US Politics?

[tailhook]

Originally Posted by hlyons

Very funny!!!!!!

Ya..meant to say Des Plaines. Silly Chicago suburbs can just sort of mix and match them. My bad!

-TH

[Gartism]

LOL - Obama was asked if Bill was the "1st Black President".

His response was even funnier

[clueless1der]

Edwards had a few funnies too. Not in the "brothaah" category... but not bad.

[RichPundit]

My latest political rant ... tx for listening:

Both Hillary and McCain earned powerful NYTimes endorsements, and they both also lead in national polls albeit with Mitt Romney still somewhat alive. Guiliani is done, particularly with the latest judgment blast by a newly released NYPD confidential memo strongly against the plush Twin Towers bunker location (23rd floor) which Guiliani arrogantly ignored. The NYFD already publicly opposes Guiliani for his pre & post-9/11 behaviours. Obama's charisma and message remain very strong, but his capabilities to achieve are clearly unlikely since loong time entrenched politics would ignore him, as well as both his non-experience and limited/weak track record, even laziness (e.g., voted "Present" 151 times).

Most interesting to me is the complete meltdown of the Republican Party with no one associating or supporting the past 12 years of Republican rule and behaviours, particularly Bush's 7 years. Most astounding are the blatant trashings of the clear core Republican record on the economy, defense/security, values, corruption, conservatism, foreign policy, spending, management, and on and on. Loong time, stalwart, core Republicans are now publicly, nastily trashing loong time Republican behaviours including Reagan Special Advisor Peggy Noonan, ex-Bush speech writer, NYTimes David Brooks, WashPost George Will, Chicago Tribune Bob Novak, Weekly Standard William Kristol, Pat Buchanan, Newt Gingrich, and even new young bride toy/drug addict Rush Limbaugh. And, they all nastily trash the current Republican candidates.

I favour almost all of the key stated Republican principles, but we all see what they actually did when elected!

Our next elected American Leaders, particularly President Hillary/VP Richardson, will inherit an untenable, complete global and domestic mess for which we, our next generation, and seniors will unfortunately pay dearly.

Whew! Tx again for listening - RichPundit

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Originally Posted by RichPundit

Most interesting to me is the complete meltdown of the Republican Party with no one associating or supporting the past 12 years of Republican rule and behaviours, particularly Bush's 7 years. Most astounding are the blatant trashings of the clear core Republican record on the economy, defense/security, values, corruption, conservatism, foreign policy, spending, management, and on and on. Loong time, stalwart, core Republicans are now publicly, nastily trashing loong time Republican behaviours including Reagan Special Advisor Peggy Noonan, ex-Bush speech writer, NYTimes David Brooks, WashPost George Will, Chicago Tribune Bob Novak, Weekly Standard William Kristol, Pat Buchanan, Newt Gingrich, and even new young bride toy/drug addict Rush Limbaugh. And, they all nastily trash the current Republican candidates.

We need Hillary in office so that the American Public can truly see what happens when a weak leader gets elected. Here's a clue.. if you let your own husband use you to wipe his feet on.. what do you think countries like Iran and North Korea will do? I don't necessarily support a lot of what went on in the past 7 years but for better or worse there is no denying that there was clear cut leadership and a plan.

Originally Posted by RichPundit

Our next elected American Leaders, particularly President Hillary/VP Richardson, will inherit an untenable, complete global and domestic mess for which we, our next generation, and seniors will unfortunately pay dearly.

Oh w/e... there is nothing untenable about it. Welcome to the NFL, rookie. If she can't handle it she shouldn't be running.. and if she were dumb enough to bring a tool like Richardson we probably don't even have to worry about her winning.

-TH

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WTG South Carolina :>.

Hillary Clinton got absolutely trucked. One can only hope this provides the needed momentum for Obama to get a good portion of the states(or all) and majority of the delegates come Super Tuesday. His victory speech absolutely owned. They then showed her talking in Nashville and man does he make her look small.

If he can get this rock up the hill and convince the Democrats not to eat from the big can of Stupid that is Hillary... he's going to take everything but the kitchen sink come the General Election.

Just ask a republican who they'd rather get the nomination. It aint Obama. As a republican.. if it is Obama.. there is a fair segment that will vote for him over any Republican candidate. I know because as i've said before in this thread.. i'm one.

-TH

[RichPundit]

WOW TailHook, love your high energy political rants! My wife made a weekend pot of great chicken soup. Wish I could share it with you and several of my close friends because this political year will be very intense as political and performance leadership realities become even more obvious. "Just the facts Ma'am".

To help keep this Thread both TTS fun and friendly, not personal, please remember that I am truly an Independent who voted for Bush ... the first time. His obvious 1st term poor performance caused me to vote differently my next opportunity, the Republicans won, and look what we continue to have today on every issue.

South Carolina. I watched Fox News after my regular "Beltway Boys" political rants with rabid conservative Fred Barnes. Fred was one of the few political pundits recently selected for a private dinner with Bush. Disappointing how Fox gleefully pumped up the possible disasterous 3rd place showing of Hillary ... "Fair and Balanced?". No question disingenuous and fearful "Ostrich" Republicans prefer Obama ... the Patriots much prefer the Giants to the Packers. However, while I support both my local Packers and my Jersey Giants, as I previously posted, I can't support Obama.

I totally agree that President Hillary's leadership and plan would differ greatly from loong time Republican rule. She would not have allowed known 9/11 terrorist leader and planner Bin Laden to secure and GROW himself in Pakistan. Pakistan is decades-long ruled by a dictatorship from a military coup, the only Islamic government with proven nuclear weapons, and the world's largest purchaser of military hardware ... most of it provided by the Bush administration, much with US taxpayer funding. Bush is now offering Pakistan another $100 million in military assistance.

Next, President Hillary would not have militarily attacked and occupied Iran's #1 enemy Iraq knowing they're enemies and their recent 7-year war, and replace the brutal minority Sunni Saddam government with a brutal majority Shiite government that is openly allied with Shiite Iran. The current US-propped Iraqi Prime Minister Maliki traveled to Iran with hugs & kisses, and recently invited the Iranian Defense Minister to Iraq. The measureable cost estimated by our Republican White House is $1,000,000,000 thru 2008, with expected twice that if we elect another Republican. The HUGE cost to human life/limb, our hobbled defense forces, global security, infrastructure, global alliances, etc. is incalcuable. Great Republican leadership and plan ... eh?

There is a reason why only US Republicans loudly support Bush leadership adventures that almost exclusively burden we Americans ... they are clearly not smart. Plus now, key Republicans like the Wall Street Journal last week, Guiliani, Podhortez (March), and several others are screaming to bomb Iran while acknowledging (!) the "likely resulting global economic catastrophe". They incredibly state that it's easily worth it. Bombing Iran is both outrageous and stupid.

There are many, many more examples of failed leadership and planning, both domestic and foreign, but we all know that blood pressures suffer in the face of unsupporting facts, i.e., "Cognitive Dissonance".

Tx for kindly listening to my political rants, and I look forward to Republican redemption. Namaste - rich

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Originally Posted by RichPundit

WOW TailHook, love your high energy political rants!

Viva La Revolucion! Or.. something like that

Originally Posted by RichPundit

South Carolina. I watched Fox News after my regular "Beltway Boys" political rants with rabid conservative Fred Barnes. Fred was one of the few political pundits recently selected for a private dinner with Bush. Disappointing how Fox gleefully pumped up the possible disasterous 3rd place showing of Hillary ... "Fair and Balanced?". No question disingenuous and fearful "Ostrich" Republicans prefer Obama ...

Ostrich? Lol.. I have my head way out of the sand. As per being disingenuous? So you're hearing the message but think i'm putting you on? That i'm saying Obama cause in actuality I think he can't win and by offering him up it helps the Republicans? Its amazing how dense some democrats can get. You finally get the candidate of a lifetime. The right man, at the right place, at the right time to run the table and sell every program and idea you want... and you don't even realize it. You're too busy trying to put forth the institutional candidate which if elected would only gridlock this country another 4 years.

Republicans have absolutely 0 fear of Hillary. Shes been a known quantity for 15 years now and its not like she hasn't been on the ass end of a beating by us before when democrats controlled both the presidency and both houses of Congress.

For this election to truly matter a landslide has to be pulled in order to generate a mandate. Congress isn't going to overhaul entire sections of the economy based on some slim electoral vote win. There must be general consensous. I don't see Hillary pulling a landslide... Obama could easily.

Originally Posted by RichPundit

the Patriots much prefer the Giants to the Packers.

Are you actually comparing the Republicans to the Patriots?

Originally Posted by RichPundit

However, while I support both my local Packers and my Jersey Giants, as I previously posted, I can't support Obama.

Is it simply because you think he can't win?

Originally Posted by RichPundit

I totally agree that President Hillary's leadership and plan would differ greatly from loong time Republican rule. She would not have allowed known 9/11 terrorist leader and planner Bin Laden to secure and GROW himself in Pakistan.

How? Would she have perpetuated false information and authorized an invasion of Pakistan? Cause short of that.. i'm not sure what you think she can do.

Originally Posted by RichPundit

Pakistan is decades-long ruled by a dictatorship from a military coup, the only Islamic government with proven nuclear weapons, and the world's largest purchaser of military hardware ... most of it provided by the Bush administration, much with US taxpayer funding. Bush is now offering Pakistan another $100 million in military assistance.

The devil you know is better than the devil you don't. You would have to be deaf, dumb, and crazy to see Musharaaf gone and have that country and its crazy politics fall into god knows whose hands.

Originally Posted by RichPundit

Next, President Hillary would not have militarily attacked and occupied Iran's #1 enemy Iraq knowing they're enemies and their recent 7-year war, and replace the brutal minority Sunni Saddam government with a brutal Shiite government that is openly allied with Shiite Iran. The current US-propped Iraqi Prime Minister Maliki traveled to Iran with hugs & kisses, and recently invited the Iranian Defense Minister to Iraq. The measureable cost estimated by our Republican White House is $1,000,000,000 thru 2008, with expected twice that if we elect another Republican.

I think you missed 3 zeroes there sir. The USFG doesn't get out of bed for $1 billion US.

Originally Posted by RichPundit

There is a reason why only US Republicans loudly support Bush leadership adventures that almost exclusively burden we Americans ... they are clearly not smart.

Only time will tell if they were actually able to pull it off. 6 months ago the consensus is no. Currently with the surge its maybe. The situation will have to play itself out. Whichever president that gets in there is going to have a real gut check pulling troops if they're showing concrete progress and a constant strengthening of the Iraqi government.

Originally Posted by RichPundit

Plus now, key Republicans like the Wall Street Journal last week, Guiliani, Podhortez (March), and several others are screaming to bomb Iran while acknowledging (!) the "likely resulting global economic catastrophe". They incredibly state that it's easily worth it. Bombing Iran is both outrageous and stupid.

Bombing any country never did anything to take it over and I don't care who you are you would have to be deaf, dumb, and stupid to invade Iran. The terrain and thousands of years of history are against you.

Originally Posted by RichPundit

Tx for kindly listening to my political rants, and I look forward to Republican redemption. Namaste - rich

NP man.

-TH

[Gartism]

I think there will be a very driven political turnout in November...even if it's just "to vote AGAINST someone".

Going to be an ugly day

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Originally Posted by Gartism

I think there will be a very driven political turnout in November...even if it's just "to vote AGAINST someone".

Going to be an ugly day

I think it will be a quite beautiful day... with the first black man in history being elected president by the widest electoral margin ever. And that includes Reagan over Mondale in '84.

-TH