Others NOT from DHARMA??? - Page 2

02-07-2007, 05:08 AM

Wouldn't this be "Speculation"?

nemesise1977 · 02-07-2007, 10:50 PM

I think tonights epp not in portland shows that it is not DHARMA but stll a major conspiricy, that is un ethical and dangerous.

tailhook · 02-14-2007, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by nemesise1977

I think tonights epp not in portland shows that it is not DHARMA but stll a major conspiricy, that is un ethical and dangerous.

And.. it showed nothing of the sort.

But then.. it didn't address Dharma either way.

alarose20 · 02-14-2007, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by tailhook

And.. it showed nothing of the sort.

But then.. it didn't address Dharma either way.

you'll get your answer in Episode 11, Enter 77 , Sayid Centric...

now THAT's spoilerish...

nemesise1977 · 02-14-2007, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tailhook

And.. it showed nothing of the sort.

But then.. it didn't address Dharma either way.

Didnt need to address DHARMA epp 1 se3 did that
Juliet said to jack when he asked her about DHARMA - that was a long time ago it does not matter what we were but we are now
and in TLE Mittlewerk states point blank that DHARMA failed.

tailhook · 02-15-2007, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by alarose20

you'll get your answer in Episode 11, Enter 77 , Sayid Centric...

now THAT's spoilerish...

'ish'

You have a weird idea of what you consider spoilers.

Actually having concrete information on a reveal would be a spoiler.

Spoiler for like this most recent episode would have been saying that Desmond actually went back in time to his past as a result of turning the key.

Didn't see that information on this site. I really consider the 'hints' producers cookie-feed you guys just a more subtle form of a 30 second promo. Of course.. even if you actually did have the goods.. like AICN's early review.. you'd never break it down cause then the cookies would stop coming. Face it, its all just advertising nothing more to peak interest. Don't act like you're giving away the farm.

tailhook · 02-15-2007, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by nemesise1977

Didnt need to address DHARMA epp 1 se3 did that
Juliet said to jack when he asked her about DHARMA - that was a long time ago it does not matter what we were but we are now
and in TLE Mittlewerk states point blank that DHARMA failed.

I don't consider the games to be canon. If it aint in the show they have no obligation to adhere to it. They could go with a completely different tact if the story suited it and say 'what game?'.

QuantumSam · 03-01-2007, 07:20 AM

We saw Ethan in 'Not in Portland.' All the Others are using DHARMA equipment; DHARMA food; DHARMA, DHARMA, DHARMA. This group is comprised of DHARMA members.

However, if Ben has been there all his life, then that might indicate additional non-DHARMA people.

However, the very fact that they have been in continual contact with DHARMA/Widmore groups, indicates they are still part of the program.

But, this is my hypothesis -

1. assumption based upon obseveration -- major psychological testing has gone on, i.e. the Swan hatch and the Pearl hatch that was monitoring the "testing" going on in the hatch
2. Observation -- Several Others do not want to remain on island
3. Conclusion -- They are unwilling participants in a 'Lord of the Flies" experiment

Bunny Suction · 03-01-2007, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by QuantumSam

We saw Ethan in 'Not in Portland.' All the Others are using DHARMA equipment; DHARMA food; DHARMA, DHARMA, DHARMA. This group is comprised of DHARMA members.

However, if Ben has been there all his life, then that might indicate additional non-DHARMA people.

I'm inclined to think the opposite. My guess is that Patchy (just don't like the name Bakunin, which I've probably spelled wrong) is the last surviving member of DHARMA. The promos for next week's episode gave me the impression that he is holed up in his shack defending it against the outside world. I'm thinking the Others were there first and essentially comandeered DHARMA for their own purposes. They may have even orchestrated DHARMA from the beginning to their own ends (with all that Lost Experience Valenzetti mumbo-jumbo as a cover). So I suppose what I'm saying is that they may have been behind DHARMA, but they are not DHARMA, and the people involved with DHARMA were in the dark and are likely all now dead.

Hexonxonx · 03-01-2007, 09:06 AM

I agree with Bunny Suction here. The Others are using DHARMA equipment because they're working at a DHARMA station. Desmond wearing a DHARMA suit and eating DHARMA food doesn't make him DHARMA any more than it makes the Others DHARMA.

I'm not so sure about the Others orchestrating DHARMA from the beginning, but they seemed to have contributed to their downfall and taken over their territory.

Also, all the new stuff labeled DHARMA might not really be from DHARMA. If DHARMA is gone, why are they still sending food and supplies? I think someone else (the Others? outside-world-based Others?) wanted the occupants of the Swan to believe DHARMA was still going so they'd keep doing their job.

03-01-2007, 07:20 AM	#18
QuantumSam Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 10	Others definitely with DHARMA We saw Ethan in 'Not in Portland.' All the Others are using DHARMA equipment; DHARMA food; DHARMA, DHARMA, DHARMA. This group is comprised of DHARMA members. However, if Ben has been there all his life, then that might indicate additional non-DHARMA people. However, the very fact that they have been in continual contact with DHARMA/Widmore groups, indicates they are still part of the program. But, this is my hypothesis - 1. assumption based upon obseveration -- major psychological testing has gone on, i.e. the Swan hatch and the Pearl hatch that was monitoring the "testing" going on in the hatch 2. Observation -- Several Others do not want to remain on island 3. Conclusion -- They are unwilling participants in a 'Lord of the Flies" experiment

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02-07-2007, 05:08 AM	#11
thejungleman Posts: n/a	Wouldn't this be "Speculation"?

02-07-2007, 10:50 PM	#12
nemesise1977 Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 91	I think tonights epp not in portland shows that it is not DHARMA but stll a major conspiricy, that is un ethical and dangerous.

03-01-2007, 09:06 AM	#20
Hexonxonx Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 180	I agree with Bunny Suction here. The Others are using DHARMA equipment because they're working at a DHARMA station. Desmond wearing a DHARMA suit and eating DHARMA food doesn't make him DHARMA any more than it makes the Others DHARMA. I'm not so sure about the Others orchestrating DHARMA from the beginning, but they seemed to have contributed to their downfall and taken over their territory. Also, all the new stuff labeled DHARMA might not really be from DHARMA. If DHARMA is gone, why are they still sending food and supplies? I think someone else (the Others? outside-world-based Others?) wanted the occupants of the Swan to believe DHARMA was still going so they'd keep doing their job.