Who Are The Oceanic 6--Next Week We Will Know For Sure! - Page 3

Desi's Brother · 02-22-2008, 09:12 AM

My point is, even if Aaron was not born at the time of the crash, he can still count as one of the oceanic 6.

We know that Kate pulled 5 people out of the water, but other two could easily have survived as well. we don't know that they died.

Carlos · 02-22-2008, 09:13 AM

ok...but why the whole testimany declaring 8 people survived, 2 then died, and her rescuing 5...it seemed like a nudge from the writers that aaron werent one

Carlos · 02-22-2008, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Desi's Brother

My point is, even if Aaron was not born at the time of the crash, he can still count as one of the oceanic 6.

We know that Kate pulled 5 people out of the water, but other two could easily have survived as well. we don't know that they died.

well no...they probably didnt since this is the cover up story!..we know that 60 odd people survived...but in terms of the cover up story we know that 8 people (not including aaron) survived the crash and that 6 where rescued....2 appear to have died or not been rescued leaving those said 6, which dont include aaron, being the most reasonable candidates for the Oceanic 6...

if we're gonna go deeper in an say, well one of those 6 might have then died later, resulting in Aaron replacing them in the 6, it seems like its all getting very convoluted for a cover story, we're forgeting this ISNT the real story...bearing in mind this is the suposed story Kate's heard jack say "so many times" ...its seems far more likely it would be a simple cover story...8 survived, 2 died in the water, the remaining 6 where rescued..rather than ..well 8 survived...then 2 died...then one more died, then a baby was born, then we found someone else, someone else died etc etc etc...its a cover story, not the real one, its meant to be simple to remember so everyone srticks to it

Canesrule · 02-22-2008, 09:33 AM

Carlos,

I think you're basing this on them being rescued in the present. I think they're rescued much later making these flashforwards recent. I believe they spend years on the island before being rescued. Aaron's age proves that.

What would happen if the flight had not crashed. Once they landed Kate would be in custody. Therefore based on Aaron's age there's no way Kate could be rescued and they let a fugitive murderess with a history of running roam free with an infant for 3 or 4 years before putting her into custody. They had to be rescued recently when Aaron was of the age where he recognizes Kate as his mother. Remember in the season finale Kate tells Jack "You know how he gets." If Jack's reluctant to see Aaron in the flash forwards, how would he know how Aaron gets unless Aaron grew up on the island before getting rescued.

The story is she rescued 5 and 8 survived. Jack was trying to boost up her heroism as well as conceal what went on on the island.

I think the story they're probably passing is that Kate was early in her pregnancy when they were extraditing her back to America. Maybe she didn't know she was pregnant herself. America and the Feds don't know if she wasn't. Nobody could know. She then rescued five of the eight survivors. After, she had Aaron and by the time of rescue only 6 were left to be rescued including Aaron who was on the flight but in utero thus he's part of the Oceanic Six.

That's the concocted story. The one they're using so that Kate can keep Aaron and not bring up questions as to who Aaron's real mother is.

I don't think ABC or the writers are lying. We do know that they said another member of the Oceanic six would be revealed and it was Aaron. We already knew Jack and Kate got off before we even learned there was an Oceanic Six. So the only island resident that made last night's episode that we haven't seen in a flash forward was Aaron. He's definitely one of the six.

Pitchy · 02-22-2008, 09:42 AM

Canesrule... first off, are you a hockey fan by chance? Canes rule makes me think of someone being a big fan of the Carolina Hurricanes and that's pretty damn cool

I went through a few promos at work and I can't find any that said a 5th member of the Oceanic 6 would be revealed... I am lucky enough to work for an ABC affiliate and it's possible one of the promos got lost back in production, but all the Lost promos that's on our server, none say anything about a 5th being revealed.

Aaron is not one of the 6!

LostFan27 · 02-22-2008, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitchy

Canesrule... first off, are you a hockey fan by chance? Canes rule makes me think of someone being a big fan of the Carolina Hurricanes and that's pretty damn cool

I went through a few promos at work and I can't find any that said a 5th member of the Oceanic 6 would be revealed... I am lucky enough to work for an ABC affiliate and it's possible one of the promos got lost back in production, but all the Lost promos that's on our server, none say anything about a 5th being revealed.

Aaron is not one of the 6!

I dont think it said a 5th would be revealed, but it said another would be revealed. And since people already were assuming Kate was one of the 6 per the s3 finale, they assume that the next 1 of 6 revealed would be the 5th (if that makes sense). When in reality, it could just be that they are reaffirming Kate being one of the Oceanic 6....but who knows for sure?

Canesrule · 02-22-2008, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitchy

Canesrule... first off, are you a hockey fan by chance? Canes rule makes me think of someone being a big fan of the Carolina Hurricanes and that's pretty damn cool

I went through a few promos at work and I can't find any that said a 5th member of the Oceanic 6 would be revealed... I am lucky enough to work for an ABC affiliate and it's possible one of the promos got lost back in production, but all the Lost promos that's on our server, none say anything about a 5th being revealed.

Aaron is not one of the 6!

Actually it's for the Miami Hurricanes but I have nothing against the Carolina Canes. A fine hockey club.

I could have sworn at the end of last week's episode they said a fifth would be revealed in the coming attractions. Wasn't that what people were discussing preshow and how the advert showed Kate and how we already knew Kate was one. Isn't that the impetus for all these Aaron posts? I believe we all went into last night's episode under the assumption a fifth would be revealed.

Pitchy · 02-22-2008, 09:52 AM

well those of us who are sneaky enough to read spoilers know who the 6 are and Aaron isn't on that list.

without giving you the answer to the final two, there was a conversation between 2 people and they said something along the lines that would indicate that they would be rescued 'we'll be on the freighter soon' or something to that degree.

Canesrule · 02-22-2008, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by LostFan27

I dont think it said a 5th would be revealed, but it said another would be revealed. And since people already were assuming Kate was one of the 6 per the s3 finale, they assume that the next 1 of 6 revealed would be the 5th (if that makes sense). When in reality, it could just be that they are reaffirming Kate being one of the Oceanic 6....but who knows for sure?

Exactly. You can't reveal someone we already know got off the island. We've seen 4 of the six and the only other island resident who was on the plane that we've seen in the flashforwards is Aaron. They said another would be revealed and it was Aaron.

Carlos · 02-22-2008, 09:59 AM

possibly...but not definately...Canesrule, your basing this on the fact that the Lost Writers write the ABC promos...they dont, & they've said before that sometimes ABC treads on their toes...i dont belive Aaron is one of the 6...why pretend one of the suposed 5 who kate rescued died later on...that would serve no purpose and only add to there being more information for the "oceanic 6" to remember..here's the transcript from jack testimony....

Clerk: Please raise your right hand...Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you god?

Jack: Yes

Lawyer: Dr. Shepard, could you please tell the ladies and gentlemen of the jury..if any of you dont read newspapers or the internet or watch television...how you met the defendant

Jack: Um...On September 22 2004 Kate...er.(smirks)...Ms Austen and I where both passengers on Oceanic Flight 815 which crash landed on an island in the South Pacific.

Lawyer: Where you aware that Ms Austen was a Fugetive being transported by a United States Marshal on that flight to Los Angeles for trial?

Jack: I did learn that eventualy yes.

Lawyer: From the U.S. Marshal?

Jack: No the Marshal died in the crash i never spoke to him..Ms Austen Told me

Lawyer: Did you ever ask her if she was guilty

Jack: No. Never

Lawyer: Well it seems like a reasonable question why not?

Jack: Well i just assumed there'd been some kind of mistake

Lawyer: And why would you think that?

Jack: Only 8 of us survived the Crash, we landed in the water. I was hurt. Pretty badly. In fact if it werent for her i would have never made it to the shore. She took care of me. She took care of all of us she....she gave us first aid, water, found food, made shelter...she tried to save the other 2 but they didnt...

Kate: Stop!

now to me...that sounds like "the other 2" may have died later on in the supposed events....if another had died, leaving 5, giving a spot to aaron...he surely would have said the other 3..."The Other 2" may now have died at the same time but died during their residence and being the brave leader she tried to save them....

02-22-2008, 09:12 AM	#21
Desi's Brother Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 379	My point is, even if Aaron was not born at the time of the crash, he can still count as one of the oceanic 6. We know that Kate pulled 5 people out of the water, but other two could easily have survived as well. we don't know that they died. __________________

02-22-2008, 09:42 AM	#25
Pitchy Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 1,116	Canesrule... first off, are you a hockey fan by chance? Canes rule makes me think of someone being a big fan of the Carolina Hurricanes and that's pretty damn cool I went through a few promos at work and I can't find any that said a 5th member of the Oceanic 6 would be revealed... I am lucky enough to work for an ABC affiliate and it's possible one of the promos got lost back in production, but all the Lost promos that's on our server, none say anything about a 5th being revealed. Aaron is not one of the 6! __________________ "See you guys at dinner..."

02-22-2008, 09:52 AM	#28
Pitchy Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 1,116	well those of us who are sneaky enough to read spoilers know who the 6 are and Aaron isn't on that list. without giving you the answer to the final two, there was a conversation between 2 people and they said something along the lines that would indicate that they would be rescued 'we'll be on the freighter soon' or something to that degree. __________________ "See you guys at dinner..."

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02-22-2008, 09:13 AM	#22
Carlos Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 65	ok...but why the whole testimany declaring 8 people survived, 2 then died, and her rescuing 5...it seemed like a nudge from the writers that aaron werent one

02-22-2008, 09:33 AM	#24
Canesrule Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 70	Carlos, I think you're basing this on them being rescued in the present. I think they're rescued much later making these flashforwards recent. I believe they spend years on the island before being rescued. Aaron's age proves that. What would happen if the flight had not crashed. Once they landed Kate would be in custody. Therefore based on Aaron's age there's no way Kate could be rescued and they let a fugitive murderess with a history of running roam free with an infant for 3 or 4 years before putting her into custody. They had to be rescued recently when Aaron was of the age where he recognizes Kate as his mother. Remember in the season finale Kate tells Jack "You know how he gets." If Jack's reluctant to see Aaron in the flash forwards, how would he know how Aaron gets unless Aaron grew up on the island before getting rescued. The story is she rescued 5 and 8 survived. Jack was trying to boost up her heroism as well as conceal what went on on the island. I think the story they're probably passing is that Kate was early in her pregnancy when they were extraditing her back to America. Maybe she didn't know she was pregnant herself. America and the Feds don't know if she wasn't. Nobody could know. She then rescued five of the eight survivors. After, she had Aaron and by the time of rescue only 6 were left to be rescued including Aaron who was on the flight but in utero thus he's part of the Oceanic Six. That's the concocted story. The one they're using so that Kate can keep Aaron and not bring up questions as to who Aaron's real mother is. I don't think ABC or the writers are lying. We do know that they said another member of the Oceanic six would be revealed and it was Aaron. We already knew Jack and Kate got off before we even learned there was an Oceanic Six. So the only island resident that made last night's episode that we haven't seen in a flash forward was Aaron. He's definitely one of the six.

02-22-2008, 09:59 AM	#30
Carlos Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 65	possibly...but not definately...Canesrule, your basing this on the fact that the Lost Writers write the ABC promos...they dont, & they've said before that sometimes ABC treads on their toes...i dont belive Aaron is one of the 6...why pretend one of the suposed 5 who kate rescued died later on...that would serve no purpose and only add to there being more information for the "oceanic 6" to remember..here's the transcript from jack testimony.... Clerk: Please raise your right hand...Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you god? Jack: Yes Lawyer: Dr. Shepard, could you please tell the ladies and gentlemen of the jury..if any of you dont read newspapers or the internet or watch television...how you met the defendant Jack: Um...On September 22 2004 Kate...er.(smirks)...Ms Austen and I where both passengers on Oceanic Flight 815 which crash landed on an island in the South Pacific. Lawyer: Where you aware that Ms Austen was a Fugetive being transported by a United States Marshal on that flight to Los Angeles for trial? Jack: I did learn that eventualy yes. Lawyer: From the U.S. Marshal? Jack: No the Marshal died in the crash i never spoke to him..Ms Austen Told me Lawyer: Did you ever ask her if she was guilty Jack: No. Never Lawyer: Well it seems like a reasonable question why not? Jack: Well i just assumed there'd been some kind of mistake Lawyer: And why would you think that? Jack: Only 8 of us survived the Crash, we landed in the water. I was hurt. Pretty badly. In fact if it werent for her i would have never made it to the shore. She took care of me. She took care of all of us she....she gave us first aid, water, found food, made shelter...she tried to save the other 2 but they didnt... Kate: Stop! now to me...that sounds like "the other 2" may have died later on in the supposed events....if another had died, leaving 5, giving a spot to aaron...he surely would have said the other 3..."The Other 2" may now have died at the same time but died during their residence and being the brave leader she tried to save them....