About the finale & Michael's death..

[Sonny]

Originally Posted by DramaDiva

Nope Sonny, in order to be certifiably insane as far as the judicial system is concerned , you have to not know the difference between right and wrong. I think TBag knows when he is doing something that it's wrong he just chooses not to care . He never does anything right ..lol..so that isn't an issue.

so he IS responsible for his actions and not Michael.

[DramaDiva]

Originally Posted by Sonny

so he IS responsible for his actions and not Michael.

Sure he is responsible for what he did. I never said he wasn't BUT Michael is also just as responsible, although indirectly. If not for Michael, TBag would have never been free to commit all the crimes he did . So, Mike is absolutely responsible and all that blood is on his hands......Nice try though.

[Sonny]

oh Drama, only T-Bag is responsible for his actions. No one else.

or would you also blame the victims because they let T-Bag kill them??

[DramaDiva]

You are reaching there Sonny with the victims comment. His victims did not let him escape Fox River . You can't compare the two as they are totally different. You gotta give me something better than that ....the whole 'he's responsible for his own action and no one else" isn't gonna work. Michael is responsible for his actions, please prove to me that he is not..you've gotta make a better argument than that. If I let my dog out and he bites some kid on the street , am I not responsible? I didn't do it the dog did .....but I did let the dog out. See where I am going with this ?

[Miladinka]

Originally Posted by DramaDiva

Sure he is responsible for what he did. I never said he wasn't BUT Michael is also just as responsible, although indirectly. If not for Michael, TBag would have never been free to commit all the crimes he did . So, Mike is absolutely responsible and all that blood is on his hands......Nice try though.

Michael is a little bit guilty because of T-Bag's escape, but he couldn't do anything to stop T-Bag from escaping! But just for escape and not for T-Bag's victims! I used word "guilty" as you see, because I don't consider that he's responsible. And he is not responsible for further events.
This is the almost same situation like this (for example):
It's early Spring and I'm a little bit cold.
I'm going to see with my friend in town.
We are walking and she wishes to eat an ice cream. She asking me if I want to, but I refuse, because I'm cold and if I ate ice cream my situation will be worse. But looking at that ice cream I can't resist and one minute after I'm holding ice cream in my hands. I ate it.
Day after, I'm waking up and I feel much worse. I'm more cold, that I was.
And the question is: Is it my friend's guilty that I'm more cold, then I was?

(I know this is banal example, but I couldn't find the better one).

[DramaDiva]

Originally Posted by Miladinka

Michael is a little bit guilty because of T-Bag's escape, but he couldn't do anything to stop T-Bag from escaping! But just for escape and not for T-Bag's victims! I used word "guilty" as you see, because I don't consider that he's responsible. And he is not responsible for further events.
This is the almost same situation like this (for example):
It's early Spring and I'm a little bit cold.
I'm going to see with my friend in town.
We are walking and she wishes to eat an ice cream. She asking me if I want to, but I refuse, because I'm cold and if I ate ice cream my situation will be worse. But looking at that ice cream I can't resist and one minute after I'm holding ice cream in my hands. I ate it.
Day after, I'm waking up and I feel much worse. I'm more cold, that I was.
And the question is: Is it my friend's guilty that I'm more cold, then I was?

(I know this is banal example, but I couldn't find the better one).

I don't even understand your ice cream analogy , so I am not going to address it. Michael is guilty for the escape therfore the blood from all TBags victims are on his hands. It's simple cause and effect , people. The cause ...Mike escapes with TBag ...the effect TBag gets free and kills people....that equals MIKE IS GUILTY OF THE MURDERS JUST THE SAME AS TBAG. Take Mike out of the equasion and where do we get ? TBag still in prison and having his merry band of childlike pocketholders.No innocent civilians harmed. I dunno how much more I can state my case. I think I have proved my point times over and all of you defending Mike have yet to prove yours.

[Sonny]

Originally Posted by DramaDiva

You are reaching there Sonny with the victims comment. His victims did not let him escape Fox River . You can't compare the two as they are totally different. You gotta give me something better than that ....the whole 'he's responsible for his own action and no one else" isn't gonna work. Michael is responsible for his actions, please prove to me that he is not..you've gotta make a better argument than that. If I let my dog out and he bites some kid on the street , am I not responsible? I didn't do it the dog did .....but I did let the dog out. See where I am going with this ?

and you can´t compare a dog with a human being. T-Bag is a human being and no animal. He knows what he´s doing. A dog just follows its instinct. A dog doesn´t know what´s wrong and right but human beings do.

[DramaDiva]

TBag is kinda like a dog, or animal if you will. He works almost solely on instinct. TBag doesn't think he just does. Why so you think he was always in so much trouble? He acts on instinct. My dog knows what's right and wrong. She knows not to pee in the house and that getting in the trash will get her in trouble. The only time she would attack someone is if they were attacking me or my family....so how is TBag different from a dog again ? You always choose to pick at the TBag parts of my statements . You wanna know why ? Because you know you can't prove that it's not Mikes fault.

[Sonny]

He belongs in a mental institution then. You can´t deny it, Drama. You said it yourself...he doesn´t act human. Let´s just hope he doesn´t get in the trash...

[DramaDiva]

If you want to think he belongs in a mental institution then fine, you believe that. He knows right from wrong ..lol...just like my dog does. It still doesn't take away from the fact that your precious hero is responsible for all the things he has done while outside the walls and on the run . That is why you have yet to prove to me that he isn't . Gimme something that points in the direction that Mike isn't responsible. You can't because you know just as I do had Mike not came to Fox River they would all be alive today.