Wentworth Miller

[Calena]

watchs SPN with hot Dean and PB with hot Mikey...

Oh, I can just picture it: candy telling us to vacuum our rooms at once and us moaning "but we are watching SPN- the ep where Sam's gone evil , we've seen it only 100 times, we can't vacuum right now"

Yesterday I watched the ep of Dark Angel where we see the Alec flashback, when Manticore had him go undercover as pinao teacher and kill this guy and his daughter, only Alec (or rather X5- whatever his number, can't remember it ) fell in love with the daughter and couldn't go through with it. Anyway, you see Jensen/Alec play the piano, and I never noticed before, but damn, he has big strong hands with long fingers

I also noticed that Jensen voice is a lot lower in SPN than it was in Dark Angel. Was he that much younger in DA that his voice has gotten lower (I like it!) or am I imagining things?

[helps]

Oh, I can just picture it: candy telling us to vacuum our rooms at once and us moaning "but we are watching SPN- the ep where Sam's gone evil , we've seen it only 100 times, we can't vacuum right now"

....exactly i can imagine that clearly..that´s typical for me,when mum wants help with something or when she wants to me clean something,i usually can´t do that,because i watch SPN or PB....it doesn´t mind that i´ve already watched that 100 times...i have to watch that again.......poor candy....she would have hard time with us...

Yesterday I watched the ep of Dark Angel where we see the Alec flashback, when Manticore had him go undercover as pinao teacher and kill this guy and his daughter, only Alec (or rather X5- whatever his number, can't remember it ) fell in love with the daughter and couldn't go through with it. Anyway, you see Jensen/Alec play the piano, and I never noticed before, but damn, he has big strong hands with long fingers

oh really?...i´ve never noticed that...in which ep it was?...i think i didnt watch all eps,because i havent working links...but it sounds great....jensen plays on piano...mmmmm....LOL!!!....big strong hands with long fingers...it sounds he´s perfect...

I also noticed that Jensen voice is a lot lower in SPN than it was in Dark Angel. Was he that much younger in DA that his voice has gotten lower (I like it!) or am I imagining things?

actually i dont remember that so much,but i think so that you´re right...he was younger that´s true...and maybe his voice was different......but in SPN,i love his voice......actually they both have great voices...they both speak understandable and i can enjoy that...

[candyrose]

Wow, candy, you must be exhausted emotionally as well as physically. Like helps I can't really understand that the doc didn't give him more medicine, to take when things got worse. How is the little guy doing now?

Yea, that's for sure. I swear so much was going on, and the kids were running around in the rain with barely any clothes on--all freaking out. I am having to chase them all down, while getting a hold of him and all that other stuff. It was so sad how he was freaking out, and the others kept making it worse, telling him he was going to die. He's doing better now. I am just glad they came and took him to the hospital...because although I think some of it was anxiety, there was something else seriously wrong with him. When I first got there, his eyes were so swollen...I don't understand why the doctor didn't do anything more and why she left in the first place. She told me it had been much worse earlier..his eye and the eyeball itself swollen out of his head a good inch. When they got him to the hospital, he had developed this rash all over his body and it was forming from the inside out. They still don't know what caused it, and I think they need to figure it out or something like this is going to happen again. He had to have been exposed to something.

I gotta look for the sheets - I printed your post - and go over it again ..... sorry!

on the cleaning issue: I have a room in this house and before I moved in I told my mum I wanted it to be my room. I guess you could call it messy, I have clothes, books, papers laying around. But I leave no mess in any other part of the house and I'm of the opinion that my room should be left alone and it can look as bad as I'm comfortable with. I have food up here to, but I won't let it come to maggots that I can assure you. My mum sadly although she has agreed to letting me have my privacy still barges in whenever she feels like it - serveral times a day - and nags me about cleaning, losing weight and saving money. That are her 3 main issues. Sometimes she whines about me not talking enough to her. But everytime I try the conversation, no matter what the issue it began with was, ends up with us disaggreing about at least one of the 3 main issues, so I avoid talking to her as much as I can.

Oh, ok, well at look forward to hopefully chatting a little bit today.

Your mother's concerns seem a bit typical, and I can understand where she is coming from on this one, but I really can't say how much cause there is for the concern because I don't know the situation at hand. As far as your room goes, it should be YOUR room. As long as it's not the point where I described earlier, it shouldn't be a problem. I mean, it isn't like she has to sit in it, and surely it's not a room guest frequent.

Again: EXACTLY. Like yours, my mum did that since I was in my teens. That was the main reason I moved out when I was 23. I didn't imagine I would ever have to move back in with her. It's probably god's way of showing me the middle finger for not believing in him!

I think some people take this sort of thing for granted...don't realize how lucky they are to have parents and the option of relying on them when they need some help or have to move back in. Again, I really can't make judgments on your situation, but there has to be some benefit if you are still there--at least financially. She could have been one of the types who simply said, "nope, you're own your own now....so deal with your own problems." This happens sometimes...ya know. I still feel bad that your relationship isn't any better...because you never know how long she will be around.

But I think with candy we are out of luck, she wants only tidy people or will drive us crazy with all her cleaning up after us

Wow, thanks...guess you skipped over the part where I said I usually keep my mouth shut and just do the cleaning....

[Calena]

They still don't know what caused it, and I think they need to figure it out or something like this is going to happen again. He had to have been exposed to something.

I hope they figure it out soon and it's nothing serious. Kind of like in House (do you watch that?) where it's often just a matter of figuring out what it is and getting the right meds and then everthing is shiny again.

As long as it's not the point where I described earlier, it shouldn't be a problem.

It's not that bad by a long shot.

I mean, it isn't like she has to sit in it, and surely it's not a room guest frequent.

On very rare occasion I have visitors over, but I cut that back to nearly zero. As even they are not her guests but mine and those people have visited me in my flat where it was a hundred times untidier than it's here and those people have lived thru that experience my mum's still whining about that I can't possibly let someone in my room. Her biggest concern is that I'll drop dead and she'll have to let people in to get my dead body and what would they think of the room. Bäh!

I think some people take this sort of thing for granted...don't realize how lucky they are to have parents and the option of relying on them when they need some help or have to move back in. Again, I really can't make judgments on your situation, but there has to be some benefit if you are still there--at least financially. She could have been one of the types who simply said, "nope, you're own your own now....so deal with your own problems." This happens sometimes...ya know. I still feel bad that your relationship isn't any better...because you never know how long she will be around.

Let's get one thing straight: Although my parents supported me finacially I could have made in on my own and I didn't move back in because of me. I moved in to help care for my sick Dad. The day my mother would tell me I'm on my own and quit the constant guilt - trip and let me live my own life I'd probably become a believer. But that's never going to happen.
It seems to be a "the grass is always greener" issue - thinking the opposite of the situtation you're in is best and the person being in the opposite situation thinking yours is best.
I finacially beneficial to live here of course, but the main reason I'm still here is because my mum would make me even more miserable if I moved out just to have a own life. As opposed to moving in with a boyfriend. I think getting together with a guy is really the only option for me to ever get out of here, because I'm just to weak to stand up to my mother.

Wow, thanks...guess you skipped over the part where I said I usually keep my mouth shut and just do the cleaning....

But candy, really: How fun do you think it would be for us to watch SPN or PB with you vacuuming and dusting and picking up clutter all around us, probably mumbling "lazy slobs" under your breath all the time! Look at it from our POV!

helps:
I forgot a points I wanted to make about Dark Angel: I know it's all about Max and Logan, but since Alec appeared I'm kind of rooting for Max and Alec to hook up. They would be perfect for each other!

The ep I spoke of was 2-11 The Berrisford Agenda
http://www.surfthechannel.com/info/t...171/S2E11.html
(don't know if it'll work)
I felt so sad for Alec, it almost had me in tears. And it made me love Jensen even more.

I would feel very bad about drooling about other guys in Went's very own thread. But Went is probably relieved he got at least one lunatic occupied otherwise for the time being.

[candyrose]

I hope they figure it out soon and it's nothing serious. Kind of like in House (do you watch that?) where it's often just a matter of figuring out what it is and getting the right meds and then everthing is shiny again.

I actually love that show....watch it as often as I can. Well, whatever it is...they need to get a hold of it and take preventative measures.

It's not that bad by a long shot.

Than you have nothing to worry about.....it's fine.

On very rare occasion I have visitors over, but I cut that back to nearly zero. As even they are not her guests but mine and those people have visited me in my flat where it was a hundred times untidier than it's here and those people have lived thru that experience my mum's still whining about that I can't possibly let someone in my room. Her biggest concern is that I'll drop dead and she'll have to let people in to get my dead body and what would they think of the room. Bäh!

Oh, she's the optimistic one, isn't she?? Geez, that is a bit much....Anyway, I get what you are saying; I am the same way....it's rare someone comes over, which is another reason why I am less of a cleaning lady when I live by myself.

Let's get one thing straight: Although my parents supported me finacially I could have made in on my own and I didn't move back in because of me. I moved in to help care for my sick Dad. The day my mother would tell me I'm on my own and quit the constant guilt - trip and let me live my own life I'd probably become a believer. But that's never going to happen.

It seems to be a "the grass is always greener" issue - thinking the opposite of the situtation you're in is best and the person being in the opposite situation thinking yours is best.
I finacially beneficial to live here of course, but the main reason I'm still here is because my mum would make me even more miserable if I moved out just to have a own life. As opposed to moving in with a boyfriend. I think getting together with a guy is really the only option for me to ever get out of here, because I'm just to weak to stand up to my mother.

For me, I think it's because of my experiences. I know so many younger people who complain about their parents and don't know how good they really have it--they take it for granted. Your situation is a little different, though. I remember you telling me before why you moved in, but I don't recall why you stayed after the fact. Anyway, these people have good jobs and could very well make it on their own, but they still live with their parents. They don't have to pay any rent or really any bills, so they are free to pretty much be as free with their money as possible. And then they always have someone there to take care of them when something goes really wrong.....I can understand where they are coming from; I was once in the position where I couldn't understand my own family and was frustrated by them. But, in retrospect, I can see I often over reacting to things. I think this is because I know what it's like to be on my own, to have responsibilities, and to be responsible for taking care of another human being. I also know what it is like to be the one who takes care of everything, while the other person doesn't do anything. People have lived here before, with me, and they didn't do anything. They never lifted a finger around here, they didn't work, and they didn't contribute financially in any way. I pretty much did everything by myself...and it's not always easy. There are things you want to do, but can't because you have to do other things....there are also nice things you want to buy for yourself, but you can't because you are paying someone else's way and have to think before making large purchases. And for me, I don't have the luxury of having parents...I couldn't just say, "hey, I can't take care of this by myself...I need to take a break and get my act together...can I move in with you?" Don't get me wrong, from what you have described, it sounds like she gives you a really hard time, which is a bit much on her part. It also sounds like she doesn't want you to grow up and be an adult...she wants you there....but I am just speaking generally here, based on others I know...and how my view has shifted a bit. And, I wouldn't say my view is the best...just that I have been on both sides of the table, so I understand where each person would be coming from....so I am in the middle on this one. I don't think anyone should be nagged to death and constantly criticized....I think it can be too much at times...but I also think the other person should show some appreciation and respect...contribute in some way....the way they keep their room is their business...but the rest of it...the rest of the house...they should at least make an effort not to mess it up so someone else has to go after them and clean it....
You have a boyfriend?? You think that's the only way you would get out?? That doesn't sound good. It reminds me of the girls I have known who thought marriage was their only option to be free from their parents and have their own lives...not that you'll get married or anything...If it's bothering you that much and you can make it on your own, I would just decided to make this move....even if it causes some strife. Yes, you may get some hell from her...but you won't be around all the time to hear it...you want have to wake up to it each morning and constantly have her standing over your shoulder...but this is just me...

But candy, really: How fun do you think it would be for us to watch SPN or PB with you vacuuming and dusting and picking up clutter all around us, probably mumbling "lazy slobs" under your breath all the time! Look at it from our POV!

Oh, come on...you know I would be right there, watching PB with you guys...geez....I really feel the love today, and dammit I needed it after such a ****ty week...one thing after another...oh, calena...we are drifting apart and my heart can't take it...Oh, how I miss you and the way things used to be....LOL

[helps]

I actually love that show....watch it as often as I can. Well, whatever it is...they need to get a hold of it and take preventative measures.

wow girlies...you both watch House?....he´s just perfect...i can´t watch that when mum is at TV,because she doesn´t like him...i dont understand her..he´s great and love his dry humor...but mum thinks that he´s some cruel crazy doctor who is addicted on pills...actually i think that House only pretend that he is insensitive and that he is enough sensitive....in some eps i saw that he can be really caring and maybe that he´s more sensitive than others...and how i don´t llike doctors,i think that he´s perfect and try to care about patients as good as he can...

But candy, really: How fun do you think it would be for us to watch SPN or PB with you vacuuming and dusting and picking up clutter all around us, probably mumbling "lazy slobs" under your breath all the time! Look at it from our POV!

Oh, come on...you know I would be right there, watching PB with you guys..

so good....calena now we satisfy candy that she wouldnt clean flat,but instead she would watch PB with us...so now we just have to satisfy her that SPN is great,too...lol

helps:
I forgot a points I wanted to make about Dark Angel: I know it's all about Max and Logan, but since Alec appeared I'm kind of rooting for Max and Alec to hook up. They would be perfect for each other!

The ep I spoke of was 2-11 The Berrisford Agenda
http://www.surfthechannel.com/info/t...171/S2E11.html
(don't know if it'll work)
I felt so sad for Alec, it almost had me in tears. And it made me love Jensen even more.

I would feel very bad about drooling about other guys in Went's very own thread. But Went is probably relieved he got at least one lunatic occupied otherwise for the time being.

yea exactly...actually i´ve never been impressed by Logan...and when Alec appeared the same as you i was just wishing to he would has something with Max...they´re similar so i think that they could be great couple...
so i probably didnt watch this ep...i should watch DA again,but now i have to catch up SPN...but i can imagine how Jensen could make you sad about him...when i saw 20eps of 2nd season SPN,so it had me in tears...you know ep when Dean´s wish was executed and there was their mother,jessica etc...and poor Dean seemed to me so happy and at the same time confused...

aah..i know that it´s not fair to Went,talking about other guys in his very own thread...but i think that he can forgive us..^^^

[smileyone]

Hello all
Smiley's back.... and boy did she really miss all this!!!
I got a call from my mate whilst in work yesterday morning.... her young lad decided to take a dive out of a tree [out of his self made treehouse]... and somehow managed to hit every single branch on the way down... cracking open his sternum... cracking ribs... pulling stomach muscles etc...etc...etc.... so As she had to make an emergency dash to the hospital... I had to take care of her other three kids for the day and night!!! I stayed over... she got back this morning!!! As her computer is down.... I found myself having severe buddytv withdrawal symptoms.... I did manage, however, to watch a full 15 eps of S1 of 24!!! Managed to get it out of the library for next two weeks for next to nothing!!!
I get back here.... and I find myself having about 50 new pages to read in each thread!!! Wow... you girls have been very busy!!!
Missed you all though!!!
Today.... I managed to watch most of pilot ep of SPN.... before I somehow lost the link! Anyway.... It will be my new project for now... catching up to date with this show!!! I really am not sure if 24 is hitting me like I thought it would!!! I left it over in my friends house .... she's going to have a lot of sitting down in house time this next while looking after her young lad!!!

So then..... as my head is so full of 24 show details at the moment.... what did I miss on here the last 24 hours????? [Like how Smiley did that one folks]????

[Calena]

Hey, welcome back smiley, I missed you! Wow - seems to be a bad weekends for kids!
Like you I wasn't overwhelmed by 24. Back when it aired it sure was the greatest most original thing on TV, but after having seen PB I can't exactly say the suspense of 24 is killing me! But I did like S2 better.
Please do continue to watch SPN!

Oh, come on...you know I would be right there, watching PB with you guys...geez....I really feel the love today, and dammit I needed it after such a ****ty week...one thing after another...oh, calena...we are drifting apart and my heart can't take it...Oh, how I miss you and the way things used to be....LOL

Ah candy, I'm just teasing you! Of course you would watch PB with us and helps and I would bring you to love SPN too!
I love you candy!

I remember you telling me before why you moved in, but I don't recall why you stayed after the fact.

Officially because it makes sense financially and my mother requires me to drive her around and help her with the dog (the only thing we have in common is the love for that dog). The real reason is that she is afraid of being alone and won't let me go because of this, imo.
No, I don't have a boyfriend and don't worry I won't throw myself at the first random jerk who comes along. Maybe someday I'll find the guts to stand up to my mother and move out like not only you but also my friends R (the ex) and E. are constantly telling me.

I can see how having a parent you can rely on in a crisis and stands by you and supports you is appealing. But that's really not the way it is here. Despite that I can understand you are mad at people who have such nice parents and are simply ungrateful selfish jerks.
A colleauge of mine, a very spiritual person, believes in reincarnation and so she tells me I'm paying for selfishness and bad deeds of past lives. Wow, I must have been a dictator or something! Ok, I'll quit the whining now.

on House: I love Greg House and I find him very sexy, although I think I'll run screaming in the other direction if I'd ever encounter him. I don't like docs to begin with and a mean, sarcastic doc would have in tears, no matter how vulnerable he might be deep inside. Nevertheless I watch the show just because of the character of House, his great lines and how brilliantly they are delivered by the actor. The stories themselves are always the same and got me a bit bored to be honest. Come to think of it, I really don't watch any "case to case" shows with no bigger story arcs to speak of. House is a bit CSI-like isn't it?

[helps]

hey smiley.....welcome back...oh...sorry about lad...this weekend really isn´t favourable for children...hope that he´s alright now...it sounded bad with him...so you spent a few hours with Jack Bauer...lol...nice time wasnt it...agree with calena you should continue to watch SPN....actually after watch all eps of 3rd season,im going to watch SPN again from season 1,too...i forgot some details...
i missed you,too smiley.....i started to be worry about you...

Nevertheless I watch the show just because of the character of House, his great lines and how brilliantly they are delivered by the actor. The stories themselves are always the same and got me a bit bored to be honest.

exactly as you...have to agree....actually i´never like shows set in hospital etc...i always liked criminal stories...

[smileyone]

Originally Posted by helps

hey smiley.....welcome back...oh...sorry about lad...this weekend really isn´t favourable for children...hope that he´s alright now...it sounded bad with him...so you spent a few hours with Jack Bauer...lol...nice time wasnt it...agree with calena you should continue to watch SPN....actually after watch all eps of 3rd season,im going to watch SPN again from season 1,too...i forgot some details...
i missed you,too smiley.....i started to be worry about you...

He's AJ's mate... he is home from hospital now.... struggling a bit at the moment... kids love to jump about everywhere... and for the next while he has been banned from moving about much at all!!! He's already bored out of his mind.... We here in UK use another sililiar phrase to describe being so bored.... we say...'Bored out of our tree' ... ... Somehow.... this doesn't sound so apt on this occasion!!! It's really funny though... cause both he and all the reast of the kids, including AJ swing out of this tree practically every single day of the week.... they are forever falling head first out of it.... and til yesterday... we have not ever had even one tear!!!! Talk about going from 0 to 60 in the space of a few seconds!!!!
Anyway, the rest of them , including my sons injured friend are pretty p****d with us cause we have banned them from playing on the tree until we try and make it a bit more safer!!! IMO... we can't really ban them for good off the thing.... they need to be able to take some risks in life... have some childhood fun... that doesn't involve sitting in a sterile room with a box of crayons and some paper.... !!!

Yes.... I am going to start watching SPN.... I like what I have seen so far!!! It looks like a pretty good show!!!

exactly as you...have to agree....actually i´never like shows set in hospital etc...i always liked criminal stories...

ER has always been my favourite of all the hospital dramas..... if I were to watch them..... however, House is another really good one!!! Hugh Laurie is an excellent actor!!!

On funnier side.... he was originally a british comedian of sorts.... did some british shows some years back... 'A Bit Of Fry & Laurie' [with Stephen Fry] was one that comes to mind.... and 'Jeeves & Wooster' was another... again I believe with Stephen Fry..... I was never that big a fan of this stuff.... it was very much hit or miss with most!!! Although... I think he is just perfect in his role as House!!!

Hello Mr. M
And how are you today???
Hope you didn't miss Smiley too much when she was away!!!
Are you back from Israel yet then??? You must be back by now!!! Did you ever drop by Lala's office with that sandwich and that freezing cold can of coke..... like Smiley told you to???
anyway..... you be good and keep smiling