The "hostiles" are descendants from the Black Rock

[chemicallcrow]

Just throwing it out there...

The people who were that before Dharma are descendants from the Black Rock.

Of course, that would mean two things:

1.) They had women on the ship
2.) The four-toed statue people are from an earlier time

[pugsy]

Damn! I thought I would be the first to post this one.

1. When Ben first met Alpert in the forest, Alpert was wearing what looked like an old pirate outfit.
2. The Hostiles are evidently pretty familiar with guns, like pirates would be.
3. Historically speaking, as a group pirates would be aggressive enough to kill all the Dharma people in an effort to keep their "treasure". The Dharma folks looked pretty mellow-when I saw Horace Goodspeed greeting Ben & his dad on the dock the first thing I thought was "I bet you this guy has a few plants growing in his backyard that aren't indigenous to the island"......a few seconds later I thought, "wow, this guy is really creepy and acting like a pedophile!"
4. One of the women greeting the new arrivals with a lei and saying "namaste" was wearing Dharma coveralls identifying her as a gemologist. Diamonds are often found by extinct volcanoes, and the diamonds could have brought the pirates there. It would also explain why they were bringing dynamite, to excavate a diamond mine.

The only thing is, Alpert seems to carry himself pretty well, in terms of articulation and social graces. Pirates were typically the scourge of society, outcasts, and without any type of education.

[Kyutek]

Originally Posted by pugsy

Damn! I thought I would be the first to post this one.

1. When Ben first met Alpert in the forest, Alpert was wearing what looked like an old pirate outfit.
2. The Hostiles are evidently pretty familiar with guns, like pirates would be.
3. Historically speaking, as a group pirates would be aggressive enough to kill all the Dharma people in an effort to keep their "treasure". The Dharma folks looked pretty mellow-when I saw Horace Goodspeed greeting Ben & his dad on the dock the first thing I thought was "I bet you this guy has a few plants growing in his backyard that aren't indigenous to the island"......a few seconds later I thought, "wow, this guy is really creepy and acting like a pedophile!"
4. One of the women greeting the new arrivals with a lei and saying "namaste" was wearing Dharma coveralls identifying her as a gemologist. Diamonds are often found by extinct volcanoes, and the diamonds could have brought the pirates there. It would also explain why they were bringing dynamite, to excavate a diamond mine.

The only thing is, Alpert seems to carry himself pretty well, in terms of articulation and social graces. Pirates were typically the scourge of society, outcasts, and without any type of education.

The Black Rock was also a slave ship which one assumes would be used on mining?

[meyerwill]

I don't think that the hostiles are original inhabitants of the island at all. Maybe they are dressed down to fool others, similar to what we saw when the Others in Season 2 had on fake clothes.

Anyone that grew up on an island and was now an adult would not be able to adapt to technology so quickly as to recruit a doctor (Juliet) to an auspicious island for mysterious tests.

I believe they were put on the island by another corporation trying to thwart Dharma. Maybe in their time on the island they came across startling discoveries about the powers surrounding the island. That would explain why Richard was startled to hear that Ben saw his dead mother, but not completely shocked. Maybe it's some sort of grass roots org. that believes that what Dharma is doing is wrong.

[chemicallcrow]

Of course, Richard doesn't (or barely) ages, so they could be original crew. (duh.)