some ideas

[Mugsybutler]

great theories..i wrote before about a theory i had, also with the time travel aspect. Maybe at some point the losties were all on the island once before. I have this theory bc of a couple of things, but mostly because of charlie and the looking glass. The code for the receiver was set to the tune of 'good vibrations' and was made by a musician. Maybe somehow charlie set it for his 'future' self knowing that he would be in that position. Its a little out there, but it is Lost, so you never know. would be kind of cool though. also the skeletons in the locker made me think it could be some of the losties at one point in time...this show makes me nuts.

[nemesise1977]

Originally Posted by MsDee

So.....The magnetic qualities of the island would be something that naturally happened or are the magnetic qualities a result of something supernatural existing on the island or the island itself being supernatural. ...this is all beginning to sound very Bermuda triangle and if that is the case I would be very dissapointed

Does the bermuda triangle have a shack that moves, a group of people who seem to not age, another group of people that understand that time self corrects or a creature made of smoke that cant jump.

Some more ideas here now
Jacob was one of the first inhabitats and figured out some of the time properties and somehow managed to escape death into time but is now trapped in a state inbetween life and death and time, he had to use some sort technology to do so, prolly what made the island time dialation field/mag properties to begin with and because of that hates technology and does not want people on the island who want to exploit the field. To protect them from his fate.

I still think it will take the helicoptor about 15 hrs to get off the island (though to them on it, it wont be that long) which seems to be supported by the previews for the upcoming epp.

more after tonights epp I am sure

[mugatu22]

I agree, the heli will obviously land somewhere because Sayid has already been shown to live after escaping the island.

If it took the payload rocket 31minutes to get to the island instead of 25 seconds as expected, then it only makes sense that the heli will take longer than a few hours to get back to the freighter. This explains why the freighter has no record of the heli making it back yet.

[MsDee]

Nemesis asked,"Does the bermuda triangle have a shack that moves, a group of people who seem to not age, another group of people that understand that time self corrects or a creature made of smoke that cant jump."

I dont know Ive never been in the bermuda tRiangle LOL
had to say it couldnt resist

[patternsinthestatic]

Originally Posted by nemesise1977

Ok more theories, this one is a bit goofy and very much on the science part of it.

The island as we know has magnetic qualities that makes compases in accurate(season1) the swan station mag pulse (season 2) Hinted at time travel in season 3 and now in season 4 time dialation, Heres the theory part according to Faraday(the physist in the RL not lost) magentic forces can disrupt light and time. So Lets say there is a gigantic magnetic force around the island that would make the best way to approach or leave the island in the exact center of the poles where the magneti forces would make a kind of tunnel. Now lets say the Swan station regulated the magnetic force in some way but when the button wasnt pushed the mag force became very very strong, so strong that when 815 was flying over head the force didnt rip the plane out of the air and pull it down but instead acted like a magnetic break which wont really stop an object but will slow it down(watch the recent smash lab for a good example). so traveling through the corridor is safe except when swan goes wacky and that would be the heading in and out that Ben and Faraday(the lost one) suggest using. Now for the rocket experiment the Rocket got stuck in a time dialation caused by approaching on the wrong vector in, causing it to take 31 mins to get through and thus unsyncing the clocks. now I didnt time it but that rocket was going fast, somewhere in neighborhood of 3,000kph now the Heli would have a cruise speed of about 100kph so 1/30thish that of the rocket. we would get that all thigs being equal it could make the helicoptor take 15 hours to make it through the field. can we say ouch.

Ok so lets use that for some ideas on the Sub (yeah I read the comments) magnetic energy is effected by water, it actually will decrease the effects vs air because it is traveling through a more dense matter and more particulate minerals in it. so travel by sub would be more efficent and safer besides being more difficult to track. that aside the sub is metal and therefore subject to magnetic forces(and ones this great would be felt) as well they may do the approach near crush depth to be in colder denser water as it chould help lessen the effects (yes super conductors are kept very cold to make them that way but magnitism effects diffrent metals diffently at cold temps) the rough ride at such a depth would cause the vessel to catavate (shudder and make noise) so trevent sickness injury and panic, drug up and strap in

Now for the team on the island and the freighter. I suspect Ben has plans and had them in motion before they got on island to kill, capture or trap them. I am curious what the Others are doing at the ruins, trap setting or hiding my guess is a bit of both basically what a better location to get Strom, CS Lewis, and Faraday all at the same time. Ruins most likely have had people die at them so Gosty will want to go talk, Ruins for an anthropoligist would be her goal to study the culture there and could be a center for a physical or chemical phenomon to Lure in the scientist.

I think the Oceanianic 6 are people that strike a deal and betray their friends in order to get off the island in exchange for a free life.Oceanic pays them off publicly to save face and make them look like good guys to cover that they are part of a conspiricy org like the Hanso foundation and counting on the 6 to stay quiet out of fear or self humilation, Ben is having Sayied kill off key players in this conspircy to protect his intrest in the island and people like jack, colsest he has to friends.


more after som sleep

Woah, goofy? No way! This is one of the best theories I've seen yet, especially recently in light of the new Season 4 information. There's not a point you made in there that I'd disagree with or find fault in. I wanna hear more!

[LostFan27]

nemesise I like your theories, they are scientifically based and very likely (and possible). I hope something like this ends up happening because all the talk about time travel, the losties already have visited the island, time loops, and evil twins or doubles is absurd. If something like that ended up being the truth i would be upset, none of it is possible, but your ideas are theoretically possible and scientifically possible....so i like them

[nemesise1977]

Thanks for the comments everyone it is nice to know I'm not the only crackpot out there that dosent think their are doppelgangers, aliens ect.. running around

From the previews I have seen on the web it looks like in at least someways Im on the right track.

That said I have a few guesses about the up coming epp. and another thought about the French woman.

I bet the man in the bed Menikowski, has been on the island and escaped and also has some sort of flash forward cognition like Des. My guess is he was brought along as a technical advisor able to help guess what to do next and can give some insights because he was there once upon a time. And now his proximity to the island is causing him his ill effects.

Now the french woman...When the lostaways had been in ropes Ben tried to tell them one of them was now what they appeared, now everyone assumed he was talking about Juliet. But what if it was Roussou he was referring to?

[nemesise1977]

Immmmm baaaaaack
ok so here we go

I think the 815 crash coverup was done by Ben and his group, that way it would be less likely people would go in search of the island.

Simple nuff, now the Boat race Des was in. We now know that Widmore was sponsoring the race and he had the Journal before the race started. My guess is he was trying to recreate the route taken by the Blackrock to find the island, and by tracking the contestants when one boat went missing he got an idea of where to look. but then had to spend time finding its exact position and how to approach it.

[nemesise1977]

The island wont let you kill yourself....
Ok so how do you make an impossible to kill soldier when some mystical force wont let you kill your self. You send him on suscide missions.

My guess is it dosent happen for everyone only those Chosen. So Jack, walt, Kate Sawyer, Aaron, Sun, Hurley, Michael, Patchy and Des.

This would explain why patchy no diey. Like Lock throws him at the sonic fence and he runns in willingly, sonic fence zaps him but he lives why because of resisting and there fore being murdered he ran in trying to off himself. Same would then go for the hand gernade at the looking glass Gernade goes kaplewie blows the port in the station open but patchy will prolly wash to shore. So I would guess he could resurface later.

Now for Des he turned key on failsafe which should have killed him to save his life the island or the implosen sent him on a time trip.

So what if only the people who the island will protect like that can leave the island. The rest if they try to leave go mad and die so Jin and Clare ect have to stay behind.

Ben is a man who can get what he wants but why is that? My guess is his connection with the island but more than that is just cunning and intellagence/ trickery.

Also now who is lieing or is there another party involved in the 815 coverup. See The invoices shown could have been for the research vessles trying to get the black box. So do both sides just think the other is doing it or lieing. My bet is that Ben is lying and Widmore is not completely Honest either. Ben didn't need the boat blowen up and so make the Not Yet bomb so he could try to prove that He is a "good guy" to get michael to keep in line with what he needs him to do. That would be to find the names of people on the boat that the island could recruit. I do think this is more of a battle between 2 evils where some people are getting trapped in the middle and need to decide the Devil you know Or the Devil that may free you. I dont think either one is a good choice or good guy just one better that the other

[erikau]

Originally Posted by nemesise1977

Ben is a man who can get what he wants but why is that? My guess is his connection with the island but more than that is just cunning and intellagence/ trickery.

There is a Twilight Zone episode, one of my favorites, about a little boy and his town. Throughout the entire episode all you know is that there is a sweet, harmless looking child, and an entire town that seems willing to jump out of their skin to please him. At first you start to think, "Hey maybe this kid can control minds" but then you start to see how scared and angry the people are behind the kid's back. They don't seem mind controlled, but rather manipulated.

Then you find out WHY. The child has a very large power: astral projection. In other words, if the child thinks about something hard enough, he can make it manifest. He can make bikes, cakes, puppies, all kinds of fun stuff appear just by wanting them. However, he can also make big scary monsters and bombs appear when he's in a bad mood, which is why everyone tries so hard to keep him happy.

This reminds me not only on Ben Linus and his "magic box," but also of a very specific scene in which Walt is looking at a picture of a specific Australian bird, and then that specific breed of bird flies into his window. Ben and Walt can astral project?