KAKASHI vs. SASUKE

[Macdaddyo]

	you know what, no one really knows I geuss. The facts are not necassarily rite out there, it is like a 50-50 argument, I'm not going to lie. There is reasonable evidence for both sides. And as I said in last post, I dont really think this debate can end anyways.

[Neji Hyuga]

	Exactly my point, until ViZ comes out and say it no can know for sure.

[Macdaddyo]

	OMG, We now know!!!! check this episode. This is after kakashi saw chidori used as nagashi. This proves chidori is different from raikiri. The first stage of chidori was not full elemental recompensation, as sasuke progressed during time skip he learned nagashi, wich was full elemental recompensation. This means raikiri was not made by cutting a bolt of lightning, it was made by full elemental recompensation. Finally proved my point. YAY

[treak13]

	yeah kakashi never said he cut through lightning to get it...gai said they said kakashi cut through lightning.

[Neji Hyuga]

	He said Kakashi calls Chidori "Raikiri" because of a story about him cutting a lightning bolt in that episode

[Dragonus Nesha]

	Originally Posted by Neji Hyuga He said Kakashi calls Chidori "Raikiri" because of a story about him cutting a lightning bolt in that episode No, it's where Kakashi got the name for the elementally manipulated form of Chidori.

[treak13]

	Originally Posted by Dragonus Nesha No, it's where Kakashi got the name for the elementally manipulated form of Chidori. yeah...the story about cutting lightning wasnt told by kakashi. Gai said and i quote "They call it lightning blade because they said kakashi cut through a bolt of lightning with it". Thats a romor. There is different was to master different elements like Raikiri Expload.

[Dragonus Nesha]

	Actually, it seems Chidori and Raikiri are both Lightning chakra. Yet, I think Raikiri is spatially recomposed into a blade. This says that Chidori is Lightning chakra: http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaRet...&PhotoID=41531 It also has the upgraded wheel of chakra, showing what beats what. Lightning chakra, oddly enough, beats Earth chakra.

[treak13]

	Originally Posted by Dragonus Nesha Actually, it seems Chidori and Raikiri are both Lightning chakra. Yet, I think Raikiri is spatially recomposed into a blade. This says that Chidori is Lightning chakra: http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaRet...&PhotoID=41531 It also has the upgraded wheel of chakra, showing what beats what. Lightning chakra, oddly enough, beats Earth chakra. i hate that wheel cause it doesnt prove anything. Wat about lightning vs water and fire vs lightning. Wat about wind vs earth and wind vs ___. <--some random element And the chart is imcomplete because of kekkai genkai. Wat about wood--lightning took out wood. And ice. Smoke/smog. Iron/metal. Mud.

[Neji Hyuga]

	Unfortunately nothing can really be proven in things like this beacause it's not real so there is no absolute proof of anything