Peter patrellis ability - Page 3

pontypool · 02-04-2009, 05:57 PM

the fact he reached out to touch mohinder proves that he was aware that he needed to do that to absorb his strength. Actually now that I think about it, if Peters ability can only hold one power at a time, it explains why Peter from the future had a scar... because he never got heal back again after regaining his ability from the injection..Also do we ever see future Peter use more than one ability? Not that I can remember... don't forget clare killed him in the future, did he stop the bullet? No. . that could be because he had a different ability at that time and not healing/telekenesis.
In fact when Future Peter travelled back in time to assasinate his brother and stop him telling the world about people with abilities, we also see him run off and then use illusion to make himself look like peter of the past. Note how he didn't go invisbile, he didn't walk through walles, he used illusion and only illusion. The logical explanation is that he travelled back in time, aquired illusion several days before Nathans speech in preparation to assasinate him And then also used illusion to reaquire time travel from hiro of the past to get back to his own time. We never actually see future Peter use 2 abilities at the same time, there was always a gap between him using one ability in one scene and another in the next episode where he could have easily aquired the ability elsewhere.

Tuckdick · 02-04-2009, 11:17 PM

Well first of all... When Peter almost falls out of the plane, he grabs mohinder, and you dont see him get the power back. So I dont think its a one at a time thing. I mean i guess it could be, but honestly I think he just has to train it / was weak from tranqs or something. Its kinda confusing and im sure they ll explain monday. Peter does reach for Mohinder like he knows he has to grab him, so that is a little strange.

Second, to pontypool, Future peter used multiple powers alot. He put peter in a villians body, sent Parkman to africa, froze time, then took peter back out of the body, then teleported. So im assuming he had all of those powers.

CosmicMuffin · 02-05-2009, 02:11 AM

Well,it's my personal beleif is that Peter is experiencing a weaker form of Empathic Mimicry, due to his body having to go through forcibly losing and then regaining the ability in so little time. There are people who after receiving enough damage to there bodies need to re-learn walking. I'd imagined that regaining something like a power might be more difficult a second time around, all things considered. Don't forget, one way or another Peter needed to be near his benefactors everytime he used there abilties when he first got them, His ordeal probably left him weaker and overtime will nolonger need direct contact. Oh, and one more point, he also had trouble mixing powers at first. He started one at a time.

pontypool · 02-05-2009, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdick

Well first of all... When Peter almost falls out of the plane, he grabs mohinder, and you dont see him get the power back. So I dont think its a one at a time thing. I mean i guess it could be, but honestly I think he just has to train it / was weak from tranqs or something. Its kinda confusing and im sure they ll explain monday. Peter does reach for Mohinder like he knows he has to grab him, so that is a little strange.

Second, to pontypool, Future peter used multiple powers alot. He put peter in a villians body, sent Parkman to africa, froze time, then took peter back out of the body, then teleported. So im assuming he had all of those powers.

but he didnt use them at the same time.. there was a significant time period from using one power and then using the next, you dont actually see him use one power and then another in the same scene. he could have easily required them from somewhere else. The only thing that's confusing me is that he didn't appear to re absorb mohinders strength when he touched his hand the second time, yeah that does suggest he already had it.. even so it does look like he has to make physical contact now. I guess we will not know more until the next episode, i can't wait lol.

pontypool · 02-05-2009, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by CosmicMuffin

Well,it's my personal beleif is that Peter is experiencing a weaker form of Empathic Mimicry, due to his body having to go through forcibly losing and then regaining the ability in so little time. There are people who after receiving enough damage to there bodies need to re-learn walking. I'd imagined that regaining something like a power might be more difficult a second time around, all things considered. Don't forget, one way or another Peter needed to be near his benefactors everytime he used there abilties when he first got them, His ordeal probably left him weaker and overtime will nolonger need direct contact. Oh, and one more point, he also had trouble mixing powers at first. He started one at a time.

No actually I think you will find he didn't absorb one at a time, he absorbed everything he came into contact with. When the invisible man taught him how to control them, telekenesis suddenly emerged out of nowhere when the invisible man tried to hit him in the head with a stick and that was from way back from his contact with slyar in the last episode of season 1 where he stopped him from killing claire. At that point in heroes peter was only able to use an ability while in close proximitey to another hero. Peter realised this wasn't because he needed to be close it was just because he had to think about how he felt while he was around them... but yeah he did actually absorb everyones power immediately and saved them aswell.

CosmicMuffin · 02-05-2009, 04:02 AM

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No actually I think you will find he didn't absorb one at a time, he absorbed everything he came into contact with. When the invisible man taught him how to control them, telekenesis suddenly emerged out of nowhere when the invisible man tried to hit him in the head with a stick and that was from way back from his contact with slyar in the last episode of season 1 where he stopped him from killing claire. At that point in heroes peter was only able to use an ability while in close proximitey to another hero. Peter realised this wasn't because he needed to be close it was just because he had to think about how he felt while he was around them... but yeah he did actually absorb everyones power immediately and saved them aswell.

I'm sorry. I guess I was easy to misunderstand. What I meant is that Peter is probably starting over having to re-learn something that although difficult to learn at first was part of him naturally, and that his body is simply having trouble catching up to where it was previously. Rehabilitation if you will.

pontypool · 02-05-2009, 06:30 AM

Yes that is a possibility, my mates think that too, but judging from future peters inability to heal that suggests he never gets the ability to absorb from proximitey ever again, because he certainly comes into contact with claire several times in the future as she tried to kill him. Like the episode where he stopped time and took her gun off her and later still when he was there with future hiro.
Did you notice how when he injected himself with the catalist he immediately flew, he didnt need to learn it, but he did it straight away? dont forget that learning to fly originally took him many episodes to master and even then he could only do it when close to nathan.. But he flew immediately after taking the drug. So if he even got healing ability once, the scar shouldn't be present. I think the writers purposely give him a scar and now they are giving us all these clues in episode 14 for us to piece together and realise he only has a one at a time ability and he actually needs to touch their hand to absorb their ability. I doubt they would have dropped so many clues if that wasn't the case. But we won't know for sure until we see at least one more episode.

Tuckdick · 02-05-2009, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by pontypool

but he didnt use them at the same time.. there was a significant time period from using one power and then using the next, you dont actually see him use one power and then another in the same scene. he could have easily required them from somewhere else. The only thing that's confusing me is that he didn't appear to re absorb mohinders strength when he touched his hand the second time, yeah that does suggest he already had it.. even so it does look like he has to make physical contact now. I guess we will not know more until the next episode, i can't wait lol.

The bank scene. Peter (present) Is stuck in the sonic boom guy. Hes helping out HRG. Time stops. Peter(future) appears. Time is still frozen. He pulls Peter out of the sonic boom guy (has to be a different power.) They chat. Peter(future) takes them back to the future (ITS YOUR KIDS MARTY)

pontypool · 02-05-2009, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdick

The bank scene. Peter (present) Is stuck in the sonic boom guy. Hes helping out HRG. Time stops. Peter(future) appears. Time is still frozen. He pulls Peter out of the sonic boom guy (has to be a different power.) They chat. Peter(future) takes them back to the future (ITS YOUR KIDS MARTY)

I stand corrected, thanks for pointing that out.

K for Kev · 02-05-2009, 01:26 PM

yea so i reakon the second part of the cliffhanger will be, that he'll actually absorb mohinders power again and let go

because its strength, you get me? and dont you dare say that wont save him, when the hatians brother collided with a car at God knows what speed and Mohinder survived Pinehearst exploding.

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02-04-2009, 05:57 PM	#21
pontypool Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 31	the fact he reached out to touch mohinder proves that he was aware that he needed to do that to absorb his strength. Actually now that I think about it, if Peters ability can only hold one power at a time, it explains why Peter from the future had a scar... because he never got heal back again after regaining his ability from the injection..Also do we ever see future Peter use more than one ability? Not that I can remember... don't forget clare killed him in the future, did he stop the bullet? No. . that could be because he had a different ability at that time and not healing/telekenesis. In fact when Future Peter travelled back in time to assasinate his brother and stop him telling the world about people with abilities, we also see him run off and then use illusion to make himself look like peter of the past. Note how he didn't go invisbile, he didn't walk through walles, he used illusion and only illusion. The logical explanation is that he travelled back in time, aquired illusion several days before Nathans speech in preparation to assasinate him And then also used illusion to reaquire time travel from hiro of the past to get back to his own time. We never actually see future Peter use 2 abilities at the same time, there was always a gap between him using one ability in one scene and another in the next episode where he could have easily aquired the ability elsewhere.

02-04-2009, 11:17 PM	#22
Tuckdick Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 83	Well first of all... When Peter almost falls out of the plane, he grabs mohinder, and you dont see him get the power back. So I dont think its a one at a time thing. I mean i guess it could be, but honestly I think he just has to train it / was weak from tranqs or something. Its kinda confusing and im sure they ll explain monday. Peter does reach for Mohinder like he knows he has to grab him, so that is a little strange. Second, to pontypool, Future peter used multiple powers alot. He put peter in a villians body, sent Parkman to africa, froze time, then took peter back out of the body, then teleported. So im assuming he had all of those powers.

02-05-2009, 02:11 AM	#23
CosmicMuffin Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 9	Well,it's my personal beleif is that Peter is experiencing a weaker form of Empathic Mimicry, due to his body having to go through forcibly losing and then regaining the ability in so little time. There are people who after receiving enough damage to there bodies need to re-learn walking. I'd imagined that regaining something like a power might be more difficult a second time around, all things considered. Don't forget, one way or another Peter needed to be near his benefactors everytime he used there abilties when he first got them, His ordeal probably left him weaker and overtime will nolonger need direct contact. Oh, and one more point, he also had trouble mixing powers at first. He started one at a time.

02-05-2009, 06:30 AM	#27
pontypool Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 31	Yes that is a possibility, my mates think that too, but judging from future peters inability to heal that suggests he never gets the ability to absorb from proximitey ever again, because he certainly comes into contact with claire several times in the future as she tried to kill him. Like the episode where he stopped time and took her gun off her and later still when he was there with future hiro. Did you notice how when he injected himself with the catalist he immediately flew, he didnt need to learn it, but he did it straight away? dont forget that learning to fly originally took him many episodes to master and even then he could only do it when close to nathan.. But he flew immediately after taking the drug. So if he even got healing ability once, the scar shouldn't be present. I think the writers purposely give him a scar and now they are giving us all these clues in episode 14 for us to piece together and realise he only has a one at a time ability and he actually needs to touch their hand to absorb their ability. I doubt they would have dropped so many clues if that wasn't the case. But we won't know for sure until we see at least one more episode.