S3E12: Hell or High Water Discussion - Page 5

helps · 02-13-2008, 11:24 AM

it was great ep...i really enjoyed that one,but i must say a few things weren´t much compelling to me...first i was little wondered that guys escaped through fence and no one saw them...second thing that was little incredible that Mcgrady´s father arrived and by chance he found exactly the same place where they were...and last one what little dissapointed me was that James lost his book and then way how Teddy picked up that...these things was little hasty IMO,but all in all it was fantastic ep...i appreciated that we finally came to know what was dug in on the beach and why Linc recorded shoots...It was pleasant watching how he outsmarted Susan ^^ ....i must say Linc little annoyed me in this ep...i don´t know why he was so cruel to Mahone and Whistler.....i understand he probably was nervous about Lj,but still...although Alex killed his father in Sona he saved life of his brother...and it was enough crass when Mahone wanted give pic of Cameron to sachet and Lincoln snaped out him...Whistler was good one in this ep LOL....it was funny how he affected so injured...how dissimulated that his ankle is out of joint and how he was skipping like kangaroo

...and in the end big surprise muhaha he was running like rabbit LOL...Mcgrady was great too and i rellaly hope that everything about him will be alright....I dont understand why Lincoln wanted to kill Alex and i´m really curious to next ep,because Susan probably will be little angry when she wont get Whistler...i hate the fact that we will have only one next ep

Calena · 02-13-2008, 11:44 AM

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.I dont understand why Lincoln wanted to kill Alex

Because Alex shot Linc's and Michael's father Aldo Burrows in the back and killed him in season 2. Alex has really grown on me in season 3 (I thought he was cool from the very beginning but I didn't really like him in S2), but I can't blame Linc that he has the urge to kill the murderer of his father. It speaks for Linc that he didn't pull the trigger.
Alex was really nice to Whistler in this ep.

candyrose · 02-13-2008, 12:05 PM

I really like his character and have a great appreciation for what the writers have done with him. They humanized him, constructed him in such a way that you really don't know what to think of him--you either hate him for what he has done or you have sympathy for him...I think he has been one of the better written characters on the show, and WF plays him so well.
Yes, Linc wants revenge....to make the man responsible for his father's death pay. However, I don't think Mahone really took anything integral away from him because his father was never really a part of his life. In essence, he was pretty much already dead to the brothers...they didn't know who he was or where he was...or even if he was still alive. In addition to this, I believe his father knew it was inevitable that he would die...it was a part of the decision he made when he turned on the Company....and this wasn't a murder in which some blood thirsty agent goes shooting away, looking for a moving target. It's a bit more complicated than that. And, lastly, what about the sons, daughters, wives, and husbands of everyone who has died as a result of the brothers--whether direct or indirect? Do they too have the right, the justification to go after those responsible?? How about the brothers?? Remember my fake Molly scenario? The one I wanted that dude to write out? Well, I think it would be interesting if some innocent party, with all their misguided anger and sadness, would somehow place the blame on the brothers....with a conflict of some sort resulting.

helps · 02-13-2008, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Calena

Because Alex shot Linc's and Michael's father Aldo Burrows in the back and killed him in season 2. Alex has really grown on me in season 3 (I thought he was cool from the very beginning but I didn't really like him in S2), but I can't blame Linc that he has the urge to kill the murderer of his father. It speaks for Linc that he didn't pull the trigger.
Alex was really nice to Whistler in this ep.

yeah you´re right but still i dont think that it would be good reason for kill Mahone...nothing can come back his father and Alex is the one who vindicate second chance IMO...and honestly i think that he would pull the trigger if Whistler didn´t escape.

fully agree with candy about Mahone(WF) and about brother´s father

candyrose · 02-13-2008, 12:22 PM

Thank you! We really can't know if he would have pulled the trigger. I think Whistler's escape came at the perfect time and offered Mahone a chance for escape as well. No matter how much Linc wanted to get Mahone, Whistler was more important because LJ's life rest in his hands...in his cooperation.

helps · 02-13-2008, 12:40 PM

yeah...i admit that we really cant know that...but i guess that he would do that..and i´m happy that he didnt get occasion

joeyjoejoe · 02-14-2008, 12:01 AM

After another watch:

Why did Michael and Linc resign to not chasing Whistler? They just stood there like idiots, they had a working car right there. The only thing I can think is for a dramatic effect.

I hope next week's episode starts with a scene of Whistler drinking coffee at a shop, then Linc comes in and smacks the coffee out of his hand.

"What's up bi$%^?"

"Oh, I was scared....boohoo....I'm a fisherman...."

[SMACK TO THE FACE]

The end.

Egyptian · 02-14-2008, 01:57 AM

The funny part this show came from Lincoln and T-Bag, especially when Whistler said something and Lincoln said "Are you still talking?"

I believe Whistler ran away after seeing what they would do with Mahone, I mean if they shoot Mahone they could just as well shoot Whistler (he doesn't know Mahone shot their father)

Calena · 02-14-2008, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Egyptian

I believe Whistler ran away after seeing what they would do with Mahone, I mean if they shoot Mahone they could just as well shoot Whistler (he doesn't know Mahone shot their father)

Oh, Whistler is such an innocent fisherman he got scared at the sight of Linc holding someone at gunpoint? ... I think not. I think Whistler planned all along not to let himself be handed over to Susan, but to escape the brothers and somehow free Sofia himself.
Also the thought that Mahone and Whistler were cooperating crossed my mind. That Whistler asked Mahone to create a diversion so he could flee. But that seems a bit far fetched to me.

smileyone · 02-14-2008, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Calena

Oh, Whistler is such an innocent fisherman he got scared at the sight of Linc holding someone at gunpoint? ... I think not. I think Whistler planned all along not to let himself be handed over to Susan, but to escape the brothers and somehow free Sofia himself.
Also the thought that Mahone and Whistler were cooperating crossed my mind. That Whistler asked Mahone to create a diversion so he could flee. But that seems a bit far fetched to me.

Arrrgggghhhhh..... You are all such doubters on here!!!!! You are all programmed to automatically see the worst in every human being !!! LOL!!!.... Whistler IS just an innocent little fisherman.... scared for his life.... of the brothers ganging up on him.... the bullies!!!

You will all see the truth ..... eventually!!!! Personally..... I hope little James can dig it out of somewhere deep down inside him to forgive you all!!!!!!

02-13-2008, 11:24 AM	#41
helps Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Czech Republic,Europe Posts: 5,693	it was great ep...i really enjoyed that one,but i must say a few things weren´t much compelling to me...first i was little wondered that guys escaped through fence and no one saw them...second thing that was little incredible that Mcgrady´s father arrived and by chance he found exactly the same place where they were...and last one what little dissapointed me was that James lost his book and then way how Teddy picked up that...these things was little hasty IMO,but all in all it was fantastic ep...i appreciated that we finally came to know what was dug in on the beach and why Linc recorded shoots...It was pleasant watching how he outsmarted Susan ^^ ....i must say Linc little annoyed me in this ep...i don´t know why he was so cruel to Mahone and Whistler.....i understand he probably was nervous about Lj,but still...although Alex killed his father in Sona he saved life of his brother...and it was enough crass when Mahone wanted give pic of Cameron to sachet and Lincoln snaped out him...Whistler was good one in this ep LOL....it was funny how he affected so injured...how dissimulated that his ankle is out of joint and how he was skipping like kangaroo...and in the end big surprise muhaha he was running like rabbit LOL...Mcgrady was great too and i rellaly hope that everything about him will be alright....I dont understand why Lincoln wanted to kill Alex and i´m really curious to next ep,because Susan probably will be little angry when she wont get Whistler...i hate the fact that we will have only one next ep __________________ R.I.P. Kim Manners Charles Beard: "When it is dark enough, you can see the stars." An Eskimo proverb: "Perhaps they are not stars, but rather openings in heaven where the love of our lost ones pours through and shines down upon us to let us know they are happy."

02-13-2008, 12:40 PM	#46
helps Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Czech Republic,Europe Posts: 5,693	yeah...i admit that we really cant know that...but i guess that he would do that..and i´m happy that he didnt get occasion __________________ R.I.P. Kim Manners Charles Beard: "When it is dark enough, you can see the stars." An Eskimo proverb: "Perhaps they are not stars, but rather openings in heaven where the love of our lost ones pours through and shines down upon us to let us know they are happy."

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02-13-2008, 12:05 PM	#43
candyrose Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 5,706	I really like his character and have a great appreciation for what the writers have done with him. They humanized him, constructed him in such a way that you really don't know what to think of him--you either hate him for what he has done or you have sympathy for him...I think he has been one of the better written characters on the show, and WF plays him so well. Yes, Linc wants revenge....to make the man responsible for his father's death pay. However, I don't think Mahone really took anything integral away from him because his father was never really a part of his life. In essence, he was pretty much already dead to the brothers...they didn't know who he was or where he was...or even if he was still alive. In addition to this, I believe his father knew it was inevitable that he would die...it was a part of the decision he made when he turned on the Company....and this wasn't a murder in which some blood thirsty agent goes shooting away, looking for a moving target. It's a bit more complicated than that. And, lastly, what about the sons, daughters, wives, and husbands of everyone who has died as a result of the brothers--whether direct or indirect? Do they too have the right, the justification to go after those responsible?? How about the brothers?? Remember my fake Molly scenario? The one I wanted that dude to write out? Well, I think it would be interesting if some innocent party, with all their misguided anger and sadness, would somehow place the blame on the brothers....with a conflict of some sort resulting.

02-13-2008, 12:22 PM	#45
candyrose Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 5,706	Thank you! We really can't know if he would have pulled the trigger. I think Whistler's escape came at the perfect time and offered Mahone a chance for escape as well. No matter how much Linc wanted to get Mahone, Whistler was more important because LJ's life rest in his hands...in his cooperation.

02-14-2008, 12:01 AM	#47
joeyjoejoe Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 396	After another watch: Why did Michael and Linc resign to not chasing Whistler? They just stood there like idiots, they had a working car right there. The only thing I can think is for a dramatic effect. I hope next week's episode starts with a scene of Whistler drinking coffee at a shop, then Linc comes in and smacks the coffee out of his hand. "What's up bi$%^?" "Oh, I was scared....boohoo....I'm a fisherman...." [SMACK TO THE FACE] The end.

02-14-2008, 01:57 AM	#48
Egyptian Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 31	The funny part this show came from Lincoln and T-Bag, especially when Whistler said something and Lincoln said "Are you still talking?" I believe Whistler ran away after seeing what they would do with Mahone, I mean if they shoot Mahone they could just as well shoot Whistler (he doesn't know Mahone shot their father)