Lost and Patty Hearst

[thatsplunkintalk]

Please accept my apologies if this has been posted before as I am sure it probably has...Was reading up on Patty Hearst when I made these pretty similer connections.....

This was taken from crimelibrary.com:

Lifton compared brainwashing to how the SLA zealots operated with Patty:

Milieu control – the control of communication by creating a totalitarian environment and "loading" language with ideological and emotional terms. Everything the person is exposed to is based on the zealot's truth.

Mystical manipulation – they use their mystique to provoke certain behaviors and emotions in a person but make it appear to arise spontaneously; they rely on making the impression that they're serving a higher purpose and their ideas are sacred. People who feel trapped by this resort to "the psychology of the pawn," by subordinating themselves to the ideology and adapting. It's less painful to flow with the tide than against it.

Demand for purity – By purging those ideas and behaviors that are inconsistent with the group ideology, they can become "pure." Shaming and guilt-producing tactics are used, and the cult leaders are the ultimate arbiters of what is good and bad. Denouncing "bad" thoughts and behavior is a relief to the captor.


Sounds just like the techniques of the "others".

[RichPundit]

Originally Posted by thatsplunkintalk

Milieu control – the control of communication by creating a totalitarian environment and "loading" language with ideological and emotional terms. Mystical manipulation – they use their mystique to provoke certain behaviors and emotions in a person but make it appear to arise spontaneously; they rely on making the impression that they're serving a higher purpose and their ideas are sacred. Demand for purity – By purging those ideas and behaviors that are inconsistent with the group ideology, they can become "pure" ... the "Others".

I very much like your application of solid behavioral theory that's consistent with much of our observed Island behaviors such as 4-Toe, "Others" are the good ones, and perhaps Juliet's branding. Perhaps the Island has an ancient sensing, analyzing, and acting capability that resulted in tribal cultures (repeated behaviors) for generations that were intentionally designed (stimulus-response or S-R) to help sustain and evolve the Island including with technology, perhaps ancient alien, and of course now Dharma. And, our Island has now become very powerful, perhaps unintentionally by some such as Alvar Hanso and intentionally by some such as Mettlewerk.

Islanders and associates do seem behaviorally controlled, or at least strongly influenced, at least sometimes - RichPundit