Old 10-10-2005, 07:12 PM   #1
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I took John Locke's advice and took a second look at the film and snagged one of the frames.





This is one of the frames cut. 12 people in the circle. 12 main characters. An Alvar is a hindu Saint and there are 12 Saints too. I wonder if Alvar Hanso is in the film (as a younger man)? Alvar may just be a title.
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Old 10-11-2005, 08:21 AM   #2
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i dont know if you have heard this before, but i think that the building in the orientation film is from Narvik, Norway.
The picture from the orientation film 1970's




The building in Narvik today

Just notice the statue in the front, and the buildings at the sides.
Can the experiment have anything to do with norway?
 
Old 10-11-2005, 04:41 PM   #3
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Why the heck show a building in Norway? I guess to go along with the name Hanso? Maybe it's norwiegen(sp?). But the degroots (dutch name - I've always said the dutch were behind everything LOL) are in Michigan. I Guess a foreign investor?
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Anybody else watch the orientation video and notice something funny about Dr. Candle's left arm? It's as limp as Locke's legs used to be.



Even when he does the Namaste greeting, he only uses one hand, instead of pressing his two hands together.

 
Old 10-12-2005, 08:53 AM   #5
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I still get a creepy feeling watching the film again and seeing these pics.
 
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Oh yeah. And if you'll remember, the farmer who looked after Kate in Australia was missing an arm as well.
 
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I think the one armed man is homage to the Fugitive (the old TV Series). Directors and writers like to do that as a "tipping of the hat" to a creator that influenced them. The one armed man in the Fugitive killed Dr. Kimble's wife and the "Fugitive" is convicted. Dr. Kimble is saved from prison by a bus wreck (Sound familiar?) on his way to prison. Now he must roam the streets and look for the "real" killer who is a one armed man. The title of the Katie flashback to australia is "Born to Run". But there may be something more to it.

I mean, they have a lot of connections throughout the show. Even if they never draw a connection in the story of Jack and Shannon by way of her dead father (the guy that Jack lets die while he tries to save his future ex-wife - Just speculation) we still can assume the connection even if it's never talked about. Other things may be connected. Maybe the Farmer is gonna be on the island too? Don't know.

Everything in a show is on purpose. Lighting, Sound (notice the monster go from sounding like a T-Rex to sounding mechanical in later episodes. What's that all about?) There is a picture of a desert on the wall while Jack and Locke are watching the "Orientation" movie. They'r e on an island why a desert picture? Don't know, but someone was paid to put that particular picture in the location for the shot. Maybe the set designer thought it would just fill up space and the director agreed.Maybe not?

The Editor can cut through a sceen to make things less obvious to us by using cutaways and such to influence what we can see. The Director choses the shots. Where the camera points. Should it be a handheld, or a stationary?

The Director, Writer, and the Editor picked that shot, they picked that angle and sometimes ya gotta ask, "Hmnnn why'd they show that?". The one arm doesn't fit. So Why'd they put it there?

Any speculation?
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