2.9 Discussion

jfteran · 11-19-2007, 07:03 PM

Not my most fav. ep... idk i'm just confused now... i mean we learned a lot of stuff but i have no idea who's good and who's evil!!??

redthorn · 11-19-2007, 10:01 PM

I loved this episode so many questions answered and so many more new questions that have come up. This is why i love this show, I can't wait till the next episode of heroes so I can find out more.

Too bad producers havn't given the writer's guild their fair share, i think this could lead to a very good season if the writer's guild end their strike soon and continue the season normally after december...
we'll find out soon...

PetersGirl0o · 11-19-2007, 10:20 PM

Well it's kinda lame that Claire's dad is still alive, I mean they should of left it as is. Also Its easy to know who is evil and who is good, I knew all along that Adam was evil even if he is helping Peter (I believe he is just pretending to help Peter). Another thought I have is WHY in the hell did he not shoot Elle in the head, augh I am so Annoyed with her all ready. This episode was good, it gave us answer's and stuff but next episode looks amazing, we might even get some action that I have been waiting for. The action that we didn't get in the first season, I wonder who will fight who and who will kill who. Cant wait!.

redthorn · 11-19-2007, 11:00 PM

I don't think it's that easy to see who's evil and who is good. I think more surprises lie ahead. Is Adam really evil? Or is he just trying to take matters into his own hands? By that I mean that he may be trying to undo the the bad deeds that the company commited in the past. He doesn't know or may not care that the people previously involved in the company have changed. Then again he might really be evil, but what is his agenda? Who spreads the virus is it the company or is it Adam? And if he is good can his relationship with Hiro be salvaged? Will future Hiro make another appearance?

And what happens to Sylar? He referred to himself as Gabriel Gray this season, will he change his ways or will he remain the same?

Suresh already killed Bennet (even though he is brought back). I would have never expected this if it wasn't for the paintings.

Will Parkman turn more like his dad... I doubt it.
The biggest mystery to me is peicing out who the real culprit is, Adam or the company, any thoughts?

PetersGirl0o · 11-20-2007, 12:59 AM

Well I can say that Sylar is still evil 100% i mean look how he talk to ajlandro (maya's brother) that episode about killing him and her I think he wont change, also I think Adam will be evil because he is corrupted by revenge and jealousy for Hiro. Just my thoughts

Kevlar845 · 11-20-2007, 05:47 AM

This episode rocked my world! Clair actually had a spine as well as interesting things to say. And Bennet's death was done so well. I think it was Mohinder that brought him back or possibly Adam. My one question is what the hell happened to all the people in the picture? They're all dead? What about Monica's Grandmother, wasn't she in the picture? I think Victoria Pratt is going to be in next season as its already a little crowded to add a new character in the last 2 eps. All in all great episode and I'm happy to see the show back up to par.

heroes_rockz · 11-20-2007, 06:13 AM

Bob i think brought him back, he needs claires Dad alive so that he can get claire back.

The blood he took will run out and he wants a constant supply, so he knows having the dad for ransom will play claire back into his arms or else she would take off with boyfriend and family and have no part left in the series

Entropical · 11-20-2007, 09:45 AM

I realy liked this episode, best one of this season imo.

Being able to revive anyone kind of puts the show in a bad position. If someone would die, the fans of that character would say that he/she easily could have been revived just like HRG. And if more characters are revived the show will probably loose alot of suspense becouse no one can be defeated. Since all characters are somehow connected everyonoe would have a chance of getting revived. But i'm glad they saved HRG after all, great character.

seroes · 11-20-2007, 09:57 AM

As for the discussion of is Adam evil or is the company evil, what it probably is that both are evil. Adam is definetly out for revenge. He probably didnt kill Kaito because of Hiro, he probably killed him for his part in locking him up for 30 years. Whs en you listen to what Kaito says he and the other members of the photo of 12 did some pretty terrible things. Adam is just paying him back for that.

meimei42 · 11-20-2007, 10:15 AM

Dude, I almost had a fit when I thought they'd killed HRG. I'm serious.

And I have a question about how he was brought back to life. He was dead. Had to be dead for at least a few minutes until they could get him back to a facilite. So we're talking dead-dead. Claire's blood didn't just cure him, it brought him back to life. How long can a person be dead for and still have Claire's blood bring them back to life? Do you think Heroes will test this further, or is a few minutes dead as far as they will go?

Everyone's motives in my mind are starting to get a little fuzzy. Yeah, Adam killed Hiro's dad, but they also kept him locked up for thirty years and we're still not sure exactly how *bad* the company is. Someone said before, maybe Adam isn't aware of how some of the 12 have tried to redeam themselves, he only knows about the evil they have done in the past. So calling him evil might not be exactly true. Misguided perhaps, or venegful, but we'll have to wait and see if he's evil.

Matt is going down a dark and dangerous path as is Mohinder. It will be interesting to see how it all works out.

I still hate West, I wish he was evil.

Claire is still stupid, I'm sorry, she's a moron. Crying about their dad being a bad guy. They KNEW he was doing bad things for the company in the PAST. What happened to him letting himself get shot of the bridge to save her and everything else that happened at the end of last season to bond them together. That girl has issue and it's starting to bug me really bad. (Sorry Claire lovers, I really liked her season 1)

Elle is just cool. There are layers to this character I can't wait to see. I hope she turns on her dad, somehow remembers what they did to her.

And I saw Matt had a name next to the woman in the photo, I haven't read every response to find out if someone knows something more about the woman, but certainly they have my attention.

Do you guys this Elle's dad is her real dad or an adoptive parent like HRG was?

11-19-2007, 07:03 PM	#1
jfteran Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 5	2.9 Discussion Not my most fav. ep... idk i'm just confused now... i mean we learned a lot of stuff but i have no idea who's good and who's evil!!??

11-20-2007, 10:15 AM	#10
meimei42 Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 11,816	Dude, I almost had a fit when I thought they'd killed HRG. I'm serious. And I have a question about how he was brought back to life. He was dead. Had to be dead for at least a few minutes until they could get him back to a facilite. So we're talking dead-dead. Claire's blood didn't just cure him, it brought him back to life. How long can a person be dead for and still have Claire's blood bring them back to life? Do you think Heroes will test this further, or is a few minutes dead as far as they will go? Everyone's motives in my mind are starting to get a little fuzzy. Yeah, Adam killed Hiro's dad, but they also kept him locked up for thirty years and we're still not sure exactly how bad the company is. Someone said before, maybe Adam isn't aware of how some of the 12 have tried to redeam themselves, he only knows about the evil they have done in the past. So calling him evil might not be exactly true. Misguided perhaps, or venegful, but we'll have to wait and see if he's evil. Matt is going down a dark and dangerous path as is Mohinder. It will be interesting to see how it all works out. I still hate West, I wish he was evil. Claire is still stupid, I'm sorry, she's a moron. Crying about their dad being a bad guy. They KNEW he was doing bad things for the company in the PAST. What happened to him letting himself get shot of the bridge to save her and everything else that happened at the end of last season to bond them together. That girl has issue and it's starting to bug me really bad. (Sorry Claire lovers, I really liked her season 1) Elle is just cool. There are layers to this character I can't wait to see. I hope she turns on her dad, somehow remembers what they did to her. And I saw Matt had a name next to the woman in the photo, I haven't read every response to find out if someone knows something more about the woman, but certainly they have my attention. Do you guys this Elle's dad is her real dad or an adoptive parent like HRG was? __________________ AV by ewlyn on Livejournal

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11-19-2007, 10:01 PM	#2
redthorn Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 14	I loved this episode so many questions answered and so many more new questions that have come up. This is why i love this show, I can't wait till the next episode of heroes so I can find out more. Too bad producers havn't given the writer's guild their fair share, i think this could lead to a very good season if the writer's guild end their strike soon and continue the season normally after december... we'll find out soon...

11-19-2007, 10:20 PM	#3
PetersGirl0o Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: I live in Canada, Alberta, Edmonton Posts: 25	Well it's kinda lame that Claire's dad is still alive, I mean they should of left it as is. Also Its easy to know who is evil and who is good, I knew all along that Adam was evil even if he is helping Peter (I believe he is just pretending to help Peter). Another thought I have is WHY in the hell did he not shoot Elle in the head, augh I am so Annoyed with her all ready. This episode was good, it gave us answer's and stuff but next episode looks amazing, we might even get some action that I have been waiting for. The action that we didn't get in the first season, I wonder who will fight who and who will kill who. Cant wait!.

11-19-2007, 11:00 PM	#4
redthorn Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 14	I don't think it's that easy to see who's evil and who is good. I think more surprises lie ahead. Is Adam really evil? Or is he just trying to take matters into his own hands? By that I mean that he may be trying to undo the the bad deeds that the company commited in the past. He doesn't know or may not care that the people previously involved in the company have changed. Then again he might really be evil, but what is his agenda? Who spreads the virus is it the company or is it Adam? And if he is good can his relationship with Hiro be salvaged? Will future Hiro make another appearance? And what happens to Sylar? He referred to himself as Gabriel Gray this season, will he change his ways or will he remain the same? Suresh already killed Bennet (even though he is brought back). I would have never expected this if it wasn't for the paintings. Will Parkman turn more like his dad... I doubt it. The biggest mystery to me is peicing out who the real culprit is, Adam or the company, any thoughts?

11-20-2007, 12:59 AM	#5
PetersGirl0o Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: I live in Canada, Alberta, Edmonton Posts: 25	Well I can say that Sylar is still evil 100% i mean look how he talk to ajlandro (maya's brother) that episode about killing him and her I think he wont change, also I think Adam will be evil because he is corrupted by revenge and jealousy for Hiro. Just my thoughts

11-20-2007, 05:47 AM	#6
Kevlar845 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 21	This episode rocked my world! Clair actually had a spine as well as interesting things to say. And Bennet's death was done so well. I think it was Mohinder that brought him back or possibly Adam. My one question is what the hell happened to all the people in the picture? They're all dead? What about Monica's Grandmother, wasn't she in the picture? I think Victoria Pratt is going to be in next season as its already a little crowded to add a new character in the last 2 eps. All in all great episode and I'm happy to see the show back up to par.

11-20-2007, 06:13 AM	#7
heroes_rockz Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2	Bob i think brought him back, he needs claires Dad alive so that he can get claire back. The blood he took will run out and he wants a constant supply, so he knows having the dad for ransom will play claire back into his arms or else she would take off with boyfriend and family and have no part left in the series

11-20-2007, 09:45 AM	#8
Entropical Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 26	I realy liked this episode, best one of this season imo. Being able to revive anyone kind of puts the show in a bad position. If someone would die, the fans of that character would say that he/she easily could have been revived just like HRG. And if more characters are revived the show will probably loose alot of suspense becouse no one can be defeated. Since all characters are somehow connected everyonoe would have a chance of getting revived. But i'm glad they saved HRG after all, great character.

11-20-2007, 09:57 AM	#9
seroes Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 13	As for the discussion of is Adam evil or is the company evil, what it probably is that both are evil. Adam is definetly out for revenge. He probably didnt kill Kaito because of Hiro, he probably killed him for his part in locking him up for 30 years. Whs en you listen to what Kaito says he and the other members of the photo of 12 did some pretty terrible things. Adam is just paying him back for that.