Wentworth Miller

[helps]

@helps
Ok then.... I'm actually not on side of believing any of this particular lot of gossip.... Rumours are about them meeting on a plane and 'getting busy' in the loo's (toilets) while in mid flight!!! That's it ... basically.... a big rumour.... that's it!!! [I don't know if you know the term... 'MILE HIGH CLUB' but it means ''having sex while flying in air''... basically...) We were just having a bit of fun with it.... we then spoke about the actor Colin Farrell.... We sort of stopped mid way through that chat as we were all online too long and needed a break!!! LOL!!! IMO, ( In my opinion/what I think).... this is lots of rubbish.... no big truth in it... we had fun chatting about it though!!! The girl... Nadine is a singer in a UK based all girl band called Girls Aloud.... Why don't you google it in to get some more information! Does that answer any more of your questions or make it any easier to understand our previous posts!!!

Glad you are learning english.... Although, I understood perfectly what you meant to say in your post....better english for this phrase ''so i thought you can lighten up it for me'' would be.... '' So I thought you could enlighten me''..... less words for you to write.... Hope you don't mind me telling you that!!!

thank you...now i understand...thanks for phrase i´ll be happy when you´ll sometimes rectify my mistakes

basically we are debating the authenticity of Weenieworth......Is he the good guy so many believe him to be? Or is he more deceptive and a bad boy????

thanks Candy..and what is the corrolary?

[Calena]

Come on candy, are you going all puritanical on me?
I haven't read the article of course, but smiley tells us Blondie in question isn't married. Even if she was, it was her decision to cheat on her husband, unless you think Went raped her. She's 23, that's over ten years younger than he is, but she's legal!
Did the article say people actually saw them? Didn't they close the door of the toilet?
In which magazine have you read that article, one that you trust or some yellow press?

[helps]

i dont know much about it but i dont believe that

[smileyone]

Originally Posted by Calena

smiley, you can't vote unless someone votes after you. A mere "hello" doesn't cut it!

Ahh hell Calena..... You T-Bag fans are so anal about rules!!!!!
You are all so funny!!!

Back on thread... Why are we so hung up on this plane toilet sex thing??? LOL!!!... It ain't all it's cracked up to be anyway....
There's no room to swing a cat round in one of those things... and the involuntary noises the loo keeps spitting up at you in mid flight..... you'd swear that they are haunted!!! Seriously.... I can't see Nadz doing that... esp not her... lol!!! No!!! Can't see him either.... but then ... I suppose... most of my friends would say.... I wouldn't do it either.... ok.... LOL!!! I'll stop now cause...I can't offer up any more on the subject!!!!

[Calena]

Has candy disappeared on us again?
Looks like she's the one who doesn't love us anymore.

[smileyone]

Originally Posted by Calena

Has candy disappeared on us again?
Looks like she's the one who doesn't love us anymore.

Yeah... Where is Miss Candy disappeared off to again??? LOL!! The pure inticipation of me wearing just my specs must have been too much for her!!! LOL!!!

[candyrose]

No, I am not going all "puritanical" on you....I am merely trying to have the discussion that I've always been trying to have: The construct of a celeb's image, how closely that correlates to reality, and how the fan plays into it. To be honest, my opinion on his actions is irrelevant...it doesn't affect the intended path of this discussion. I am merely pointing out a few facts and trying to, in a sense, play devil's advocate. It isn't so much a question of is he or isn't he a bad boy....it's more about how closely reality correlates with his image...and how the deconstruction of this image would affect fan's perceptions of him. If I were to go deeply into this, it would take far longer to type up than I feel like doing at the present moment, and given that my point has not been taken, I really don't know if it would be worth it.
If you want my opinion on the act itself, I really can't be the one to judge the situation fairly because I was not there.....although that doesn't mean I don't have my own take and thoughts

[candyrose]

Originally Posted by Calena

Come on candy, are you going all puritanical on me?
I haven't read the article of course, but smiley tells us Blondie in question isn't married. Even if she was, it was her decision to cheat on her husband, unless you think Went raped her. She's 23, that's over ten years younger than he is, but she's legal!
Did the article say people actually saw them? Didn't they close the door of the toilet?
In which magazine have you read that article, one that you trust or some yellow press?

How to we, in society, perceive men who philander with much younger women??? Society usually doesn't think very highly of them, and with that being the case, does this judgement extend to celebrities? Or do celebs have some sort of ticket they get once they reach a certain status which renders them unaccountable for their actions?? Do we put them in such high regard, elevate them to the point where they reach demi-god status, that we feel they deserve the things we don't?

[Calena]

.it's more about how closely reality correlates with his image...

True. But what I'm trying to say is that this one slip up (even if it's true which we don't know) doesn't mean that the good boy image he created is all BS.

How to we, in society, perceive men who philander with much younger women???Society usually doesn't think very highly of them,...

You think so? If he were 60 and she 20 yes, that would raise my eyebrow. I don't think 35-23 to be that big an age gap.
I'm not under the impression that society shuns 50 years old men who divorce their women to get themselves a 25 year old girl, so I can't follow you on your point that celebs are getting away with anything in that respect.
Generally it may well be true, that celebs have advantages us mere mortal don't.

Sadly I've got to go now, more later.

[candyrose]

I think people are beginning to think I am bashing him a bit, which is not the case. I'm trying to have an objective conversation in which all angles and perspectives are explored. As far as it ruining his image, I'm not saying this one incident has the power to do that. However, it's not just a matter of having casual sex with some younger stranger; it's someone who was also in a commited relationship. I think everyone should have the freedom to live the lifestyle of thier choosing. No one should feel restrained in any way shape or form. Sex is fun; sex is good. However, I think that there is a point where it does cross the line...at least for me. When you knowningly drag someone else into the situation and/or it affects another in a negative way, then this poses some problems. If she had been single, then I would have an enitrely different opinion on the matter. But still, although this conversation was sparked by Weenieworth's encounter with her, I am trying to speak about celebs in general. I am not trying to point him out. And regarding what you said about older men divorcing women in order to date younger ones, this isn't generally accepted in society...or at least highly regarded. However, I was speaking of the ones who live a certain lifestyle....and who willingly and knowingly engage with others when they are already married and/or the other person is married. Really, I was trying to speak broadly. Perhaps, this is my fault because I have not articulated my point well enough....maybe I should have done a better job and been more precise in my posts.