Old 05-10-2007, 02:45 PM   #11
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"Ben is the age we know him at, but he is still about twenty years in the past" I think there are two possible reasons for that(a la Rick, who I agree with about Ben hearing not hearing). A: Ben didn'age too at that time, just like Richard. Or the more likely B: that Ben was about a 20-30 years old young man, not the age we know him, they just couldn't possibly cast sy else for the role, because the difference would be evident, nor could they make him look younger. The way he talked with his father was of a young man's manner.
(Just like that Harry Potter look. ;P )
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Old 05-10-2007, 05:30 PM   #12
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I think some of you are missing the subtleties of the plot. Richard has shown a keen interest in Locke, to the extent of subverting Ben's authority. In flashback, we know that Richard's interest was piqued in Ben as soon as he found out the lad had seen a manifestation of his mother. Also, Tom and Richard refused to intervene and follow Ben's orders when Locke attacked Mikhail. All signs of dissent. The basis for the dissent is that Ben has failed to deliver. Ben has an agenda all his own and uses the rouse of being in contact with Jacob to continue his agenda. His agenda was made clear when he first met Richard, he is looking for his mother. This also explains why he gave up walt so easily. He did not want the competition. If Alpert had found out that Locke heard Jacob say something that Ben did not hear, he would be out of there. As for Ben not aging, I'd be surprised if they didn't at least try to color out his grey hair. There was no attempt to make him look younger.
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Old 05-10-2007, 05:35 PM   #13
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Just some food for thought. Look at how closely Ben and Locke's lives mirror one another. Both had mothers named Emily who did not raise them. Both were expected to kill their fathers. Both exhibited the ability to commune with the island, although with Locke's paralysis being cured, it seems he had a better relationship. It is almost like the others are looking for someone who fits certain criteria, perhaps a prophecy exists. They may deify Jacob, and the 'special' one who can commune with Jacob is their version of the messiah. The big question is, what are they expecting out of the deal... that is probably what comprises the end game.
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Old 05-10-2007, 10:04 PM   #14
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The incident that was written on the blast door was still a DHARMA incident. I don't think it had anything to do with the hostiles. I believe DHAMRA was on the island for many, many years before Ben and his father showed up. If you look at the maps that were found, it shows a tunnel system that goes to each station. If the hostiles taking over were the incident, then why did they have the minivans? The incident caused all the tunnels to be sealed. Could Smokey be the incident? Also, why didn't they kill kelvin when they took over the camp? They took over the other hatches, and they knew about the Swan. Apparntly they did not know the full effect of not pushing the button, so why not get Kelvin? He knew about the hostiles. Also, Ben doesn't know everything about the island because of his "workman" status as a DHARMA person. And who is financing the hostiles? They took over DHARMA on the island and still had outside contact. I think the Widmore's are involved. Why the food
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Old 05-10-2007, 10:06 PM   #15
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cut off there...too many questions. Why are the food drops still taking place? Did the DHARMA on the main land get taken over too?
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Old 05-10-2007, 10:10 PM   #16
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The scene where Ben is in class learning about how the island was formed from a volcano, made me remember this website. Really good theories. Half way down, it talks about the volcano.

http://losthematheory.com/default.aspx
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Old 05-11-2007, 08:36 AM   #17
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I believe that they did give Ben some more hair doing the flash back. I remember when he was talking to his father, as his father was loading the bear in the van, that His hairline was not as receding as 'current day' Ben.
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Old 05-11-2007, 12:34 PM   #18
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So what if Rousseau is Annie (d-ANNIE-lle) and she was telling the truth about crashing on the Island.

Clearly the Dhrarma people could come and go. Maybe Danielle when off to college and her parents stayed on the island.

Ben waited for "Annie" to run off to college before he did the purge saving the one "good person" that was part of Dharma.

But a few years go by and Danielle wants to go see her parents but won't be let back on the island (after all she is pregers with their grandchild). So she hires a group of men to help her get back. They do and the other kill them off except for d-Annie-lle. Ben can't kill the one person that cared truly for him. But he can't let her be part of the group. So he takes her baby and sends her off to die on her own on the island.

I don't know just my theory.
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Old 05-11-2007, 03:34 PM   #19
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What ever happened to Walt & Dad??? Did they just disappear into nothing on the boat???? Will they find help? and if so, send it back to the island???
I really need answers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 05-11-2007, 10:11 PM   #20
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Well the biblical inferenece of Jacob and Ben is even more clear now: according to the web site www.aboutbibleprophecy.com: Benjamin, was the twelfth and youngest son of Jacob. His mother was Rachel, Jacob's wife. Benjamin was born during the journey that Jacob and his family took from Padan Aram to Canaan. His mother Rachel named him "Ben-oni," meaning "Son of my sorrow," before she died during the childbirth, but Jacob called him Benjamin. Joseph, Benjamin's brother was sold into slavery by his other brothers.

Joseph later became prime minister of Egypt, and when Joseph's brothers refused to abandon Benjamin, after Joseph put them to a test, Joseph realized his brothers had a change of heart and were willing to risk their lives for their youngest brother. Through this test, the whole family of Jacob was joyously reunited.

When Jacob blesses his 12 sons, in Genesis 49, he describes Benjamin as a wolf that prowls, devouring his enemies in the morning and dividing up the spoils
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