I have a good theory, and I'd like it to be heard.

About a lot of things. First of all, why the plane crashed on the island.

I believe Locke didn't realize the implications of his words "the island brought us here"
Think about the fact that the inside of the hatch is an electromagnetic station. Whenever Jack gets close to it, his necklace starts getting more attracted to it. Well what if it pulsates like most electromagnetic stations do. Maybe it sent waves strong enough to attract a 777 jumbojet that was just a little off course crashing into the island. I know that sounds a little farfetched to say that it was powerful enough to pull a plane down but think about it. The island seems to be nothing but a big experiment anyway. Maybe if the button is not pushed every 108 minutes it sends off another huge electromagnetic wave, one big enough to bring a plane down. Remember they have found at least one other plane on the island, the drug smugglers, it might possibly have been brought down by an electromagnetic wave too.

While the button pushing might not have anything to do with an electromagnetic wave, I do believe that at some point or another, the fact that they are doing electromagnetic experiments on the island DID bring the plane down. Locke said it himself, the "island brough them there."

Also Oceanic-Air was founded in 1980, the same time the electromagnetic compound on the island was founded. Remember the orientation video was from 1980. Also it has been shown that the plane has the Dharma Initiative Logo on the fuselage.

If what I have said is true, then all of the survivors may in fact be part of a larger experiment. Think about it, the best way to conduct an experiment is to not allow the test subjects to know they are being tested. I'd say if they were being tested, then they have absolutely no idea!

What does everyone else think about this?

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[HAL 9000]

I think you're on the right track. I've believed all along that the crash was not an accident.

Remember the wierd look Desmond gave Jack when he was told that the plane crashed 44 days ago? How much do you want to bet that was when Kelvin died (or slipped away) and the only time that Desmond didn't get the numbers punched in on time. And that allowed the electromagnetic generator to run full out and snatch our guys from the friendly skies.

Or possible 'release' the security system from stasis, allowing it to run amock. Anyway, I'd be willing to bet that Desmond screwed things up, and that's why he made a fast get away when he was discovered.

How much do you want to bet that was when Kelvin died (or slipped away) and the only time that Desmond didn't get the numbers punched in on time.

Wouldn't this make it an "accident" though? I think something closer to the lines of what jeepsta suggested is going on here. A huge social experiment that failed and has been abandoned, yet the implications of the experiment continue to effect people. Like the experiment is running itself or something.

It's also been suggested that Mr. and Mrs. DeGroots are actually on the island...

[HAL 9000]

Well, obviously you're right; that would have been an accident.....

I guess I just have a really hard time believing that scientists who did research at the University of Michigan in the 60's would be as blood thirsty as 'the others' appear to be. Not for the sake of an experiment.

If this is the way the show is going, I hope they have one helluva explanation for all of the violence and death being dealt out by this supposedly humanitarian outfit.

Guess it come down to our individual world views; I tend to believe that evil does exists, but that given a chance, most people do what is right.

So call me a pollyanna....... if I believed that evil was more enduring than good, I'd have to just quit right now and move to someplace really isolated for the rest of my pathetic life.

Originally Posted by Jeepsta

About a lot of things. First of all, why the plane crashed on the island.

I believe Locke didn't realize the implications of his words "the island brought us here"
Think about the fact that the inside of the hatch is an electromagnetic station. Whenever Jack gets close to it, his necklace starts getting more attracted to it. Well what if it pulsates like most electromagnetic stations do. Maybe it sent waves strong enough to attract a 777 jumbojet that was just a little off course crashing into the island. I know that sounds a little farfetched to say that it was powerful enough to pull a plane down but think about it. The island seems to be nothing but a big experiment anyway. Maybe if the button is not pushed every 108 minutes it sends off another huge electromagnetic wave, one big enough to bring a plane down. Remember they have found at least one other plane on the island, the drug smugglers, it might possibly have been brought down by an electromagnetic wave too.

While the button pushing might not have anything to do with an electromagnetic wave, I do believe that at some point or another, the fact that they are doing electromagnetic experiments on the island DID bring the plane down. Locke said it himself, the "island brough them there."

Also Oceanic-Air was founded in 1980, the same time the electromagnetic compound on the island was founded. Remember the orientation video was from 1980. Also it has been shown that the plane has the Dharma Initiative Logo on the fuselage.

If what I have said is true, then all of the survivors may in fact be part of a larger experiment. Think about it, the best way to conduct an experiment is to not allow the test subjects to know they are being tested. I'd say if they were being tested, then they have absolutely no idea!

What does everyone else think about this?

I tried to post this on the Security System on www.oceanicflight815.com but it wont let me register. I've been trying for a couple of days and it wont let me, so If anyone can post this on there that would be great. Thanks!

I really like your theory - it seems to fit a big piece of the ever-growing puzzle that this show is.

[Car Ramrod]

If there was an electromagnetic pulse strong enough to bring down the plane, it would have wiped out the very computer Desmond was punching the numbers into, as well as disrupting the power supply for the hatch. Anything with a circuit board would be rendered inoperable.

I'm with you on the electromagnet theory. What if the island is always pulling in vessels? Flight 815, Rouseau's science boat, the herion plane, Desmonds boat, and lets not forget the Black Rock...and thats just what we know of so far. Even the part of the raft Sawyer and Michael "floated" back to the Island on had a metal (plane fuselage) tip on it. I think the Islands electromagnetic field is constantly pulling in everything around it.(along with making the navigation equipment on these vessels malfunction) It is an uncharted Island, it isn't near any normal shipping lanes of flight paths, so not very many vessels come around it. Those that do are unlucky!

I believe the Dharma Iniative was on the Island way before 1980. The Orientation Film, that was made in 1980, stated that the underground facility use to be a research center before the "incident". It was the "incident" that required the numbers to be typed in every 108 min. Desmond didn't seem to know what would happen if he didn't type in the numbers. He thought he was saving the world. So I would guess that in the 3 years he was there, the numbers always made it in before the time was up. Jack asked him about the 108 min. being a mind game, Desmond responded that he thought of that everyday...but still typed in the numbers.(even though I think there is alot more to Desmonds story than what he has said so far...)

I think there is (or were) many different experiments going on with the Island. I think the experiment(s) have gone VERY wrong.

I also googled Magneto-hydrodynamic(s) and generators and read an article about an implosion could cause a slow vortex-like magnetic pull to the center of the implosion. I'm not a scientist ...but hmmm.

Oh...by the way, this is my first post here...Hello

[skipjack]

Jeepsta, I began to think sort of the same thing when Desmond told the story about his boat running aground.

I believe the Dharma Iniative was on the Island way before 1980. The Orientation Film, that was made in 1980, stated that the underground facility use to be a research center before the "incident".

I don't think so... I get the feeling Dharma is caught up in the island's "curse" with everyone else (remember the slave ship?). I think Dharma chose the island to do research and start their "utopian society". The "incident" was caused by... the island or the fact that Dharma used the cursed numbers.

I think (or maybe I'm hoping) this goes even beyond Dharma and Hanso.

>>>> Also it has been shown that the plane has the Dharma Initiative Logo on the fuselage. <<<<

Screenshot or reference please! In fact, someone must be looking for the Dharma logo all over series 1... any threads or web pages anywhere?

>>>> What if the island is always pulling in vessels? Flight 815, Rouseau's science boat, the herion plane, Desmonds boat, and lets not forget the Black Rock... <<<

The Black Rock was made of wood, wasn't it? My theory on it being so far inland: Tsunami.

Dr. Matt...

[skipjack]

Also it has been shown that the plane has the Dharma Initiative Logo on the fuselage.

I've seen the pictures (I thought it was on this site, but I can't find 'em now), but, there's an octagonal shape on the fuselage. It doesn't look exactly like a Dharma logo.. but it is intriguing.