called 'Llorando' by Rebekah Del Rio...Mulholland Drive soundtrack

Analog Kid · 02-18-2008, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyrose

Actually, the file in the briefcase could possibly be about Molly's husband.

Sorry, but who's Molly??

candyrose · 02-18-2008, 08:05 PM

Did you just answer your own question...and if so, why ask it in the first place if you already know??

She was a character who was supposed to be introduced this season. They had planned on making a spinoff about a women's prison, with Molly being the main character.

Sources tell me producers are adding a new female series regular, who joins the cast in episode nine. The character’s name is Molly Leif, and she’s an American housewife in her mid-30s who is desperately investigating the disappearance of her husband and daughter. Her pursuit leads her to Sona prison, and you best believe Linc and Michael somehow become entangled with her. No word yet on who’s playing her.
Source: www.prisonbreakbuff.com

Some fans were outraged by this because they viewed her as a replacement for Sara...specifically a new love interest for Mikey. Apparently, according to the various descriptions and leaks provided, she and Mikey have some sort of connection. They are both equally screwed up and carry a lot of emotional baggage.

joeyjoejoe · 02-18-2008, 08:07 PM

I agree with candy that the sara line is open to interpretation.....but i'm inclined to believe that they won't bring her back anyways. I just feel bad for smiley....her heart must have broken this episode.

02-18-2008, 07:21 PM	#1
joeyjoejoe Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 396	S3E13: The Art of the Deal Discussion Whew boy......that episode was pretty hardcore. The thing that impressed me the most is how I was wrong on almost every major plot point, I wasn't able to predict anything with this one. Let's start with the easy stuff and work our way up: am I the only one that laughed when Whistler got kicked in the sternum while he was laying down? Sorry smiley....but I laughed. McGrady got away. I don't really know how to feel about him getting away, he is clearly likable from what we know of him...but again we don't know why he was in prison. I initially thought that Lechero wasn't dead, because his arm moved after he was "dead." It seems that he is very much dead though at the conclusion of that episode. I thought the setup for the exchange was great. The metal detectors, the placing of the "plastic" arrowheads in Whistler's pocket that allowed the brothers to divert attention from themselves, and the line Michael gave about the exit being disabled in the event of an emergency. That was really funny. Now the tricky stuff: Mahone's revelation at the end. Not only was he meeting Whistler, but he was taken back into the fold of the Company. I don't know how to feel about this yet....but I will say I thought Mahone would turn the other way. I wonder if he is going to be working exclusively with Gretchen and Whistler in the future. Whistler's briefcase: the intel on the contact. I think this is pretty conclusive on Whistler being a spy, the real question is for whom? Is he a double agent? Now the bombshell: Mahone hinted at someone being alive, and that they would lead him to Whistler. Is this Sara? This is going to be a subject of very strong debate in the coming months.

02-18-2008, 07:34 PM	#2
Darkgamr Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 84	I think the only real reason that Mahone went back was because of Linc's attempted murder. But anyways, the episode was good, but I don't think it was finale material. Also I am very pissed at the lack of season 4 confirmation. And I don't remember anything about Mahone mentioning someone __________________ Ummmm...

02-18-2008, 08:05 PM	#9
candyrose Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 5,706	Did you just answer your own question...and if so, why ask it in the first place if you already know?? She was a character who was supposed to be introduced this season. They had planned on making a spinoff about a women's prison, with Molly being the main character. Sources tell me producers are adding a new female series regular, who joins the cast in episode nine. The character’s name is Molly Leif, and she’s an American housewife in her mid-30s who is desperately investigating the disappearance of her husband and daughter. Her pursuit leads her to Sona prison, and you best believe Linc and Michael somehow become entangled with her. No word yet on who’s playing her. Source: www.prisonbreakbuff.com Some fans were outraged by this because they viewed her as a replacement for Sara...specifically a new love interest for Mikey. Apparently, according to the various descriptions and leaks provided, she and Mikey have some sort of connection. They are both equally screwed up and carry a lot of emotional baggage. Last edited by candyrose : 02-18-2008 at 08:13 PM.

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02-18-2008, 07:37 PM	#3
zamolxe Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2	Does anyone know the name and band/singer of the song that was played at the end. "Jurado por l'amor..." 10x

02-18-2008, 07:47 PM	#5
ap_magic1 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 113	whistler: she handles the money Mahone: she better handle more than that.... If she has done what you think she has done, sara, ...she is the weak link in this, and he will find her and then scofield will find you and then me and im not paying for your mess Whistler: Are you in or are you out ?

02-18-2008, 07:48 PM	#6
candyrose Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 5,706	Actually, the file in the briefcase could possibly be about Molly's husband. If I remember correctly, and please correct me if I am wrong, they both have the same last name. It seems this was an angle which would leave room for the inclusion of Molly in future episodes--if they choose to cast her and can find someone they believe fits the mold they are looking for. Being that her husband was supposedly killed, it makes me wonder what all Whistler has done. Was he the one who killed her family...or did he simply have something to do with it, more indirectly? I have to say I was completely shocked to see Whistler meeting Mahone in the bar. It seems the two are up to something and the brothers could still be targeted by the company, so this throws all the possibility of Whistler having some sort of respect for Mikey out of the window. It is clear his intentions are not good. What got me was Mahone's comment about Sara.....God, I'm sure people are going to have a field day with that one. He spoke to Whistler as if he didn't know for sure she was dead...like it could have just be an act of manipulation on the company's part. All I have to say is I hope this is not the case because it would make the company look weak and inefficient. We need to buy that they are indeed a dangerous bunch..instead of viewing them as full of empty threats....unless, of course, the scenario I described in a previous post actually did occur (although I wasn't being serious when I made the comment) and they were simply trying to cover their asses. I really liked the scenes with T-bag. What really got me was how, at first, he seemed to show some concern for Lechero. Of course, I was suspicious and didn't really buy into it...but still..it had you wondering what on earth he was thinking. PS...Hey Joeyjoejoe...I am glad you are here tonight...it's always nice when you pop in...

02-18-2008, 08:07 PM	#10
joeyjoejoe Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 396	I agree with candy that the sara line is open to interpretation.....but i'm inclined to believe that they won't bring her back anyways. I just feel bad for smiley....her heart must have broken this episode.