Lost Explained??

[hedder]

Those words are not french, they're latin. The one phrase above CV III "liberte te ex infernus" loosely translates to "Your freedom from below"...hmmmmm...

[tailhook]

Originally Posted by SunSpot

Well I think the Pearl is the center "?" because:

1. There was a ? (salted earth) above the pearl which Eko saw.

2. The Pearl had TV monitors that appeared to connect to each station on the island (only one you could get a picture on was the Swan). This would make the Pearl a Central Location, if not geographicly, then certainly central for observation.

3. The dreams Eko had which led them to the Pearl referred to the place as the question mark.

4. The dashed lines on the map represent areas Kelvin was unsure about, only speculated. Note that the other stations he was unsure about ALSO have a question mark. (there is more than one question mark on the map)

So to me the Relevence of the Question mark is to be taken as "unknown area" and once investigated, reveals the Pearl, the central station for observation.

man i feel like a real scientist. lol

Why I don't. First.. IIRC the magical ? that some people seem to see in the ground like Mother Theresa in a Tortilla IIRC was made via the plane crash. Second.. if Kelvin did know about it he would have explored the area and found the hatch. This was a nice little bit of misdirection on the part of the producers and writers. The only geographic feature on that island warranting a big ass circle that couldn't be explored is the crater.

The search for the ? was simply a plot device of getting Locke and Eko to the plane crash site and to discover The Pearl... its not what was actually represented on the blast door map.

-TH

[SunSpot]

dunno still not buying it. The elevation / terrain lines on the map are all in the upper right, where the mountains are.. I think that is where the others are, remembering the people in the Pearl would take the "Ferry" to get to the R/R area. Also the shot of plane breakup with the crater visible would put the crater North-ish of the swawn (past a visible Bay) and the tailies to the west closest to the bay/Ferry landing. (why so many of them were captured so quickly?)

[hedder]

Some more translations on there are:

aeg exit motendo? - The disease worsens with the treatment. The remedy is worse than the disease.

Ut sit magna, tamen certe lenta ira deorum est - The wrath of the gods may be great, but it certainly is slow.

Sursum corda - Lift up your hearts (to God)

Malum consilium quod mutari non potest - It's a bad plan that can't be changed.

Credo nos in fluctu eodem esse - I think we're on the same wavelength.

Hic sunt dracones - Here are dragons (snakes)

[Bunny Suction]

Originally Posted by tailhook

Why I don't. First.. IIRC the magical ? that some people seem to see in the ground like Mother Theresa in a Tortilla IIRC was made via the plane crash. Second.. if Kelvin did know about it he would have explored the area and found the hatch. This was a nice little bit of misdirection on the part of the producers and writers. The only geographic feature on that island warranting a big ass circle that couldn't be explored is the crater.

The search for the ? was simply a plot device of getting Locke and Eko to the plane crash site and to discover The Pearl... its not what was actually represented on the blast door map.

-TH

The ? wasn't made by the plane crash. They said in the episode that the ? was made by the ground being salted so nothing would grow there, so that the spot could be seen from above. Also, as I mentioned earlier, you can see exactly where the two parts of the plane went down in the crater shot, and the crater's location in relation to them. It is east of the tail section crash site, in the northeast corner of the blast door map. The dotted lines around the question mark don't indicate a physical circle. Craters, mountains, elevation, etc. are all indicated by the contour lines throughout the map.

[Bunny Suction]

Originally Posted by ?man

Thne whats the cv4 then?

We don't know what CV4 or any of the CVs are yet unfortunately. My guess would be "Cerberus Vent" since we've seen smokey (Cerberus) disappear into holes in the ground before (when he tried to take Locke). But that's just a theory.

[rwilson2006]

Originally Posted by Bunny Suction

The ? wasn't made by the plane crash. They said in the episode that the ? was made by the ground being salted so nothing would grow there, so that the spot could be seen from above. Also, as I mentioned earlier, you can see exactly where the two parts of the plane went down in the crater shot, and the crater's location in relation to them. It is east of the tail section crash site, in the northeast corner of the blast door map. The dotted lines around the question mark don't indicate a physical circle. Craters, mountains, elevation, etc. are all indicated by the contour lines throughout the map.

Actually Eko said that it was a circle salted into the ground. Think about it for a minute, why would they make a "?" on the ground? It would make more sense that it would be a circle to use as a target to drop supplies and such.

I tend to agree with TH on this one. I think the "?" was there just so that they could find the Pearl and see the studies that were being done there. It set up the whole Locke not believing the "button" was real.

Plus we found out in last years finale that the Pearl was the experiment so how could it be the "?" Obviously by the map the "?" in the middle of the map was important. We found out the Pearl was the psychological test. So I think that we have just found out that the OTHERS live in the "?" area of the map.

[Bunny Suction]

Originally Posted by rwilson2006

Actually Eko said that it was a circle salted into the ground. Think about it for a minute, why would they make a "?" on the ground? It would make more sense that it would be a circle to use as a target to drop supplies and such.

I tend to agree with TH on this one. I think the "?" was there just so that they could find the Pearl and see the studies that were being done there. It set up the whole Locke not believing the "button" was real.

Plus we found out in last years finale that the Pearl was the experiment so how could it be the "?" Obviously by the map the "?" in the middle of the map was important. We found out the Pearl was the psychological test. So I think that we have just found out that the OTHERS live in the "?" area of the map.

They didn't make a question mark on the ground. They made a circle like you said. It just looked like a question mark when the plane fell in sort of an ironic coincidence. I think that's what the earlier poster had meant when they said the plane made the question mark when it fell. I'm not seeing why the Pearl being an experiment means it can't be the question mark. If the argument is that the question mark had to be something important, and the Pearl wasn't then that isn't really valid. Whether or not the Pearl was important is a matter of opinion. I sure thought it was. At least in terms of the events it set in motion. Plus we don't know that the mapmaker drew the question mark to indicate that what was there was ultra-important. Most likely it was just because they didn't know what was there. Also, as I mentioned above, we can see where the Other's village is in the aerial shot. They show us outright. It is to the east of the tail section crash site. Thus, it can't be in the middle of the map, where we know the question mark is.

[TheBlastDoor]

I don't remeber seeing the crater can someone post a picture of it

[tailhook]

Originally Posted by TheBlastDoor

I don't remeber seeing the crater can someone post a picture of it

Its something you only saw if you watched the show in a 16:9 widescreen format. At 4:3 the image was cropped.

Originally Posted by Bunny Section

It is to the east of the tail section crash site. Thus, it can't be in the middle of the map, where we know the question mark is.

What is this 'east' direction based on? Its not like they put a compass pointer on the screen and Flight 815 was a thousand miles off course iirc.

Btw.. one other thing to munch on. If you want to claim that the contour lines to the east and northeast are hills and mountains and what not... then how is it the circle with the ? is as big if not bigger than them? The circle Eko and Locke found was only 10-20 feet in diameter... it makes no sense for a feature that small to get an area that big.

-TH