Losties and Native Fathers?

[Talontbo]

hey Lost_grl..

I wish I had an answer for you... I can only try and restate what the show has given us..

She was never in her sons life..
she admitted that over the years.. Cooper gave her money
the P.I. tells Locke.. as long as she is on her meds.. she is pretty normal

so... she needed money.. NOW... set up her son...

but... if Locke does not give up his kidney... Cooper dies.. and Emily's ATM is closed for business...

so where is the benefit of lying??? except if she wasn't his real mother.. and we have the provided show evidence to the contrary... The con makes more sense.. if indeed she is his real mother.. and Cooper is his real dad... so we are back to the beginning..

How does Cooper know Locke is a perfect or near perfect match??? unless he knew.. Emily's son, is His son... (Emily)who he has given money to all these many years.. would surely have told him... wouldn't she???


I would love for it to be otherwise.. i really would... and not to be stubborn.. although we both know i am... the amount of information we have is so overwhelming.. I just can not.. ignore that..

[Ouidybird2]

The only question I have about this topic is: Why does Thomas look so much like Ben?

[Talontbo]

hey Quidy..

pretty sure they are not related in real life... but you do have an interesting eye for detail...
Lostpedia also notes... Widmore has on of Thomas's paintings... as Thomas is an artist.. This I find very very interesting..

you observation is excellent...

I have put forth the question in this thread... is there is some deep connection.. why haven't we seen

Thomas
of evidence of other fathers??? but have not ruled out we may see Thomas again.. I have to say though...

I want so much more from Lost than that which we have been given... and still... I am very happy with the show... wishing and receiving,,, don't always go hand in hand...

[erikau]

A few things: First, the mural in the Swan also appears to be done by Thomas, which I stated in my original post. I know we have heard that Desmond did it, but the style is unmistakable:

Swan mural:http://images.lostpedia.com/images/b/bb/Mural3.jpg
One of Thomas' painting in Widmore's office:http://images.lostpedia.com/images/3...epainting1.jpg
Thomas' studio and art: http://images.lostpedia.com/images/e...s-painting.jpg

To me, that is evidence he has been on the Island. That at least gives credibility to Aaron having a Native Father.

Also, pieces of that specific Swan mural appear on the chalkboard in Santa Rosa. So circumstantial as it might be...this connects in my mind Thomas, Widmore, the Island, and Santa Rosa (and it's patients...), although how I'm not quite sure. I think it is fair to say with Libby, Hurley, Mama Locke, and Thomas (through the mural) all having ties to Santa Rosa, and that being where the numbers were first heard by Hurley...it is more than just a nuthouse.

Also, Thomas realllly looks like Ben: http://images.lostpedia.com/images/f/f2/Thomas.jpg

Another interesting thought: In looking up stuff on Thomas in Lostpedia, I was reminded of something from "Raised by Another." When Claire is actually about to sign over her baby to the potential adoptive parents, what stops her is that two different pens that she tries won't work as she tries to sign her name. She sees it as a bad omen and leaves. Was it the Island, messing with the pens as it would later mess with the gun that Michael tries to kill himself with, and the accident that distracts Jack? Was this a really early example of the Island stepping in and pushing along Claire's fate? If so, it's really cool, because it 100% suggests that the Island or whatever has always been keeping an eye on and expecting Claire...


Finally, and this is not important to the show, but my name is Erika. I'm not a boy haha.

[Talontbo]

hey Erikua...

you already told me....LOL... so I knew...

as for Thomas having ties to Santa Rosa..... I can't go there.. that similar imagery is on the black board only suggest Hurley really.. as we see this after his rescue if i am not mistaken. Libby is dead.. Mommy Locke.. not sure she has been back.. and we know Hurley has seen the actual mural and possibly the orientation films showing the polar bears at the very least..

that said.. it is compelling.. Widmore has at least two of Thomas' works.. this is verified.. as for the mural.. Lostpedia says it is Desmond's... and similar artistic style is not at all uncommon.. but it was very cool to go back and reacquaint with this minor character...

as for the Ink Pens... and there were 3 or 4, I think.. Good thinking.. I had not put two and two together on that one.. being so far back.. but great catch.. and Yes.. it does seem as though something more was influencing this... Island??? time may tell... of course.. it may not tell either.. whatever the case.. great job...

[lost_grrl]

Originally Posted by erikau

Finally, and this is not important to the show, but my name is Erika. I'm not a boy haha.

Sorry about that...I thought that your screen name meant that you were Erik from Australia...makes sense, right?

Won't happen again, I promise!


Couple of things about the paintings...unfortunately some of the stuff we are noticing (namely the Desmond Hatch painting looking like Thomas' paintings) are simply due to them being done by the same artist in real life. However...

Unless the painting in Widmore's office was specifically commissioned to contain the word "Namaste" and a polar bear, then Thomas has been to the island.

And what about that upside-down statue? Is it possible that it is the rest of the statue that we saw at the end of season 2? Is so, then Thomas is older than he looks--maybe he is whatever Richard is.

Originally Posted by erikau

Another interesting thought: In looking up stuff on Thomas in Lostpedia, I was reminded of something from "Raised by Another." When Claire is actually about to sign over her baby to the potential adoptive parents, what stops her is that two different pens that she tries won't work as she tries to sign her name. She sees it as a bad omen and leaves. Was it the Island, messing with the pens as it would later mess with the gun that Michael tries to kill himself with, and the accident that distracts Jack? Was this a really early example of the Island stepping in and pushing along Claire's fate? If so, it's really cool, because it 100% suggests that the Island or whatever has always been keeping an eye on and expecting Claire...

I think that you are right about that. At the time it seemed just a little strange, but given what we now know about malfunctioning guns, it could mean something.