Lost Episode 4.12 "There's No Place Like Home, Part 1" General Thoughts

[lost_grrl]

Originally Posted by Bentiss

Follow me here...
They said 8 were alive during the crash...THAT WOULD NOT INCLUDE AARON YET...So, there were 3 others they were claiming were alive and died. I think in an earlier episode they said that the pilot was alive for a few hours...

Honestly though, debating who they "are saying" is alive...
Who cares!
We know that's not true...
It really is totally irrelevant..

Nice catch B!!!!!

I still can't figure out why they even have3 that story if not to explain Aaron.

[Talontbo]

why would it be totally irrelevant??

the only time I can think of that someone may have mentioned a survivor dying.. would be during Jack's testimony.. I need to go back and watch it.. but to be perfectly honest.. I can't remember if he states it or we are all having a mass thought that it was said.. other than here.. I can't think of a time it could have been addressed..

but again I ask.. why would it not be relevant?? because they are dead.. Charlie is dead.. he is relevant.. Christian we assume is dead.. quite relevant.. Boone has been relevant from time to time..

so what I am really asking is... is it possible that at a later date.. the names of the 3 survivors that die after the fake crash so to speak...could become relevant..

Like to nosy reporter guy... because..

When Kate was apprehended.. in Australia.. and was being held by Australian Authorities.. prior to leaving Australia in the custody of a U.S. Marshall.. several thing would have had to occur...

A Basic Physical
Processing for Australian Authorities Records..

and here is the catcher..

as a U.S. Deputy Marshall or U.S. Marshall.. a report would have to been filed, detailing her current condition and ETA in the States.... electronically no doubt.. after all... its 2004... at the least a fax to Washington..and further notices sent to the State where her original crimes were committed.. this and a ton of other things... we only see the basic crimes for which we knew she was accused... and yet... there are perhaps another 20 she could be charged with.. not the least of which... Forgery, Fraud, Flight to Avoid Prosecution in Every State Charging her with a crime as well as Federally... etc etc etc....


How much easier would it be for Nosy Reporter to dig a bit deeper... but... I do not see any of this happening.. as a matter of fact... because Egg Town is 2+ years later.. we should be assured it won't... But as a Flash Back... there could be some crazy relevance... maybe part of Hurley going nutty... who knows...

[sugarnuts]

Why is everyone hatin on the latest episode, i didn't think it was that bad. After all, it was just a primer for the season finale. We find out what starts Hurley's descent into madness. and thank god Jack finally found out about Claire, that was a long time coming. Overall, good episode, it did its job by getting me pumped for the Finale!

and im really sorry guys, but i have to bring up the coffin. The writers said it would be revealed at the end of the season, and there haven't been any thoughts on this lately, so i just felt like i had to bring it up. i dont see it being Claire anymore so, god dammit, im gonna have to go with Sawyer

somebody please discredit this, i'll be pissed if its him

[Talontbo]

hey Sugarnuts.

discredit it????.. as a matter of fact.. Sawyer has no real family..Father and Mother Dead... no siblings.. a daughter that doesn't know him..

but here is your saving grace..

Kate would go to his funeral... without question ...


so... Don't worry.... Its Not Sawyer...

[mugatu22]

Agreed, how could it be Sawyer w/out Kate coming to visit the funeral?

They DID say the person in the casket would be revealed by the end of the season, so they have 2 episodes left (two 1-hour finale) to tell us who it is, right?

[lost_grrl]

Originally Posted by twolimes

Question

If the captain was shot in the last episode why was it that he was in the wheelhouse after the engines were fixed?

I doubt that was an inconsistency
So that leaves me with another question
Did they follow the exact bearing back to the ship ?
or did something change?

That isn't the captain that is in the wheelhouse with Des after the engines are fixed...it's some guy called "Hendrix" and is very, very clearly a different actor.

[sugarnuts]

Actually there is only one more episode, but its 2 hrs. So this next episode is their last chance to explain.
Okay so it doesn't look like Sawyer..... sweet

[lost_grrl]

Originally Posted by Talontbo

When Kate was apprehended.. in Australia.. and was being held by Australian Authorities.. prior to leaving Australia in the custody of a U.S. Marshall.. several thing would have had to occur...

A Basic Physical
Processing for Australian Authorities Records..

and here is the catcher..

as a U.S. Deputy Marshall or U.S. Marshall.. a report would have to been filed, detailing her current condition and ETA in the States.... electronically no doubt.. after all... its 2004... at the least a fax to Washington..and further notices sent to the State where her original crimes were committed.. this and a ton of other things... we only see the basic crimes for which we knew she was accused... and yet... there are perhaps another 20 she could be charged with.. not the least of which... Forgery, Fraud, Flight to Avoid Prosecution in Every State Charging her with a crime as well as Federally... etc etc etc....


How much easier would it be for Nosy Reporter to dig a bit deeper... but... I do not see any of this happening.. as a matter of fact... because Egg Town is 2+ years later.. we should be assured it won't... But as a Flash Back... there could be some crazy relevance... maybe part of Hurley going nutty... who knows...

You are singin' my song there, talontbo...I said that very same thing when all of the discussion about whether or not Kate would try to pass off Aaron as hers started, way back in her episode. Women are always screened for pregnancy when they enter a correctional facility in the US, and since Australia isn't some crazy place where they don't care about those things, and since she was being turned over to US Marshals, she would have been screened. So the idea of her trying to pull it off is just bogus, but a lot with her after-island experience does not ring true, unfortunately...

Which goes back to our argument with our friend jbragg...Lost does make mistakes, so if he refuses to believe that the "inconsistencies" that he thinks are there (but actually aren't), then perhaps he needs to realize that it is possible that what he thinks is a clue is actually a mistake.

[Talontbo]

hey Lost_grl..

I am getting ready to head out... Preakness and all... need to hit the local OTB....

but I have to say... the whole Aaron Kate thing makes me nutty... always has... Aaron as on O6... should have been.. O5+1.... just as catchy.. if you ask me... and it confirms.. Aaron born after crash... so.. (he survives Mommy surviving crash)... splitting hairs??? sure.. but it is more accurate.... as he was not a the plane.. he was in his mommy... Mommy was on the plane... semantics??? yes... fodder for debate...LOL..

as for JBragg.. I listed the time line.. and it was exact... and as I continued to say..

The Doctor/Sayid Boat trip doesn't Jive.. everything else does... but the Doctor.. that one is a planned Time Mystery... not a mistake... Sayids boat trip... either way... I think its an inconsistency.. so far... this late episode I have only watched twice... now where near the 12-15 times I have for all the rest.. so I an still working it in my head...

[baseballfury]

Sayid is seen in the next trailer strutting, apparantly in front of keamy, so i reckon there's gonna be some kung-fu, iraq-y army kickass going on there.

The chopper is said to be losing fuel so i think it took some gun fire when keamys boys were taken out.

Ben gave Locke his "nightstick", yet he had it in the flashforward episode in the desert. Seems obvious that the island manipulates time and space cause Ben ended up 1000's of miles away in a desert.
Maybe then, Ben transports himself and keamy's group (boys sounded dodgy) off the island just to different locations.

Seemed the 'others' were taking Sayid and Kate to help with Keamy.

That groundhog day theory is one of the best i've heard just wondered why all the 'others' go girly when they see Locke if it's happened all before. Also why Ben shoots Locke and has an obvious hatred for him for taking his place as 'chosen one'. I liked that theory because i am looking for a way to explain why Ben is not 2-3 steps ahead but actually more like 10 steps ahead of everyone else.
Remember the whole getting captured by Rousseau, seeding distrust within the camp....genius and very risky. The repucussions of that plan were still being felt in season 4. My only explaination is him having dreams like Locke only more detailed/specific. "I used to have dreams John", yeah right pal, who you kidding like you still aint having em, slimy maggot....awesome character though. That line about changing the rules is pretty much the glue of the entire story though.

Anywho episode was good mainly because it was one of those 'smooth the edges' episodes that builds up to a badass one. Can't wait for the 29th. Oh yeah the guy in the coffin is Locke....curveball maybe, dont want it to be true but still.

Peace.