2004 tsunami

[tobe romero]

Originally Posted by mugatu22

The island is far too large to be destroyed by the '04 tsunami, but excellent point about the Black Rock being in the middle of the island DUE TO a tsunami...that just clicked in my mind and I had a "duhh!!" moment.

I didn't say anything about the tsunami of 2004 destroying the island, BUT maybe it caused it because one of the major Dharma areas was/is weather control, maybe Locke created it to make it harder for people from coming to the island, maybe it disrupts the freighter, maybe people from the future were sent back to stop the island from creating the tsunami... I don't know how, I just know it will be part of the storyline. Has to be.

[Pitchy]

I highly doubt the island is off the coast of Bali and near the Sunda Trench.

The plane would have had to have warped to get there. The island is near Fiji. We know this because this is the last thing the pilot said, that they turned to land in Fiji and were 1000 miles off course... and Fiji was the port where Michael joined the crew of the Kahana.

See my map I made to detail why the island is not near Bali / Sunda Trench and why any effects of the Tsunami if felt would be minimum.

http://pitchforkjesus.com/images/Los...ong-Update.png

[tobe romero]

I thought it showed couple of episodes ago on a map that the freighter (which left Fuji) was in the Bali/Sunda area (transported by following a prescribed heading) which is in the area where the island is ... I subscribe to the "warp" factor. If time can be manipulated in the this show, then why not space?

or did I imagine they showed their location (the boat) on a map was just south of Bali?

[Pitchy]

Why would you go to all the trouble to hide a fake crash if you are going to put it right next to where the real crash is?

[tobe romero]

Originally Posted by Pitchy

Why would you go to all the trouble to hide a fake crash if you are going to put it right next to where the real crash is?

because it's brilliant?

[tobe romero]

Originally Posted by tobe romero

because it's brilliant?

also the outside world is not able to find the island without doing what ever the secret way is, so it wouldn't matter if the fake crash was right under the real crash because the rest of the world can't see where they really are & would never know, plus they have strongly discouraged future explorers from the area just in case they stumble on a way to access the island

[Pitchy]

LOL

I doubt they would want to risk someone accidentally discovering the island that way. But it would be kind of funny in a way.

[tobe romero]

it's like when you lose your car keys ... they are always in the last place you'd look (well duh, because why would you keep looking if you found the things) of course it's gonna be the last place you looked .. unless you also own an invisible island and stuff



Anyway, go 2004 Tsunami theory!

[Talontbo]

hey Pitchy..

looked at your map... excellent work.. but may still be a bit off.... here is why...

Your 1000mile radius is based on Fiji as you center... because the plane was rerouting to Fiji...

How would Fiji be a center if it hadn't made it there??? see what i mean

if you take your course correction from Sydney to LA... and factor in Fiji... the plabe would have made a SSE correction or Easterly of they had not gotten past Fiji... or as you have shown... and seems to be the thought that abounds.. the plane past Fiji and Turned Back... I buy this...

so... if they lined up on Fiji... and their original flight path took them approx. 300 north of Fiji on the way to LA... when returning... and a line to Fiji... that would allow for another 300 mile arc in all Southernly directions approx plus the 1000miles..... and... if the strayed North of the flight path to Fiji... it would allow for a full 1000 mile arc north of the original flight path to LA... or 1300 miles from Fiji in all Northernly direction approx...

I looked all over for a map like your.... and wasn't able to locate one.. well done...

as for the Fake 815 in the Sunda/Java Trench... frankly I fond it a silly place to put it... it screams INVESTIGATION!!!!... why would a plane East Bound out of Sydney end up several thousand miles NNW of Sydney and thats not even considering other major cities that would be encountered on the way...

Taking the flight path from Sydney and a possible turn around path to Fiji... and the 1000 miles off course... It would seem reasonable to conclude that there could be as much as a 2300mile variance... but a minimum of 2000 miles... 1000 North and 1000 South... not factoring possible Easterly or Westerly... especially not Easterly.. as they turned around..

of course this theory is speculation... But your map is fantastic.. thanks for assembling it...

I like the the Idea of North of the Fiji Flight Path.... only because the Black Rock was observed departing Papua New Guinea in an Easterly direction....

[Pitchy]

But they had already passed Fiji... the pilot sad they "turned back to land in Fiji" and said that they were a 1000 miles off course, so in one aspect I would have to put a huge radius of 1000 miles either side of the flight path line.

I probably could update it to show that, but given that I used Fiji as the reference point and we use some of the numbers from Find815 as lat/long, that puts us right in the northern part of my radius.

I did that map back in S3 when Naomi revealed the fake815 crash off the coast of Bali, I did a little update to after Find815 to include the point where the fake crash was found.