Theory on the end of S3, S4 Plotline, Time Travel, Jacob, Charlie and a major death b

[MLLMillenium]

This is my ultimate theory for lost. It encompasses new ideas with old ones of mine and pulls it all together. Sorry for the length of it all.

Coming towards the end of the season and putting together everything I believe to be true on the island I foresee a terrible, dark future for our friends on the beach. I see lost returning to its roots as a mystery thriller of action and suspense and a 4th and finale season which will be dark and powerful. Lead by the leader Jacob.

I have completely speculated who he is in the thread below, and that he will be appearing in season 4.
http://forums.buddytv.com/lost-gener...you-jacob.html

The others have split the barracks. They are returning somewhere else. Some where that can not be seen other than by air. That either Hot Air Balloons or Blimps have taken the others from the barracks too. Which also explains the food drops.

Ben is in a wheel chair. John is not. They have to sacrifice their luxuries so that they can have the things they want and need. The island has always been able to give them what they want so long as they can give the island themselves in return. In an undeniable, unconditional faith.

The people must be flawless.

John locke knows this. he is absolutely trusting of the island, and has done everything he believes to be correct to help sustain it. He and ben together or through ben's influence are going to be working for the greater good, even if it means that they must harm others such as the losties to do so.

There will be a cleansing issued. It's going to be the end of this season and follow through into the next starting an all out war on the island.

Sayid will be called to arms, training jack Kate and the rest of the group. Preparing them for a war and to protect themselves from the others and the monster on the island.

This is all going to beset off by one single event. The first step in ridding the island of people who are not worthy of it. James Ford is going to be brought out by John Locke to meet Cooper. There Ford will prove himself unworthy and kill the real sawyer. John Locke or the others will also kill sawyer to serve the island justice. This is the first in the cleansing that will take place.

This may or may not also trigger the downfall of locke, due to his feelings towards cooper since it may be viewed as cheating by the island just as ben has. Which will bring out the highest ranked connection to the island and the others. Jacob.

Before we get to that. Lets take a look. Sawyer is going to be the big surprise death of season 3. I am very positive about this. Recently hurley showed off how sawyer was really bottom of the chain and had to step up, but now we have our leader back. So sawyer is once again just as important as any castaway.

This is going to be the biggest shocker of all. I have speculated charlie will not die and sawyer certainly will.

Looking at the up coming flashbacks, we know charlie and desmond both have one. It is here where the next big piece comes into play. My theories on time travel involving the show will be brought into play.

You can read my entire theory on time for lost here. It's the last post.
http://forums.buddytv.com/lost-specu...html#post67886

Simply put,desmond is going to save charlie. He can change events and has already in the past. It is going to either be during Charlies flashback episode, or Desmonds when he realizes this. Which will also bring much more hope to a very hopeless man. Which will also make him a much more pivotal player in the series.

During either episode, something is going to wash ashore. What you may ask. None other than the ring that desmond bought in the past and threw into the water. Which was the entire point of that shot and sequence.

Once he finds the ring that is going to be the turning point for him. He will probably grow a stronger connection with his flashes as well, instead of wishing them to not be true. He rejects the gift he has now because he feels as if charlie has been forsaken no matter what he tries to do.

This is going to be very important for season 4. I see desmond knowing about the others plans a head of time due to his flashes. There will be more and more of deaths on the island.

Now back to jacob. It is time to make his entrance. As it is now, Charlie has survived, jack is leader once again. Desmond has the power to course correct the world to his own liking just as the island does and john locke and the others are on a path to cleanse the island of all the people who are not of use.

I feel as if ben has placed juliette with the losties to test her. So that he hopes she will return to the others and prove herself so they can continue work on changing the infertility of the others.

I think that claire is going to die, or become infertile herself after giving birth, and sun will do the same. I believe the island has a sort of way of giving and taking. Due to claires sons life, she will lose her own, which may explain the absence of parents for ben unless of course jacob is his father, it would still explain his mothers absence. It would explain why they steal the women and children.

Now.

We are looking at season 4.

Women and children are being used to continue the longevity of the inhabitants of the island. Juliette is being twisted so she will decide she wants to help the cause and stay with the others, which I do not see happening. Sawyer has been removed from the island in a violent manner and jack is once again the leader. The inhabitants are going to have to fend off against the others and their plan to control the power of the island with a complete connection, so that they can have the power to alter the valinzetti equation.

If you read my theory on time, then you know I for see an ending with both jack and kate either choosing to stay behind on the island or possibly being stuck on it or leaving and ending what I see as a snow globe time loop.

[homermoose]

Dude, Charlie is dying. Not Sawyer. Good theory but very unlikely.

[MLLMillenium]

Charlie is not dying. Sawyer is. Count on it.

[MAXX_DHARMA]

Charlie can't die, it'd be waaaaaay to obvious, the writers wouldn't do something like that, unless he sacrificed himself in some way. even the nikki and paulo one wasn't obvious, they weren't dead, but they did die when they were burried alive.

I think the Locke, Sawyer and Cooper scenario is pretty much a good bet although i'm not sold on Sawyer dying just yet.

I like your Ideas on the ring Desmond bought and interesting thought on Julliette being tested by Ben, I personally think she's fully aware of why she was left behind.

[tailhook]

Originally Posted by MLLMillenium

This is my ultimate theory for lost. It encompasses new ideas with old ones of mine and pulls it all together. Sorry for the length of it all.

Your ideas on time and how it fits into the story seem incredibly backwards to me. First, I get no feeling as to what you think overall they're trying to accomplish. Obviously part of it is extrapolating Jack wanting to fix everything to Jack wanting to fix the world.

Which is fair.. but to that end you imagine the final part of that to be Jack and Kate ending up in the cave. But, if we are to assume that those are Jack and Kate.. we know thats allready happened. So, if it happens again.. then the loop will not have been solved. Jack and Kate still don't fix whatever was wrong.. still go back in time.. and you're left with a conundrum. Because if they were able to fix what was looping.. then they wouldn't be there.

The other major problem I have with any theory that tosses out the words 'snow globe' whether that happens to be geography wise, time wise, whatever.. is that its magic words people throw out to really say nothing while seeming to say something. If you think there is a time loop.. then what would be the basis for it? What exactly do you mean by snow globe? Are you trying to infer time is actually stopping and wrapping around, doing backflips, or are people actually going back in time?

Originally Posted by MLLMillenium

I see lost returning to its roots as a mystery thriller of action and suspense and a 4th and finale season which will be dark and powerful.

God I hope not. Lost is mainly an action show. It has mysteries central to its core with a sci-fi basis that get revealed over time as part of the story... but this aint Murder, She Wrote. By the end of the season there shouldn't be many major mysteries as the true intention of the story is revealed once all the major players are now preseant and the predicament and what they are vying for is revealed to setup season 4 through to climax.

Originally Posted by MLLMillenium

The others have split the barracks. They are returning somewhere else. Some where that can not be seen other than by air. That either Hot Air Balloons or Blimps have taken the others from the barracks too. Which also explains the food drops.

You do realize that Hot Air Balloons and/or Blimps can be seen from the ground right? Rather easily actually. The problem with either one is that they don't hold anywhere near the number of people that make up The Others... and are very high maintanance. Blimps in particular require hangars... especially on an Island as rainy as the one in Lost. Either one was just red herring stuff someone threw out in reference to a friend of a friends supposed connection to the crew which was probably bogus to begin with.

Originally Posted by MLLMillenium

The people must be flawless.

Which nobody is and which everybody would be excluded from. Ben isn't even flawless.. even in the eyes of some of his own people(evidenced by Juliet and her crew(or at least alone in that now) looking for a change of leadership).

I'm not saying your theories don't have merit.. but they need to be fleshed out a little better so I can get where you're coming from on this.

You might start with this question.. what do you believe the overall story you're seeing is?

And then.. how does it fit to your theory?

[widmore/hanzo]

i believed there will be 5 seasons (same as Alias)and where did this Jacob coming from?

[Pitchy]

GOD LOVES JACOB AS HE LOVES YOU... room 23 during the behavior modification of Karl.

In the bible, Ben / Benjamin is the son of Jacob and there's lots of biblical references in Lost, such as Claire naming her baby Aaron and Eko says ah Aaron, brother of Moses.

Patchy says that it is not Ben who is the "GREAT MAN" who made the list, so we assume that the great man is Jacob who will most likely be Ben's dad.

[ali541]

well according to IMDB charlie seems to be in season 3 up until the last epsiode where he is not written in and also he is not down for any of the episodes for season 4 so far. so by this reasonable assumption i say that charlie is the one going to be killed and it will the second last epsiode.

sawyer, who they wont kill off, is down all the way till the end of season three and is billed for season 4..............reasonable assumption in my book. plus the rumpours are also afloat about charlie getting killed.

[widmore/hanzo]

oh right ,i see now thanks ,juliet will kill charlie,no doubt