Number 6 is Aaron - The Final Word

Briiiii · 03-14-2008, 02:55 PM

Why do so many people have a problem accepting that Aaron is number 6. Is it that people want so bad for someone else to survive that they are hold out hope for their favorite castaway to pop up in flash forward? Please let go.

It was said in the previews that we now know all six. I think we can take them at their word. Do you really accept that this could be some sort of a big screw up?

What is all this about Aaron not being on the plane because he was not on the manifest? He was on the plane. Just because he was in the womb doesn't disqualify him from being a passenger. He was as much a passenger as anyone on that manifest.

Why wouldn't the media and the public at large consider a child who was on the plane, no matter what the manifest says, to be counted as a person. Why do the 6 HAVE to be adults.

Will it help any of you accept it if we propose that Claire was one of the 8 survivors in the cover story that survived the initial crash. Since 8 survived and only 6 made it back to the mainland. How about we say that Claire is one of the 8 and then dies during childbirth.

Problem solved.

Now I don't want to hear anything more about this.

Carlos. · 03-14-2008, 03:02 PM

unfortunately i'll have to agree with you....the producers hav said in a podcast you'll know all 6 by ep 7 so it has to be....

i just feel jipped cos Aarons not REALY a character!....he's a prop more than anything

LiveTogetherDieAlone815 · 03-14-2008, 03:20 PM

I think Aaron being in the oceanic six is obviously a good thing, because it stays true to the fact that everyone has a reason to go back.

Jack - to right some obvious wrong that he, and the six, made by leaving the island
Kate - Sawyer, as well as fixing the mistake said above.
Hurley - to stop Charlie from haunting him, haha. But also to fix the said mistake
Sun - possibly to get Jin back, being as it's more than likely he is still on the island.
Sayid - right the wrong, as he has been doing by being Ben's assassin.
Aaron - to be reunited with his mother, although he isn't really old enough to comprehend this.

I also wanted to comment on the revelation of the Oceanic Six. Obviously since Michael isn't one of the six, it pretty much spells out that Ben is the man in the coffin. The reason I say this is because if Michael had indeed gotten off island, he would have to eventually confess to the name of Michael Dawson, opposed to Kevin Johnson. Also, any man who would in fact be on the plane and some how get off would be identified as someone who would be on the plain's manifest.

I could, obviously, be wrong tho haha

Pitchy · 03-14-2008, 03:28 PM

I still have hope that somewhere along the line, wild dingos will come out from the jungle and eat Aaron... just so I can hear Claire scream THE DINGOS GOT MY BABY

Carlos. · 03-14-2008, 03:56 PM

an then Jim Robinson can swoop from the sky and wrestle the dingo and then die of a severly over acted hart attack

Canesrule · 03-14-2008, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Briiiii

Why do so many people have a problem accepting that Aaron is number 6. Is it that people want so bad for someone else to survive that they are hold out hope for their favorite castaway to pop up in flash forward? Please let go.

It was said in the previews that we now know all six. I think we can take them at their word. Do you really accept that this could be some sort of a big screw up?

What is all this about Aaron not being on the plane because he was not on the manifest? He was on the plane. Just because he was in the womb doesn't disqualify him from being a passenger. He was as much a passenger as anyone on that manifest.

Why wouldn't the media and the public at large consider a child who was on the plane, no matter what the manifest says, to be counted as a person. Why do the 6 HAVE to be adults.

Will it help any of you accept it if we propose that Claire was one of the 8 survivors in the cover story that survived the initial crash. Since 8 survived and only 6 made it back to the mainland. How about we say that Claire is one of the 8 and then dies during childbirth.

Problem solved.

Now I don't want to hear anything more about this.

I love you! I've been saying this for weeks now....

Desi's Brother · 03-14-2008, 05:33 PM

THANK YOU!!! DEAL WITH IT PEOPLE WHAT IS THE PROBLEM!!!

I still hope Desmond gets off the island, but as long as he is still alive I'm ok.

I don't think there is any reason to think Ben is in the coffin more than anyone else. Michael could easily hide under a new name.

The producers said that next season is all about why they need to get back. That sounds interesting. I'm sure it is way more complicated than simply "I have to get Jin back" or reconnecting claire and Aaron. Those would be lame reasons.

I think the Oceanic 6 make some kind of deal with the devil and seem at least at first to be accepting the deal they have made. The only other scenario I can think of is those are the six people who happen to be standing next to the helicopter when they have to steal it.

michckay · 03-14-2008, 11:14 PM

Ugh, I would be okay if I never saw Aaron again.

lost_grrl · 03-15-2008, 12:20 AM

I now accept that Aaron is number 6 (but secretly hold out some hope that he isn't), but I don't like it as a plot devise because, as others have said, he is not a character. And I stand by the contention that he was not on the plane. If a plane crashes with 300 people on it and one of the women is pregnant, then they don't say "301 people died in a plane crash", so if he isn't a person for the purposes of NOT surviving, then why is he a person when counting survivors? If they found and counted the survivors before she gave birth, it would be 5 survivors, one of them pregnant. Not 6 survivors. And what is his legal nationality? How can you survive a crash on an island that happened before you were even born on that same island

Had the writers not created "The Oceanic 6" label, then fine. He is clearly rescued, but wasn't-- legally speaking--on the plane. A person is not a person until they are born (I am talking for legal purposes here, not looking for a debate about when life begins). And what is his legal nationality/citizenship? Is he Islander (Whatever the island is called where he actually became a person), Oceanic (where he was, according to writers, a person), Australian(mum's nationality), American (place they were going)???

I know, I know, just accept it and move on...but you will never convince me that he was technically a passenger on that plane. As I said--fetuses are not counted as people in any other tallying of persons in a place, so it shouldn't be done here.

Perhaps they are going to alter the manifest to include Aaron if the time issue is actually a real deal and he is older in real life than he should be by the island crash time line. THAT wold please me more than the current explanation because it seems less of a cop-out/mind-game.

FutureSounds · 03-15-2008, 05:52 AM

How is Aaron the sixth? Jin got off too. Or did it say on his stone a date that he had died on the island?

03-14-2008, 02:55 PM	#1
Briiiii Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 13	Number 6 is Aaron - The Final Word Why do so many people have a problem accepting that Aaron is number 6. Is it that people want so bad for someone else to survive that they are hold out hope for their favorite castaway to pop up in flash forward? Please let go. It was said in the previews that we now know all six. I think we can take them at their word. Do you really accept that this could be some sort of a big screw up? What is all this about Aaron not being on the plane because he was not on the manifest? He was on the plane. Just because he was in the womb doesn't disqualify him from being a passenger. He was as much a passenger as anyone on that manifest. Why wouldn't the media and the public at large consider a child who was on the plane, no matter what the manifest says, to be counted as a person. Why do the 6 HAVE to be adults. Will it help any of you accept it if we propose that Claire was one of the 8 survivors in the cover story that survived the initial crash. Since 8 survived and only 6 made it back to the mainland. How about we say that Claire is one of the 8 and then dies during childbirth. Problem solved. Now I don't want to hear anything more about this.

03-14-2008, 03:20 PM	#3
LiveTogetherDieAlone815 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 14	I think Aaron being in the oceanic six is obviously a good thing, because it stays true to the fact that everyone has a reason to go back. Jack - to right some obvious wrong that he, and the six, made by leaving the island Kate - Sawyer, as well as fixing the mistake said above. Hurley - to stop Charlie from haunting him, haha. But also to fix the said mistake Sun - possibly to get Jin back, being as it's more than likely he is still on the island. Sayid - right the wrong, as he has been doing by being Ben's assassin. Aaron - to be reunited with his mother, although he isn't really old enough to comprehend this. I also wanted to comment on the revelation of the Oceanic Six. Obviously since Michael isn't one of the six, it pretty much spells out that Ben is the man in the coffin. The reason I say this is because if Michael had indeed gotten off island, he would have to eventually confess to the name of Michael Dawson, opposed to Kevin Johnson. Also, any man who would in fact be on the plane and some how get off would be identified as someone who would be on the plain's manifest. I could, obviously, be wrong tho haha __________________

03-14-2008, 03:28 PM	#4
Pitchy Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 1,116	I still have hope that somewhere along the line, wild dingos will come out from the jungle and eat Aaron... just so I can hear Claire scream THE DINGOS GOT MY BABY __________________ "See you guys at dinner..."

03-14-2008, 05:33 PM	#7
Desi's Brother Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 379	THANK YOU!!! DEAL WITH IT PEOPLE WHAT IS THE PROBLEM!!! I still hope Desmond gets off the island, but as long as he is still alive I'm ok. I don't think there is any reason to think Ben is in the coffin more than anyone else. Michael could easily hide under a new name. The producers said that next season is all about why they need to get back. That sounds interesting. I'm sure it is way more complicated than simply "I have to get Jin back" or reconnecting claire and Aaron. Those would be lame reasons. I think the Oceanic 6 make some kind of deal with the devil and seem at least at first to be accepting the deal they have made. The only other scenario I can think of is those are the six people who happen to be standing next to the helicopter when they have to steal it. __________________

03-14-2008, 11:14 PM	#8
michckay Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 54	Ugh, I would be okay if I never saw Aaron again. __________________ If we survive this, if we survive tonight, we're gonna have a Locke problem.

03-14-2008, 03:02 PM	#2
Carlos. Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 11	unfortunately i'll have to agree with you....the producers hav said in a podcast you'll know all 6 by ep 7 so it has to be.... i just feel jipped cos Aarons not REALY a character!....he's a prop more than anything

03-14-2008, 03:56 PM	#5
Carlos. Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 11	an then Jim Robinson can swoop from the sky and wrestle the dingo and then die of a severly over acted hart attack

03-15-2008, 12:20 AM	#9
lost_grrl Lost Administrator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Earth...I think Posts: 774	I now accept that Aaron is number 6 (but secretly hold out some hope that he isn't), but I don't like it as a plot devise because, as others have said, he is not a character. And I stand by the contention that he was not on the plane. If a plane crashes with 300 people on it and one of the women is pregnant, then they don't say "301 people died in a plane crash", so if he isn't a person for the purposes of NOT surviving, then why is he a person when counting survivors? If they found and counted the survivors before she gave birth, it would be 5 survivors, one of them pregnant. Not 6 survivors. And what is his legal nationality? How can you survive a crash on an island that happened before you were even born on that same island Had the writers not created "The Oceanic 6" label, then fine. He is clearly rescued, but wasn't-- legally speaking--on the plane. A person is not a person until they are born (I am talking for legal purposes here, not looking for a debate about when life begins). And what is his legal nationality/citizenship? Is he Islander (Whatever the island is called where he actually became a person), Oceanic (where he was, according to writers, a person), Australian(mum's nationality), American (place they were going)??? I know, I know, just accept it and move on...but you will never convince me that he was technically a passenger on that plane. As I said--fetuses are not counted as people in any other tallying of persons in a place, so it shouldn't be done here. Perhaps they are going to alter the manifest to include Aaron if the time issue is actually a real deal and he is older in real life than he should be by the island crash time line. THAT wold please me more than the current explanation because it seems less of a cop-out/mind-game.

03-15-2008, 05:52 AM	#10
FutureSounds Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 151	How is Aaron the sixth? Jin got off too. Or did it say on his stone a date that he had died on the island? __________________ * http://Www.MinusCelsius.Com *

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