Why pregnant women cant survive on the island

[manghangson]

I think that the reason pregnant women cant survive on the island has alot to do with the Valenzetti Equation. I think that because they exist on this unique place in space time, (origin of the universe perhaps?), whenever a life is given, one must be taken away to balance out the universe(maybe part of the equation). Due to their proximity to the center of the universe, the woman who births the child, must also die as she is closest to the origin of life than the planet earth, thus facilitating the cycle quicker.

[tailhook]

Originally Posted by manghangson

I think that the reason pregnant women cant survive on the island has alot to do with the Valenzetti Equation. I think that because they exist on this unique place in space time, (origin of the universe perhaps?), whenever a life is given, one must be taken away to balance out the universe(maybe part of the equation). Due to their proximity to the center of the universe, the woman who births the child, must also die as she is closest to the origin of life than the planet earth, thus facilitating the cycle quicker.

I do like the idea of balance of the universe but have seen no evidence that the Island is for any reason at the center of the universe. Plus.. if that were the case then you would also need to explain why if children can't be born on the Island.. that people can die? The Island in order to keep balance would have to be able to fix any injury no matter how severe. So far we've only seen it able to fix non-life threatening injuries.

If you listen to what Juliet said she pretty much explains the problem. She also blows out of the water Doc's theory that Locke's healing was a result of a 'course correction' of time to a timeline where he didn't confront his father at all and was never paralyzed. There are healing properties to this island. That is Lost fact.

Those healing properties are almost certainly what healed Locke and did the same to Rose. But the problem involved here is how does whatever is behind these 'properties' distinguish a tumor from a fetus? They're both growths. The problem in this case is it can't and it starts attacking the fetus.. attempting to heal the mother but in turn destroying the child.. a consequence of which is the unintended death of the mother.

More troubling to me is the fact that the healing properties of the island may not be tied to the physical island space. The question becomes.. are these people getting healed simply by inhabiting the island.. or are they getting healed by something inhabiting them? Could the healing properties be what instituted the quarantine measures as it was felt that if someone came and go from the island that they could take these properties with them into the outside world? And if that were to happen.. could they jump from person to person causing the eventual end of the human race through a 0 birth scenario?

Now.. we've seen Ethan make trips to the real world so obviously if this is the case they've found some way of ensuring nothing from the island came with him... but that might not always have been the case.

And maybe the 0 birth scenario is actually the intended use of this 'virus'. That being to effectively sterilize the world's population while providing a method overseen by your local doctor and the administration of medicine to ensure a proper birth, especially if they could figure out some way that the mother doesn't die in the process of the growth being 'healed'. Should that happen the number of the Valenzetti equation dealing with overpopulation is then changed due to the fact you can reliably control the world's population growth.

And that.. is one scary freaking theory. Basically a virus that while healing the individual of any illness would force an abortion of any non-certified pregnancy.. passed human-to-human worldwide.

[Pitchy]

Originally Posted by tailhook

So far we've only seen it able to fix non-life threatening injuries.

Not true, Rose was going to die. When Bennard asked her to marry him, she explained she was dying and only had a few months to live... that is why they went to the faith healer in Australia.

Originally Posted by tailhook

Those healing properties are almost certainly what healed Locke and did the same to Rose. But the problem involved here is how does whatever is behind these 'properties' distinguish a tumor from a fetus? They're both growths. The problem in this case is it can't and it starts attacking the fetus.. attempting to heal the mother but in turn destroying the child.. a consequence of which is the unintended death of the mother.

I was thinking the same thing, that the island might be trying to cure the growth of the baby, but the mother's body works harder to make sure the baby survives.

That still doesn't explain how Ben has a tumor... unless the island has a way of determining who is good and who is bad and only choses to cure the good people. Ben did seem rather freaked out about having a tumor. Could be the island works on Karma, and all the bad deeds Ben has done has put him out of favor with the island.

[Roats]

Anyone got a line on if Russeau was pregnant when she had her baby 16 years or so ago.... or did she come here with the baby already born or what? Maybe a clue from 1st season.

Also makes me wonder if maybe Ben may have had something to do with her being able to have the baby on the island (if in fact she did)....and somehow taking the baby as an adopted "daughter" (ie: Alex of course)


Hmmmm..... wonderment.

[jiminy]

I mentuioned having recently watched the epi with Rouseau adn SAyid
she mentions her baby is a few days old when it ws taken..
how long the research team had been there b4 that- I cant recall.
It seems SO IMPORTANT now..
may have to rifle thru that again...
I woudl think from memory taht she concieved OFF the island- and the birth woudl perhaps be similar to Aaron ..just born on the Island.

Benrys only stated that as well - not that his parents were on teh Island when the "gleam" came.

[skwiffer]

hi. am i not right in thinking that alex is ben's daughter? or could this be that hes just lied to her, which now that i say it seems quite likely if not probable. but still it hasn't been said either way whether they are actually related or not.
i can't really imagine why the women can't give birth on the island and unfortunately i feel that the writers are going to put this down to one of the weird things about the island.
also ben was saying about how claie had an implant in her, which would make her sick, suggesting that it prett much definitely has something to do with not being able to conceive on the island. and surel sun should be starting to show that she's pregnant. and i thought that it was the other guy's baby. i got the impression that jin was fine with it. or was that just that he was fine with IF it was this other guys?
anyway, i'm starting to lose faith in lost. what are they playing at?

[Pitchy]

Well Juliet says she thinks the problem happens at conception and if she could take a woman off the island with her to Miami to research that, because there was nothing more she could do on the island.

So maybe it's possible that Jin was cured much like Rose and Locke... and the baby is his... if that is the case, then Sun will definitely have some problems later on in her pregnancy. If it's not Jin's then she be treated much like Claire was, but hopefully this time, willingly without the need for cloak and dagger style kidnappings.

[widmore/hanzo]

if you Juliet invented something that can cause birth without ,maybe while also being sterile,thus reason shes there.ponder on that








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