Wild episode

[JasonG]

Originally Posted by Bunny Suction

I totally agree on the Nikki and Paulo introduction... unbelievably lame to the point of just being awkward. Oddly enough I thought Hurley carried this episode. The scripting and/or delivery of many of Charlie and Boone's lines was sub-par and once again we have Charlie following the central character around as if the writers just wanted to fit him in somehow. I also thought this week's flashback was one of the weaker ones thus far in the series. To me at least, the plot progression was very predictable and revealed no new information. The tie to what was going on in the present day was tenuous at best. Not to mention that seeing Locke involved in a drug operation, and then pulling a gun on a police officer to save his drug-running friends because they were the only people who showed him any sort of sense of belonging, and then not having the spine to pull the trigger... to me that defeated the whole apparent purpose of this episode, which was to show that badass mystical hunter Locke is back. Don't get me wrong. I did not want to see Locke pull that trigger. I just think the whole flashback should have been re-thought in the first place. Finally, the hype for this episode was enormous. People expected BIG things, because this was a Locke episode, and Locke episodes never fail to deliver in a major way. Big expectations lead to big letdowns. Plus I'm sure it didn't help the audience's perception of the episode that for weeks before the episode aired the prevailing and thought-to-be-official rumor was that this would be the episode where we learned how Locke got in the wheelchair, only to find out the day before the episode aired that this rumor was in fact false. Guess that's what we get for reading spoilers.

Don't mind me. I'm just cranky.

Are you nuts? This was a great Locke episode... It showed how locke is supposedly some big bad tough guy hunter, but yet everything we know about him from his time on the island is false. Why? Because in his "previous" life he was a sucker who got taken advantage of constantly.

[lerker]

Originally Posted by Fernando

But Locke saw him in the beginning, He tried to call for him.

Yeah, I'm an idiot... sorry about that.

[cfette]

Originally Posted by JasonG

Are you nuts? This was a great Locke episode... It showed how locke is supposedly some big bad tough guy hunter, but yet everything we know about him from his time on the island is false. Why? Because in his "previous" life he was a sucker who got taken advantage of constantly.

you know what this reminds me of? the movie the Postman with Costner...

that one guy in the movie who is in charge of that army was a copier salesman prior to the war and aftermatch of the war... and he talks about how the war allowed him to realize his destiny/true calling of being an army general/leader

I wonder if the same thing is happening to Locke... he strived his entire life to be accepted somehow and have a "family" that he could bond with, but he was always being taken advantage of... he hunted and played war games and wanted to go on a walkabout in Aussie because he "thinks" that he can do all of that stuff... but whenever he was faced with being "that person" in real life, he was either duped by someone, taken advantage of, or didnt have the balls to do something drastic.

now, he is basically given another chance to be who he thinks he is supposed to be on this island...

[Bunny Suction]

Originally Posted by JasonG

Are you nuts? This was a great Locke episode... It showed how locke is supposedly some big bad tough guy hunter, but yet everything we know about him from his time on the island is false. Why? Because in his "previous" life he was a sucker who got taken advantage of constantly.

Yeah but we knew that about Locke two or three flashbacks ago. It seemed strange to me that they would drill home the point for the thirtieth time that Locke used to be a sucker. It was like, okay we get it... Locke was a wuss... I thought we were moving away from all that. Which we are, in the present day, but to drill the past wussiness home yet again in the flashback seemed counter-productive to the character moving forward.

[RaZrEsHaT]

Originally Posted by cfette

you know what this reminds me of? the movie the Postman with Costner...

that one guy in the movie who is in charge of that army was a copier salesman prior to the war and aftermatch of the war... and he talks about how the war allowed him to realize his destiny/true calling of being an army general/leader

I wonder if the same thing is happening to Locke... he strived his entire life to be accepted somehow and have a "family" that he could bond with, but he was always being taken advantage of... he hunted and played war games and wanted to go on a walkabout in Aussie because he "thinks" that he can do all of that stuff... but whenever he was faced with being "that person" in real life, he was either duped by someone, taken advantage of, or didnt have the balls to do something drastic.

now, he is basically given another chance to be who he thinks he is supposed to be on this island...

That has been my thinking about the character for quite a while. I think that is why he had such trouble last season after finding the Pearl Station, basically that his confidence was rattled and he was suddenly not sure if he was being dupped again.

[fishhead202]

Originally Posted by RaZrEsHaT

That has been my thinking about the character for quite a while. I think that is why he had such trouble last season after finding the Pearl Station, basically that his confidence was rattled and he was suddenly not sure if he was being dupped again.

Good call there. Explains his overreaction at least.

The different parts of his life are starting to piece together.

I'm gonna throw something out there.......

Locke has been duped by everyone he has trusted, except for Jane (Peg Bundy/Leela - I think I got the character name wrong). But he lost her due to trusting his dad. I don't think I've heard this before, but I'm going with a failed suicide attempt. Jumps, breaks his back, but doesn't die. Through rehab, he starts playing these war games. He gets set up with an easy job at the paper company, and he accepts the hand life has dealt him, although obviously not happy with it. After getting 'dumped' by the phone sex girl, maybe even fired, he stumbles across the walkabout ad. He makes that his obsession, and that's where he hones his hunting skills (I think he says something like he'd been training for 6 months for it).

--Fishhead

[Fernando]

Originally Posted by lerker

Yeah, I'm an idiot... sorry about that.

Nah, I actually wanted to agree with you.. 'Cause it would have made sense.

[desertrose]

Something about Hurley I just don't trust -- he's not "all there" and did he say DeJaVu @ end because he IS the only one who notices half-nekkid Desmond? Good grief dude!

[CandelMarvin]

Originally Posted by desertrose

Something about Hurley I just don't trust -- he's not "all there" and did he say DeJaVu @ end because he IS the only one who notices half-nekkid Desmond? Good grief dude!

No he says "De Javu" because he doesn't want to tell Charlie that Desmond 'predicted' Locke was going to give that speech.

[ani]

Deja Vu

Deja = already
Vu = seen

Hurley says it because he has the feeling he's kinda been here before.

*edit:
I wonder what the French say when they get deja vu. .