Who is Jacob?? I think ive got it figured out!

[jackinthegreen11]

This was my idea... maybe jacob is almost like a position... of control. and when there is no one in control the island takes control.... thats why "jacob" appeared as a shadow.... and as dr. shepard. i thought maybe ben and charles are fighting for that position.. but the island doesn't want either.. it wants locke. thats why it appeared to locke, and ben knew that. ben, though he cares about the island, still appears to have his own agenda. idk... what do you think?

[toddG]

First of all, while Alpert would seem like the wise elderstatesmen that would fit the criteria needed to be the "god" of the Island. I have my doubts that he is the one. First of all, One thing we know about alpert is that every time we see him he is the same age. I know that the creators could work around this, but why? The Jacob that the audience is familiar with is an old bearded man. My guess is it is someone who knows a little bit about the future, yet fearful of technology. I don't disagree that richard could still fall into this category, however; I tend to think like I am the writer rather than the viewer. Honestly there is nothing sexy about making Carbenell out to be Jacob. This is an actor who just recently rejoined the cast. he left to join the show Cane last year. at the time Jacob was introduced, he was likely not going to be around for the following season.
Like most of the "ghosts" on and off the island, Jacob and his cabin has the ability to disapear (and re-apearing) in front of the assumed living. This would seam to mean he is a Glitch in time. When we saw Horace talking to Locke it was like a virtual recording of time. he had the ability to know that he was dead, yet it seemed like a broken record and it went back to its origin. The Character that is Jacob would likely fall into a similar category. A person wise enough to direct the people visiting him but not capable of controlling the future. another variable is that he can only be seen by by people that believe (crazy by realty standards). so the true Jacob may not be revealed until one of our characters (Jack, Sawyer, Desmond, Sayid?) accepts him as reality. I don't Have a clue Who Jacob Will be, but If I was one of the writers I would make it one of the original cast members. Here is a crazy thought that I have not heard yet. Charlie is Jacob.

[lost_grrl]

Originally Posted by erikau

Jacob is Hanso, who calls himself Charles Widmore in the future. Widmore is pissed because his star pupil, Ben Linus, learned too well and was able to take away some of his power. Widmore needs to get back now and take back his Island.

I like this idea. It makes a lot of sense, especially considering the whole "Help Me" thing that Jacob told Locke and Ben didn't hear....but...

Originally Posted by jackinthegreen11

This was my idea... maybe jacob is almost like a position... of control. and when there is no one in control the island takes control.... thats why "jacob" appeared as a shadow.... and as dr. shepard. i thought maybe ben and charles are fighting for that position.. but the island doesn't want either.. it wants locke. thats why it appeared to locke, and ben knew that. ben, though he cares about the island, still appears to have his own agenda. idk... what do you think?

This is something that I mentioned a little bit ago...that "Jacob" is a title, rather than one person, and that the identity of "Jacob" changes over time, making Locke the next "Jacob", Ben the former "Jacob", along with possibly Widmore, or Alpert.

[sugarnuts]

Jacob could be just a title, i could see that. But the question as to 'who' Jacob is could have the simplest answer: We've never seen him before. He will be a new character on the show. Why does he have to have an alternate identity? Why cant he just be himself?

I still think Magnus and Jacob will turn out to be one and the same But if not Hanso, then i think he's just his own character, no one we've met before.

[lost_grrl]

Originally Posted by sugarnuts

Jacob could be just a title, i could see that. But the question as to 'who' Jacob is could have the simplest answer: We've never seen him before. He will be a new character on the show. Why does he have to have an alternate identity? Why cant he just be himself?

I still think Magnus and Jacob will turn out to be one and the same But if not Hanso, then i think he's just his own character, no one we've met before.

You're probably right about him being a new character. There really isn't any sort of precedent for him being someone else's alter-ego, but I guess people just think that him being someone we know would be a Lost-like twist.

[Slackosis]

I know I posted this elsewhere but I'll give an abridged version as I sit in my cubicle avoiding work at all costs....

Oh and this is a stretch. Really.

Jacob is Jack. Or perhaps more accurately, it's either future or alternate timeline Jack. It's the Jack that is attempting to manipulate the current timeline to his liking...to protect both the island (which i'm thinking he will within the next two seasons realize is as important and holy as locke or ben think it is) and his people, the survivors. That's why he wants Locke's "help" with. He knows that Locke has a communion with the island that even Jackob (feel free to use that when responding to my terrible theory) respects and cannot emmulate. Jack is obsessed with "fixing" things and the entire timeline/course of events on the island is his ultimate goal...the ultimate mistake that he has to fix. He's attempting to do that from some future state by communicating with whomever he deems to be a major influence/player on the island. This also plays into the "Lost Tower"/time loop theory that i believe whole-heartedly in.

Let's also keep in mind that Jacob has not contacted Jack, and i believe never will b/c it'd cause some of rift in the continuum.

And who does Jacob seek to hang out and party with him in his cabin? Oh yeah, Jack's dad and sister.

We also do know that Jack loves to grow crazy beards and how important he eventually finds the island. "we gotta go back, kate!"

Anyways, that's my story and i'm sticking to it. (for now)

[sugarnuts]

I really like the idea that jack is Jacob. It seems very much possible and exactly the type of twist that Lost would throw at us.
you bring up some good points like who's in jacobs cabin, jack's beard, and good reason for him asking Locke for help.
His tattoo also points in this direction.

But if Jack were to be Jacob, that would mean that he would be in charge of Ben, and in effect, the others. So that would mean he ordered Ben to kill Dharma and attack his OWN camp. which would lead to: Walt's kidnapping, Michael's betrayal, and Jack's own capture.
This could all be a part of his plan though, or maybe im just plain wrong.
Either way, i really like this theory and look forward to the season finale to shed some light on the subject.

[Desi's Brother]

I posted on the main discussion board that I think Richard Alpert's never aging is in fact nothing more than the island has moved since he first met with Locke. So the island has moved into the future thus Richard is the same age more or less. There hasn't been the huge amount of time on the island that there has been in the real world.


I still think Jack is Jacob. I don't know why but feel certain that he is.