Theory: Why Sun, Frank, and Ben went to the future.

[touzoku]

Ben is not an oceanic six, that is why he did not go back in time.

John Locke did not visit Sun and he also told Jin that he would not ask her to return to the island.

John Locke did not visit Frank.

But we know that.

John Locke visited Jack, Sayid, Kate, Hurley. All four of them ended up going "back to the island"

Ben was not on flight 815 (oh krap now im thinking what if he was????? anyways that's another theory lol)

John Locke also visited Walt, and I theorized before that because Walt was on the original flight 815 and Hawkings said they must recreate the circumstances as best they can. That leads me to beleive that Walt was on the plane, but we did not know it, nor did the oceanic people. I think when Ben came back bloody it was because he went to get Walt, who was probally being protected by someone. Walt is super special to the others especially Ben, I think this one he would trust to no one else but the best guy for the job, himself.

so in summary

John visited Jack, Sayid, Hurley, and Kate and asked them "To go back to the island." These four went back to the island, infact they went back in time also.

John did not visit Sun and ask her directly to "go back to the island", someone else asked her to. She went into the future. Also, John promised Jin that he would not ask Sun to return.

John did not visit Frank, also frank was not on flight 815.

[g8rfan]

I bieleve Locke was supposed to contact all of them to reaffirm their connection to each other. The show has made a big deal about connections. I wonder if when Locke meets up with Sun, whether she or both of them will flash back to 1977? Or maybe it will bring the others back to the present. (I think 1977) How convenient that she left the little island before Locke appeared, to drag the story out a bit.

Another theory I have regarding Sun's tardiness also has to do with connections. Each of the O6 represented passengers of the original 815 flight. Jack was escorting a corpse (with his father's shoes), Sayid was a handcuffed fugative, Hurely had a guitar and Kate... she may be pregnant! Sun had no connection.

As much as these make sense to me, it's probably something entirely different.

[erikau]

If you want to get technical, Sun was a proxy for Rose on the Ajira flight. She was nervous and clutching Jin's wedding ring, just like Rose did with her husband Bernard's ring.

[g8rfan]

Good catch! Then I guess my money's on the Locke connection. Locke could also have been serving as a constant to bridge the 815ers through time.

[sugarnuts]

I don't think the reason some characters went to 1977 and some stayed put has to do with Locke visiting them. For example, just because John visited Sayid and had a one minute convo with him, meant that Sayid would get teleported? I don't see why John's failed attempts to persuade any of the survivors to come back would have any effect on whether they would be teleported from the flight.

The best reason i heard for why Sun wasn't also transported is because she is already there. Maybe she is Halliwax's baby. I sware he does look like a younger version of Mr. Paik. The eyes look eerily similar, like one is slightly larger or opened wider or something.

like this angry little red guy haha

[tailhook]

Originally Posted by touzoku

Ben is not an oceanic six, that is why he did not go back in time.

John Locke did not visit Sun and he also told Jin that he would not ask her to return to the island.

John Locke did not visit Frank.

But we know that.

John Locke visited Jack, Sayid, Kate, Hurley. All four of them ended up going "back to the island"

Ben was not on flight 815 (oh krap now im thinking what if he was????? anyways that's another theory lol)

John Locke also visited Walt, and I theorized before that because Walt was on the original flight 815 and Hawkings said they must recreate the circumstances as best they can. That leads me to beleive that Walt was on the plane, but we did not know it, nor did the oceanic people. I think when Ben came back bloody it was because he went to get Walt, who was probally being protected by someone. Walt is super special to the others especially Ben, I think this one he would trust to no one else but the best guy for the job, himself.

so in summary

John visited Jack, Sayid, Hurley, and Kate and asked them "To go back to the island." These four went back to the island, infact they went back in time also.

John did not visit Sun and ask her directly to "go back to the island", someone else asked her to. She went into the future. Also, John promised Jin that he would not ask Sun to return.

John did not visit Frank, also frank was not on flight 815.

They're in 1987ish.. shortly after the Purge right around the time Rousseau set up shop. That was clarified by both the numbers coming from the radio station, the switching from Night to Day, and the Dharma swag in disarray at Otherville.

-TH

[touzoku]

I guess these are more observations than a theory lol

[g8rfan]

The best reason i heard for why Sun wasn't also transported is because she is already there. Maybe she is Halliwax's baby.

I think they can go back even if they're already there. When the remaining 815ers were flashing, they flashed to a time when they were already there. That's when Sawyer witnessed Arron's birth and when Locke saw the hatch light.

They're in 1987ish.. shortly after the Purge right around the time Rousseau set up shop. That was clarified by both the numbers coming from the radio station, the switching from Night to Day, and the Dharma swag in disarray at Otherville.

That would fit, but how did Ben know about the canoes? He'd have no way of knowing it was 1987ish and that there would be canoes at that location at that time. Also, the runway was there which was being built in 2004.

[Lurcher]

I thought the late 80's too, but it expressly states there's a 30 year difference. maybe the timeline changes so sun and frank were the only ones originally who made it off the island, and the ones who in the newly created timeline stayed behind joined the flashes?

[roastytoasty]

i like your theories. first of all i would like to say, ben was not on the flight 815. they specifically showed us in the first 5 minutes of season 3 that ben was standing on the island with the others at their base watching the plane fly over their heads and crash on the island.
i do like th efirst theory though, the one when locke tells them to come to the island, i have been wanting to see more of walt.
as for the kate being pregnant theory, WOW nice one. i like the way you think. but if she has a baby, its going to be someone important. who could her baby be? maybe its just gonna be another baby like aron or yu-jin, or charlie. btw, i love that desmond named his son charlie.
plus where the hell is desmond again? i forgot, is he like permanantly off the show now that they are on the islnad agai?
also sun couldnt be hollowax's baby because we already know her father, and his last name isnt hallowax. also, i think they were planning on telling us that miles was hallowax's son. because don't you guys remember when they wer all getting nose bleeds, and miles is like, "why is charlotte getting really bad nose bleeds, and me too, but not the other people" or something along those lines. well its because of how long theyve been on the island. charlotte lived ther for like 6 years of her life then moved, so shes been ther the longest. why did miles come second then? because he has been on this island longer than the losties, and he doesnt even remember it. daniel faraday said, "it depends on how long youve been on the island", to which miles responds, "but the other people have been here longer than us", then daniel says "are you sure?"