Old 03-21-2009, 04:03 PM   #1
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With Radinsky being introduced and seeing his model of the swan, I naturally started thinking about the swan, the button, the magnetsim, etc. again.

But what about the name. Why would you call it "the swan" I can't figure out what a swan and electromagnetism, computers, numbers, hyroglyhs, etc.. have to do with a swan.

Anyways I'm probally getting way to deep here but I started reading about swans.

They mate for life, out of birds they have been on the planet the longest, or they are dam close. They come in two colors, mainly white, but there is a Australian species that is pure black. The Swan is found heavily in european mythology and its found in australian aborigineal mythology. The swan is also a part of hinduism.

Perhaps there are more swan stations. There are more pockets of energy according to Hawking. Maybe there is a white swan and a black swan? maybe in austrailia? The white swan on the island and the black swan on australia?

anyways im getting tooo deep here.


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As the resident theologian, I can take this haha.

I'm going to focus on the Hindu tradition, since the clues the show is giving us points squarely in that direction. There are lots of gods and goddesses in this faith, but the Big 3 and their female consorts or counterparts are:

Brahma (god of creation) and Sarasvati (goddess of music, knowledge, and art)

Vishnu (the essence of all being, and also the master of Time: past, present, and future, the preserver of all existence...he's basically pretty freakin important..interestingly he has four hands, one of which holds the Wheel that symbolizes time in Hinduism) and Lakshmi (goddess of wealth, prosperity, and generosity, and also the embodiment of beauty, grace and charm...she's also the goddess of the means to achieving objectives...basically she's the goddess of helping people get **** done, prosperity haha)

Shiva (the god of destruction and rejuvenation) and Durga or Parvati, she goes by both (the Divine Mother and goddess of fertility, motherhood, and generally creation...she is considered the gentle side of Shakti (shakti is the general term for all the primordial cosmic energies, dynamic forces that move throughout the Universe), and the Divine Shakti, meaning she is the embodiment of total energy in the universe...sounds like the Island to me haha)

So Brahma creates the world, Vishnu preserves the world, and then Shiva destroys the world so that it can be recreated anew....but all of this happens in a CYCLICAL time, as represented by the wheel...time has no beginning or end, the beginning is the end, the end is the beginning. Each cycle is a mahayuga, a single existence, and it is made up of 4 stages. For more on the 4 stages of Hindu time, and how they parallel Lost, read my theory of the Frozen Donkey Wheel and the Hindu Wheel of Time: http://forums.buddytv.com/lost-theor...heel-time.html


Anyway, Sarsvati, the consort of the creator God and the Goddess of knowledge...she is represented by the Swan, specificaly the Hamsa (Hanso?) bird, or the Mute Swan. The Hamsa Swan is the possessor of the sacred knowledge of the Brahman (not to be confused with the god Brahma). Brahman represents the idea of perfect balance and union in life...a perfect balance of black and white, if you will, the masculine and feminine Shakti or energies (think of the yin yang)...and the bird is considered a container for the Supreme Spirit...much like the Swan station covers, protects, and harnesses the Supreme Spirit, or energy, of the Island. The flight of the hamsa swan is also the symbol for escaping samsara, which in Hinduism is the endless cycle of life death, and rebirth, which is considered mainly a negative thing because one only remains stuck in samsara if they fail to become enlightened...thus the bird is a symbol for achieving enlightenment. In certain sections of Hindu philosophy, one strives to be like the hamsa swan...as it is able to live in the water without getting its feathers wet, so too should a person be able to live in the material world without succumbing to its Maya, or illusion. Hamsa are super important...they symbolize divine knowledge, purity, detachment from the material world, prana (cosmic breath), and the highest level of spiritual achievement. If the Dharma (Hindu for sacred duty) Initiative, with all their Namastes, is not at least interested in the Hindu tradition, I'll eat my hat, They named it the Swan Station...they knew that place would do great things, unlock great mystery, allow them to achieve the impossible...so they gave it a name that had symbolized the highest achievements in the philosophy they admired.




I know this is a lot of reading, but it's a very condensed version. Hope it helps, I think its all related.
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Old 03-25-2009, 06:47 PM   #3
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Awesome to know!
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Old 03-26-2009, 02:17 AM   #4
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i like this show , it is awesome.
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Old 03-26-2009, 12:26 PM   #5
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Holy hell another great post erikau. I feel like im actually learning stuff.
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Old 03-26-2009, 03:49 PM   #6
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cool dude i hate looking up stuff like that lol thanks for doing that bud
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