What did we learn from epi 3? Locke is truly a sucker.

JasonG · 10-19-2006, 06:19 AM

This was a great Locke episode... It showed how locke is supposedly some big bad tough guy hunter, but yet everything we know about him from his time on the island is false.

Why?

Because in his "previous" life he was a sucker who got taken advantage of constantly.

RaZrEsHaT · 10-19-2006, 10:10 AM

As was posted in a different thread already: I think that Locke is finally being who he has always wanted to be. On the island he is completely cut off from who he was, and it has freed him to be the man he has always wanted to be. Sure, he studied and learned about survival skills, etc...but he was always unable to be the person who used those skills. But with complete annonymity amongst the survivors he can be that man.

10-19-2006, 12:20 PM

I agree, on the island John is free to be a hunter. On the island he's not looking to be led -- he's a leader. He's like the island shaman - going on vision quests and communing with nature. In the real world he was always seeking affirmation and love, looking for a leader, he was always being taken advantage of, used, underestimated -- free from the real world he can be who he was meant to be. John's primitive nature has saved them many times and will continue to do so... That's my 2 cents.

Love~N~Lost · 10-19-2006, 01:48 PM

Well locke is only a leader 'cause jack is gone. Before he was following jack, but now he does get the chance to finnaly be a leader

10-19-2006, 05:03 PM

When they had Ben (aka Henry) in the gun safe thingy Locke was already starting to rebel away form Jacks orders.

Fernando · 10-19-2006, 05:05 PM

Is it wrong that I really wanted Locke to shoot the kid? ...lol

Shogun_Sushi · 10-19-2006, 06:05 PM

No, I wanted Locke to shoot the kid as well, to add more depth to his story. and for everyone thinking he is not a sucker nemore. imo hes even more of a sucker. he follows the god damn island. remember in Season 1 someone named Boone DIED because locke wanted to follow the island. and remember the only time locke was being the leader was when he refused to push the button, look what happened there. Locke by far is not a leader, he may be the leader of the losties but he follows the island. and if the island demands kate to be sacrificed locke would do it, would any of you do it?

RaZrEsHaT · 10-20-2006, 06:05 AM

But was Locke a sucker because the undercover cop fooled him, or because his commune friends did? In way, they betrayed him much worse than that kid did. They sold him a lifestyle that was merely a front for their drug operation, the kid was just doing his job.

cfette · 10-20-2006, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Erin_Kelzo

I agree, on the island John is free to be a hunter. On the island he's not looking to be led -- he's a leader. He's like the island shaman - going on vision quests and communing with nature. In the real world he was always seeking affirmation and love, looking for a leader, he was always being taken advantage of, used, underestimated -- free from the real world he can be who he was meant to be. John's primitive nature has saved them many times and will continue to do so... That's my 2 cents.

I dont think that Locke is a leader... some of the survivors may now be looking to him for leadership, but only because Jack, kate, Sawyer, and Sayid are gone...

Locke is more of a loner who has and is going to be doing his own thing according to what he thinks he should do, or what he thinks the island wants him to do...

I agree that Locke can now be who he wants to be, but that person isnt a leader, imo, but more of a stand-alone man that doesnt need others, and has faith.

10-20-2006, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by cfette

I dont think that Locke is a leader... some of the survivors may now be looking to him for leadership, but only because Jack, kate, Sawyer, and Sayid are gone...

Locke is more of a loner who has and is going to be doing his own thing according to what he thinks he should do, or what he thinks the island wants him to do...

I agree that Locke can now be who he wants to be, but that person isnt a leader, imo, but more of a stand-alone man that doesnt need others, and has faith.

Thinking about it, I see your point. He's not necessarily a leader of the people, but you gotta admit that on the island he much more of a backbone. He was starting to stand up to Jackers re: leadership decisions.

I still say that he's the island's version of a Shaman -- let's just hope that the Island doesn't waylay him like everyone else.

10-19-2006, 06:19 AM	#1
JasonG Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 8	What did we learn from epi 3? Locke is truly a sucker. This was a great Locke episode... It showed how locke is supposedly some big bad tough guy hunter, but yet everything we know about him from his time on the island is false. Why? Because in his "previous" life he was a sucker who got taken advantage of constantly.

10-19-2006, 01:48 PM	#4
Love~N~Lost Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 206	Well locke is only a leader 'cause jack is gone. Before he was following jack, but now he does get the chance to finnaly be a leader __________________ I think

10-19-2006, 05:05 PM	#6
Fernando Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 670	Is it wrong that I really wanted Locke to shoot the kid? ...lol __________________ please read sig rules

10-19-2006, 06:05 PM	#7
Shogun_Sushi Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 127	No, I wanted Locke to shoot the kid as well, to add more depth to his story. and for everyone thinking he is not a sucker nemore. imo hes even more of a sucker. he follows the god damn island. remember in Season 1 someone named Boone DIED because locke wanted to follow the island. and remember the only time locke was being the leader was when he refused to push the button, look what happened there. Locke by far is not a leader, he may be the leader of the losties but he follows the island. and if the island demands kate to be sacrificed locke would do it, would any of you do it? __________________ ba ba BOOM

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10-19-2006, 10:10 AM	#2
RaZrEsHaT Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 155	As was posted in a different thread already: I think that Locke is finally being who he has always wanted to be. On the island he is completely cut off from who he was, and it has freed him to be the man he has always wanted to be. Sure, he studied and learned about survival skills, etc...but he was always unable to be the person who used those skills. But with complete annonymity amongst the survivors he can be that man.

10-19-2006, 12:20 PM	#3
Erin_Kelzo Posts: n/a	I agree, on the island John is free to be a hunter. On the island he's not looking to be led -- he's a leader. He's like the island shaman - going on vision quests and communing with nature. In the real world he was always seeking affirmation and love, looking for a leader, he was always being taken advantage of, used, underestimated -- free from the real world he can be who he was meant to be. John's primitive nature has saved them many times and will continue to do so... That's my 2 cents.

10-19-2006, 05:03 PM	#5
Danni_1991 Posts: n/a	When they had Ben (aka Henry) in the gun safe thingy Locke was already starting to rebel away form Jacks orders.

10-20-2006, 06:05 AM	#8
RaZrEsHaT Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 155	But was Locke a sucker because the undercover cop fooled him, or because his commune friends did? In way, they betrayed him much worse than that kid did. They sold him a lifestyle that was merely a front for their drug operation, the kid was just doing his job.