About the finale & Michael's death.. - Page 4

Missy_KS · 06-07-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by costellomusic

Although the ending was by no means completely satisfying, i think you summed up yourself why the writers killed Michael:
'Yes ok, i admit it, the end was epic, thrilling, amazing, sad blah blah blah'

If all the characters had just walked off into the sunset it would have been a bit of a 'oh, is that the end? that was boring...' kind of ending. The writers needed to create a high impact 'wow' factor ending, and i believe they did this.

That's an excellent point. I imagine there would be people complaining just as much if everyone had just walked off into the sunset as you suggest.

PrisonBreak<3 · 06-10-2009, 02:21 PM

About T-Bag I agree with JameDaTruth T-Bag should have been under more supervision in Prison for all of the things he did but the problem were the COs did not care so Michael is not a type that blames other people but blames himself he thought it was all his fault for every murder that T-Bag did even though it wasn't his fault. Now about Michael's death yes it was sad but it was the only way to end the show he lived his life for others and in the end he gave his life for others(Sara and his son).

humyra · 06-20-2009, 06:27 AM

definitely not dead. more could have been a great final. draw attention, but the screenwriter wanted .

wests_gf · 06-22-2009, 06:29 AM

one thing I've learnt about pb is that no one is ever dead until you see them dead. He's definitely still alive...so is the general.

i read somewhere that the number of viewers decreased by a couple of million every season..which i have to say is understandable because they seasons did decline in quality/climax.

especially season 4, i mean how many cell phones and guns were in that season? geesh.

season 1 was definitely the best season. and i am sad to say but i really think this was the end of it. how many prisons can 1 guy break out of?

just my 2 cents.

steph4015 · 06-22-2009, 07:48 PM

Well a lot of people said that it was the only way the show could end. Well don't know but the perfect ending for be wound have been Sucre, Lincoln, Michael & Sara watching the general execution. He did include t-bag in the escape (not by choice but still) so technically yes he's responsible for T-bag victims until the end of season 2, but all of the others, Veronica, Nick Savrin the women in the wood (don't remember her name) Laticia i think, it's not Michael fault. They made their choice like helping Lincoln and saying the truth ... What pissed me off is that the show has been about family and seeking justice and the justice had not been made. Cause the minute they got exonorated, the fed still after them trying by any way to get to them again. Like the last episode has been nothing but cell phone talk and switching scylla between the general & the mother and then the big moment we were all waiting for four four year, last 2 minutes and then Michael grave. C'mon.

And at the end the writters broke out some piece of the season one story like the mother real death reason. LIVER CANCER. Then they've come with that stupid idea of a brain tumor, they could at least bring that idea by making Lincoln and Michael completly unaware of the real reason of her death. But nop we see Lincoln talking about that with Sara in Las Vegas and then Michael when they come back. Bull ****t. If they wanted to kill him, i will rather see him take a bullet then sacrifice himself BECAUSE he was going to die anyway. Cause if it never been around brain tumor and him dying soon he would had probably found another way to break her out without him getting killed. He broke out of two prison but he's not abble to open a dam door without been killed. Right he was rush but c'mon he always been a smart ass, his death making look stupid after all he accomplish. Anyway i think the movie ruin the real end. I prefer thinking he had AT LEAST some peace before saying goodbye and more then a week if you know what i mean.

The end that air let us think that they all free but then when we saw the movie it broke all of that. Michael die as an enemy in prison, Sara will be on the hidind all of her life just like Lincoln and then they show us a video where Mike say that they all finally free, bull **** again. It was touching but not true. I don't know why Sucre still abble to live in the united state cause the wedding agent clearly saw the whole gang together planning the escape.

And they brought back Kellerman & C-note. Don't get me wrong i used to like thoses characters but was it really necessary to brought them back for 5 minutes. I was fine with the end of c-note and the end of K-man too. Bringing them back was annoying. If Michael had to die like many of you think in here, i think K-man should had stay dead and i think Mahone belong in the groung as well. He did kill people too to protect his family BUT hey innocent people have been killed .... IN THE GROUND MAHONE.

Well the writter said that Michael has to die cause he will never be abble to be happy. First they never let him the chance to be and second, stop with the ''someday'' ''we will survive'' '' i promise'' and put line to show that he has regrets. We heard it in season 2 sometimes but in season 4 pratically nothing. Anyway everyone has their own opinion and i think it's great but i will never change my mind about the end that i had so hope in. I've been disapointed big time. It was well writting but far from satisfying and bittersweet. It was simply BITTER.

Taffyx · 06-23-2009, 03:01 AM

Why didnt they show michael being carried out on a stretcher or something? Maybe they have left doors open?like someone else said on here no ones dead untill you see them not breathing!

steph4015 · 06-23-2009, 02:01 PM

T-bag fate will have been so much better if he was the one holdind the pocket loll.

NickyNoodle · 06-23-2009, 05:48 PM

Hmmm I liked the idea of the gang all together to watch the Generals execution! Now that would have been a stand up and clap moment! Hell for all we know he was being executed whilst Michael was doing his human electricity conducting and blew the chairs electrics and the General didnt get his execution! lol That power cut could have had many implications...

Still feel Michael should have been alive at the end.

cholapin · 06-23-2009, 11:04 PM

That is the writer's point but it is a very dumb one! "His saving of Lincoln brought on a number of deaths in its wake...". Yeah as can happen with anybody's actions in life in general. We cannot be responsible for every action that the people we interact with take following our interaction. Otherwise we would spend our time burduned and feeling guilty.

Besides, pushing that logic forward he did not just save Lincoln's life and bring the company down, he averted a war between India and China; thus saving literally millions of lives and averting an inevitable world war with possible nuclear consequences. Not to mention all the possible murders the company would have carried out routinely...

So now put that in the balance and tell me how this guy does not deserve to live happily ever after!?! If anyone does, it is him!

cholapin · 06-23-2009, 11:17 PM

I did not see "The Final Breakout", but the whole sacrifice thing because he was going to die of the tumor anyway is also totally stupid and makes no sense. So 20 years ago, when the procedure was 20 years less advanced (two or three lifetimes in medical terms) his mum had this procedure successfully and lived a long and ill deserved profitable life. Now, 20 years later, when we are 20 years more advanced and have better technology and a better understanding of this, the procedure is performed on Michael unsuccessfully! How does that make any sense?!

06-22-2009, 07:48 PM	#35
steph4015 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 310	Well a lot of people said that it was the only way the show could end. Well don't know but the perfect ending for be wound have been Sucre, Lincoln, Michael & Sara watching the general execution. He did include t-bag in the escape (not by choice but still) so technically yes he's responsible for T-bag victims until the end of season 2, but all of the others, Veronica, Nick Savrin the women in the wood (don't remember her name) Laticia i think, it's not Michael fault. They made their choice like helping Lincoln and saying the truth ... What pissed me off is that the show has been about family and seeking justice and the justice had not been made. Cause the minute they got exonorated, the fed still after them trying by any way to get to them again. Like the last episode has been nothing but cell phone talk and switching scylla between the general & the mother and then the big moment we were all waiting for four four year, last 2 minutes and then Michael grave. C'mon. And at the end the writters broke out some piece of the season one story like the mother real death reason. LIVER CANCER. Then they've come with that stupid idea of a brain tumor, they could at least bring that idea by making Lincoln and Michael completly unaware of the real reason of her death. But nop we see Lincoln talking about that with Sara in Las Vegas and then Michael when they come back. Bull **t. If they wanted to kill him, i will rather see him take a bullet then sacrifice himself BECAUSE he was going to die anyway. Cause if it never been around brain tumor and him dying soon he would had probably found another way to break her out without him getting killed. He broke out of two prison but he's not abble to open a dam door without been killed. Right he was rush but c'mon he always been a smart ass, his death making look stupid after all he accomplish. Anyway i think the movie ruin the real end. I prefer thinking he had AT LEAST some peace before saying goodbye and more then a week if you know what i mean. The end that air let us think that they all free but then when we saw the movie it broke all of that. Michael die as an enemy in prison, Sara will be on the hidind all of her life just like Lincoln and then they show us a video where Mike say that they all finally free, bull ** again. It was touching but not true. I don't know why Sucre still abble to live in the united state cause the wedding agent clearly saw the whole gang together planning the escape. And they brought back Kellerman & C-note. Don't get me wrong i used to like thoses characters but was it really necessary to brought them back for 5 minutes. I was fine with the end of c-note and the end of K-man too. Bringing them back was annoying. If Michael had to die like many of you think in here, i think K-man should had stay dead and i think Mahone belong in the groung as well. He did kill people too to protect his family BUT hey innocent people have been killed .... IN THE GROUND MAHONE. Well the writter said that Michael has to die cause he will never be abble to be happy. First they never let him the chance to be and second, stop with the ''someday'' ''we will survive'' '' i promise'' and put line to show that he has regrets. We heard it in season 2 sometimes but in season 4 pratically nothing. Anyway everyone has their own opinion and i think it's great but i will never change my mind about the end that i had so hope in. I've been disapointed big time. It was well writting but far from satisfying and bittersweet. It was simply BITTER. __________________

06-23-2009, 02:01 PM	#37
steph4015 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 310	T-bag fate will have been so much better if he was the one holdind the pocket loll. __________________

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06-10-2009, 02:21 PM	#32
PrisonBreak<3 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 19	About T-Bag I agree with JameDaTruth T-Bag should have been under more supervision in Prison for all of the things he did but the problem were the COs did not care so Michael is not a type that blames other people but blames himself he thought it was all his fault for every murder that T-Bag did even though it wasn't his fault. Now about Michael's death yes it was sad but it was the only way to end the show he lived his life for others and in the end he gave his life for others(Sara and his son).

06-20-2009, 06:27 AM	#33
humyra Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 10	definitely not dead. more could have been a great final. draw attention, but the screenwriter wanted .

06-22-2009, 06:29 AM	#34
wests_gf Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 10	one thing I've learnt about pb is that no one is ever dead until you see them dead. He's definitely still alive...so is the general. i read somewhere that the number of viewers decreased by a couple of million every season..which i have to say is understandable because they seasons did decline in quality/climax. especially season 4, i mean how many cell phones and guns were in that season? geesh. season 1 was definitely the best season. and i am sad to say but i really think this was the end of it. how many prisons can 1 guy break out of? just my 2 cents.

06-23-2009, 03:01 AM	#36
Taffyx Junior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 5	Why didnt they show michael being carried out on a stretcher or something? Maybe they have left doors open?like someone else said on here no ones dead untill you see them not breathing!

06-23-2009, 05:48 PM	#38
NickyNoodle Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 36	Hmmm I liked the idea of the gang all together to watch the Generals execution! Now that would have been a stand up and clap moment! Hell for all we know he was being executed whilst Michael was doing his human electricity conducting and blew the chairs electrics and the General didnt get his execution! lol That power cut could have had many implications... Still feel Michael should have been alive at the end.

06-23-2009, 11:04 PM	#39
cholapin Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2	That is the writer's point but it is a very dumb one! "His saving of Lincoln brought on a number of deaths in its wake...". Yeah as can happen with anybody's actions in life in general. We cannot be responsible for every action that the people we interact with take following our interaction. Otherwise we would spend our time burduned and feeling guilty. Besides, pushing that logic forward he did not just save Lincoln's life and bring the company down, he averted a war between India and China; thus saving literally millions of lives and averting an inevitable world war with possible nuclear consequences. Not to mention all the possible murders the company would have carried out routinely... So now put that in the balance and tell me how this guy does not deserve to live happily ever after!?! If anyone does, it is him!

06-23-2009, 11:17 PM	#40
cholapin Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2	I did not see "The Final Breakout", but the whole sacrifice thing because he was going to die of the tumor anyway is also totally stupid and makes no sense. So 20 years ago, when the procedure was 20 years less advanced (two or three lifetimes in medical terms) his mum had this procedure successfully and lived a long and ill deserved profitable life. Now, 20 years later, when we are 20 years more advanced and have better technology and a better understanding of this, the procedure is performed on Michael unsuccessfully! How does that make any sense?!