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Old 04-28-2009, 04:29 PM   #11
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Hi! I've been reading here for a while and I just got registered.

I have an idea regarding Sarahs pregnancy. What are you guys thinking of her being raped back in Panama? You never know, that would explain these non existing sex-scenes...
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Old 04-28-2009, 06:52 PM   #12
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I really enjoyed the episode - I guess more than 4x17...Linc changed soo much! He totally looked like a Company agent! with all that posture and body movement!! I liked Sara`s scenes and when Michael found out that it really is their mother behind that all...I didn`t find t-bag`s scene funny though...I don`t know why so many people praised that...I guess it`s mostly because of the admiration for the actor
Regarding it all I`d give 5 out of 6
He did look pretty smooth, didn't he.

How can anyone not like T-bag? Hm? Well, T-bag is the king of bull****ting, and he tends to get himself in these situations where he has to rely heavily on improvisation, which means you never know what is going to come out of his mouth. RK plays him so well, and I swear I am going to miss such a brilliantly played character on television.

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Hi! I've been reading here for a while and I just got registered.

I have an idea regarding Sarahs pregnancy. What are you guys thinking of her being raped back in Panama? You never know, that would explain these non existing sex-scenes...
Howdy there! Welcome to the forum!!!!

The idea has occurred to me, but they really didn't go into much detail about what happened during her captivity. They put a lot of focus on her being whipped, and while this certainly isn't a pleasant experience to have, it really isn't that bad when compared to the other things that have happened on Prison Break. I think the bathroom scene with Kellerman, for example, could be seen as just as bad, if not worse.

Regarding the rape theory, I always had it in my mind that Gretchen did more to Sara than was shown. My imagination has literally gone wild in that regard, and I can easily picture Gretchen as this super sadistic bitch. I always imagined that Gretchen may have actually sexually assaulted Sara, although that doesn't explain Sara's pregnancy, of course. I get the impression that Gretchen hates other women, and she seems to act rather seductively toward other women as well. Being that Sara was whipped, we can say Gretchen certainly came in prepared. I mean, how any women carry a whip around with them?
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Old 04-29-2009, 05:46 AM   #13
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Hi! I've been reading here for a while and I just got registered.

I have an idea regarding Sarahs pregnancy. What are you guys thinking of her being raped back in Panama? You never know, that would explain these non existing sex-scenes...
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Btw.... Very good point above.... Maybe Sara & Michael did get together at some stage and we are just not aware of it.... I would be surprised if they would introduce a rape storyline into the show at this late stage.... It just further complicates the last few eps... IMO.... But I suppose, with PB, you never quite know!
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smileyone is now a moderator? when did that happen...congrats anyway..
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Old 04-30-2009, 05:46 PM   #15
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Sorry I didn't post yet, finals and all. This episode was good, not great. I really like that things are becoming more unpredictable as the season progresses, there have been a few interesting scenes in the last few weeks. I really liked when T-Bag handcuffed himself to the embassy, all I thought of was the Season 1 finale.

Did Christina Scofield leave the information in the embassy for Linc intentionally?

I always thought MiSa had sex in Episode 1..... so I don't find the pregnancy that unbelievable. I agree with candyrose that the timeline is a bit fishy though... I thought that this season has only been 2 or 3 weeks in the timeline? It's only been a few months since the start of Season 1 believe it or not.
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I still find it difficult to believe they had sex, given everything that had happened and what was going on during episode one. Again, Micheal didn't even know about the scars on her back, so that makes it little less plausible they had sex. Plus, when he touched her shoulder, she flinched and acted like she was scared to be touched. Sex is an extremely intimate act, emotionally and physically. If Sara was so emotionally beaten and if a simple touch of the shoulder made her jump, I have a hard time believing she could have sex without having some sort of breakdown. It just doesn't fit with the picture the writers tried to establish with the Sara character. I've been around victims...I've been one myself....and I can say after a mere few days following an attack or substantial abuse...you just don't hop in the first c**K you see and act like everything is perfect. Not to mention, Sara's situation was far more complicated than others' situation. We know she had some trust issue with Michael and at times felt like he was partly responsible for her father's death....even if she could recognize it was unintentional. They had a lot of stuff to work through, and being tortured and possibly raped sure wouldn't help the situation. And, again, they were both wearing clothes.
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Old 04-30-2009, 06:14 PM   #17
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I thought they staged the scene so that it looked like they were getting dressed together, Michael was putting on a shirt and Sara was putting on socks or something, and it looked like they were sharing a bed.

I think your arguments are well put, I guess I'm just not as skeptical as you are.
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Old 04-30-2009, 06:49 PM   #18
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I think they may have intended it to be taken either way. Regardless, the thought of them together so soon doesn't fit. It makes Sara's individual storyline more unconvincing.

Thanks for the nice words anyway.
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Old 04-30-2009, 11:00 PM   #19
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the most realistic point to me where they would have had sex was while they stayed in the hotel in chicago at the end of season 2. same hotel where they listened to the tape of caroline reynolds, since this was very close to prolly their most intimate moment which was in the bathroom on the train.

not sure how long the timeline has been since then. Only a couple of days till season 2 ended then season 3 was only a couple weeks. But i was never clear on how much time happened between season 3 and 4.

im sure even by the end of the show we will never know when it happened, but in my mind it fits pretty well here.

any thoughts on this idea ?
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Old 05-01-2009, 12:26 AM   #20
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Well, it's a possibility, and it makes more sense than what we're going on now. However, I still don't see it as likely.
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