Saving 'Journeyman' - Can it Hang On? - Page 2

Quill · 10-27-2007, 06:46 PM

I have loved Journeyman from the first episode, and it's only gotten better since. There are a few mildly irritating points - like the inevitable husband/wife arguments that are completely necessary but not altogether fun to watch - but it's still one of the best shows I've seen in a very long time and the only show on television that I look forward to all week long.

I hope NBC isn't in a hurry to cancel it, as I think they'd be doing themselves more harm than good anyway. I've already seen more than a few posts from people in various places who didn't or won't even start watching Journeyman precisely because networks are so gung-ho about cancelling programs like it if they don't make the big bucks right away. I know I almost didn't watch it for that very reason, myself. I, more or less, caught it by accident and got hooked.

I think NBC would be wise to hang in there and let the show go at least a full season; let people who are watching it relax and enjoy it, and let people who want to give it a look get used to the idea that it won't be pulled out from under them right about the time they really start getting into it.

And, as for the Sci-Fi Channel, considering that NBC owns it anyway, I'd love to know why episodes of Journeyman aren't already being repeated on that station. It's not like they don't have more than a few ho-hum programs they could push aside for it - and they've certainly made room there for Bionic Woman repeats.

There are several links to various NBC execs and departments posted on the Journeyman message board on NBC's website. It's never too late to let them know you're a fan.

The Legend of Dylan McCleen was one kick butt episode, too. Definitely the best one, so far. Someone finally sees him disappear! And I loved the ending.

Wow, I get wordy when I'm obsessed...

Guest · 10-31-2007, 09:46 AM

I really wanted to like this show but I think I'm going to give it up now. They haven't kept up the original premise of the show that was presented in the pilot. In that episode, he saved a woman and her child, and the child went on to be a school bus driver that saved a group of children. Since then, we've been given no reason for the necessity of saving the people that he does. There's no epilogue in which he finds out that person went on to do amazing AIDS research, or something to that effect. He now just saves them and that's that. No explanation as to why. I don't understand why that was a plot point in the pilot but has since been dropped. It would at least explain why he's time traveling. As it is now, he's just saving random people without explanation as to their importance to the world.

Robert_DarkFall · 10-31-2007, 10:41 AM

It was written in one of the articles that all the people he saves are going to lead up to some kind of climax at the season finale. Furthermore there were reasons given for everyone I think up until last night.

The guy in the earthquake he had to actually get into the earthquake to wake him up so to speak and get him seeing life as something worth living again. He went on to help people who had been wrongly accused of crimes and help them out of that situation.

I can't recall the others offhand but I'm pretty sure up until last night they served some greater purpose. I think in my own theory that last night's guy is actually tied more to Dan and what is going on with him. I think he hesitated a little too long when Dan asked him about the Professor. I don't believe he really thinks time travel is impossible and is probably involved with it in some way just like the professor seems to be.

Robert_DarkFall · 11-02-2007, 05:51 AM

On a side note - There is a movement that has started on the NBC forums - write into NBC and tell them what you think of the show. I have written to the following: As well as leaving a note on their "comments" form.
Park, Joanne
Senior Press Manager - NBC Entertainment Publicity
Phone: (81

840-4579
Fax: (81

840-4943
Email: joanne.park@nbcuni.com
Division: NBC Entertainment

(Sorry for the double post - but I thought it might be better seen in this thread than the original one I posted it in.)

Quill · 11-05-2007, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Guest

I really wanted to like this show but I think I'm going to give it up now. They haven't kept up the original premise of the show that was presented in the pilot. In that episode, he saved a woman and her child, and the child went on to be a school bus driver that saved a group of children. Since then, we've been given no reason for the necessity of saving the people that he does. There's no epilogue in which he finds out that person went on to do amazing AIDS research, or something to that effect. He now just saves them and that's that. No explanation as to why. I don't understand why that was a plot point in the pilot but has since been dropped. It would at least explain why he's time traveling. As it is now, he's just saving random people without explanation as to their importance to the world.

They explained, for the first three episodes, why various people were saved. After that, I can only imagine they've neglected that information because the various missions and their outcomes will ultimately play into a larger storyline; one that would be ruined by having everything spelled out at the end of each episode. Personally, I prefer waiting to find out why certain people and events were important, rather than having the whole thing handed to me up front. Patience always helps.

Guest · 11-05-2007, 09:59 AM

GREAT SHOW !!!!!
It really should stay on the air. It is not a reality or crime show. We need the variety!

Quill · 11-05-2007, 02:37 PM

Fantastic! Now tell NBC that.

Robert_DarkFall · 11-06-2007, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Quill

Fantastic! Now tell NBC that.

I love the new Avatar Quill

very cool. Where was the old one from - Star Trek?

Hmmm best not hijack the thread - sorry - let me re-rail the convo back into JM - Last night's episode was cool - except I wanted to slap little Zack for showing his uncle the money!

I loved seeing Livia travel and now she saved the rest of the money for Dan!

Quill · 11-06-2007, 06:30 PM

Oh yeah, Double Down was the best episode yet. Of course, ya had to know Zack was gonna end up giving up some secret. I didn't figure Jack would turn his brother over that easily, though. Wow...

I loved the whole fight in the alley. That was just great.

And thankies! You a fellow LoK fan? My other avatar was actually Jack Lemmon from the pie fight scene in The Great Race.

Robert_DarkFall · 11-07-2007, 06:11 AM

Well - his brother wasn't given much choice really when the agent threatened him. But yeah it was disppointing none the less. They won't really find much of anything now that the money is back in the past as long as they keep it hidden well enough that it doesn't get discovered back there some how.

One thing I think some people are misunderstanding is that he only spent 10,000 of the money, not ALL of it. So part of it is either still with Livia or hidden somewhere back in that time.

The way Livia said goodbye was almost like she was done with her "mission" wasn't it? I sensed something more in that goodbye than just "see you later"

Legend of Kane - honestly only heard about it haven't followed it much. But it seems pretty cool - might have to dig into it a little more. Wasn't it a video game at some point?

10-31-2007, 10:41 AM	#13
Robert_DarkFall Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 387	It was written in one of the articles that all the people he saves are going to lead up to some kind of climax at the season finale. Furthermore there were reasons given for everyone I think up until last night. The guy in the earthquake he had to actually get into the earthquake to wake him up so to speak and get him seeing life as something worth living again. He went on to help people who had been wrongly accused of crimes and help them out of that situation. I can't recall the others offhand but I'm pretty sure up until last night they served some greater purpose. I think in my own theory that last night's guy is actually tied more to Dan and what is going on with him. I think he hesitated a little too long when Dan asked him about the Professor. I don't believe he really thinks time travel is impossible and is probably involved with it in some way just like the professor seems to be. __________________ R083R7 D4RKF4LL - CIO - Save The Rat Club! My SideK!ck IS my SuperHero!... It's a SideK!ck thing, you wouldn't understand. http://www.newworldsrd.blogspot.com

11-02-2007, 05:51 AM	#14
Robert_DarkFall Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 387	On a side note - There is a movement that has started on the NBC forums - write into NBC and tell them what you think of the show. I have written to the following: As well as leaving a note on their "comments" form. Park, Joanne Senior Press Manager - NBC Entertainment Publicity Phone: (81 840-4579 Fax: (81 840-4943 Email: joanne.park@nbcuni.com Division: NBC Entertainment (Sorry for the double post - but I thought it might be better seen in this thread than the original one I posted it in.) __________________ R083R7 D4RKF4LL - CIO - Save The Rat Club! My SideK!ck IS my SuperHero!... It's a SideK!ck thing, you wouldn't understand. http://www.newworldsrd.blogspot.com

11-07-2007, 06:11 AM	#20
Robert_DarkFall Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 387	Well - his brother wasn't given much choice really when the agent threatened him. But yeah it was disppointing none the less. They won't really find much of anything now that the money is back in the past as long as they keep it hidden well enough that it doesn't get discovered back there some how. One thing I think some people are misunderstanding is that he only spent 10,000 of the money, not ALL of it. So part of it is either still with Livia or hidden somewhere back in that time. The way Livia said goodbye was almost like she was done with her "mission" wasn't it? I sensed something more in that goodbye than just "see you later" Legend of Kane - honestly only heard about it haven't followed it much. But it seems pretty cool - might have to dig into it a little more. Wasn't it a video game at some point? __________________ R083R7 D4RKF4LL - CIO - Save The Rat Club! My SideK!ck IS my SuperHero!... It's a SideK!ck thing, you wouldn't understand. http://www.newworldsrd.blogspot.com

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10-27-2007, 06:46 PM	#11
Quill Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 37	I have loved Journeyman from the first episode, and it's only gotten better since. There are a few mildly irritating points - like the inevitable husband/wife arguments that are completely necessary but not altogether fun to watch - but it's still one of the best shows I've seen in a very long time and the *only* show on television that I look forward to all week long. I hope NBC isn't in a hurry to cancel it, as I think they'd be doing themselves more harm than good anyway. I've already seen more than a few posts from people in various places who didn't or won't even start watching Journeyman precisely because networks are so gung-ho about cancelling programs like it if they don't make the big bucks right away. I know I almost didn't watch it for that very reason, myself. I, more or less, caught it by accident and got hooked. I think NBC would be wise to hang in there and let the show go at least a full season; let people who are watching it relax and enjoy it, and let people who want to give it a look get used to the idea that it won't be pulled out from under them right about the time they really start getting into it. And, as for the Sci-Fi Channel, considering that NBC owns it anyway, I'd love to know why episodes of Journeyman aren't already being repeated on that station. It's not like they don't have more than a few ho-hum programs they could push aside for it - and they've certainly made room there for Bionic Woman repeats. There are several links to various NBC execs and departments posted on the Journeyman message board on NBC's website. It's never too late to let them know you're a fan. The Legend of Dylan McCleen was one kick butt episode, too. Definitely the best one, so far. Someone finally sees him disappear! And I loved the ending. Wow, I get wordy when I'm obsessed...

10-31-2007, 09:46 AM	#12
Guest Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 0	I really wanted to like this show but I think I'm going to give it up now. They haven't kept up the original premise of the show that was presented in the pilot. In that episode, he saved a woman and her child, and the child went on to be a school bus driver that saved a group of children. Since then, we've been given no reason for the necessity of saving the people that he does. There's no epilogue in which he finds out that person went on to do amazing AIDS research, or something to that effect. He now just saves them and that's that. No explanation as to why. I don't understand why that was a plot point in the pilot but has since been dropped. It would at least explain why he's time traveling. As it is now, he's just saving random people without explanation as to their importance to the world.

11-05-2007, 09:59 AM	#16
Guest Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 0	GREAT SHOW !!!!! It really should stay on the air. It is not a reality or crime show. We need the variety!

11-05-2007, 02:37 PM	#17
Quill Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 37	Fantastic! Now tell NBC that.

11-06-2007, 06:30 PM	#19
Quill Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 37	Oh yeah, Double Down was the best episode yet. Of course, ya had to know Zack was gonna end up giving up some secret. I didn't figure Jack would turn his brother over that easily, though. Wow... I loved the whole fight in the alley. That was just great. And thankies! You a fellow LoK fan? My other avatar was actually Jack Lemmon from the pie fight scene in The Great Race.