2.7 Discussion - Page 2

korosu555 · 11-06-2007, 05:29 AM

Adam is the groundsetter (or whatever u call it) of that symbol. And afaik the symbol isnt the symbol of the company. I mean.. adam made the note: the company cant be trusted. so he just uses his symbols to kill those ppl.
And i think he can only regenerate.

benzi2k7 · 11-06-2007, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Entropical

How could Matt after 5 minutes be stronger than his father who has been in full control of his abilities for decades? That was realy lame. Other than that i liked it alot. Hiro finally left ancient Japan. West finding out about Noah, peter getting part of his memory back and Claire is back in business again with an important unwitting task. It's all good. Let's just hope they don't have to end at episode 11.

It's probably the same with Kensei as with Matt, he's powers didn't fully evovle at once, he's immortality kicked in at his middle age. I wonder if the same thing will happen with Claire.

Could it be that Angela's power is somekind of memory control? It did seem as if she somehow gave Peter his memory back. She did something in an earlier episode too that was a hint to memory control, can't remember what that was at the moment but i have been pretty sure about her power for some time now.

It felt a bit like they rushed the episode though, 4 out of 8 paintings came true? Niki knocking on the door, the syringe, Hiro batteling Kensei and Peter watching the dead bodies in the future.

He let out his anger and muary could never have so much focused energy.

forcefed · 11-06-2007, 08:20 AM

has anyone considered that if matt has the same ability as maury, that maybe clair isn't really petrelli's daughter? but actually adam/kensei's??

FF

yclau · 11-06-2007, 08:59 AM

i reckon both adam and hiro is kensei,,since it is hiro that told adam wat to do..without hiro adam wouldnt of done anything......also Yaeko said that she tell the history to other as how hiro told her....so therefore both hiro and adam is kensei....the thing that i didnt get is y would bob call adam the "visionary" and then bob talks about the newspaper about the snow that actually is a tsunami in miami...so therefore i think adam has more than one power...

i think the producers is rushin things too quickly...there is too much happenin in one ep.....i hope they can extend the series further..so it is not all cram into a few eps...

s3verian · 11-06-2007, 09:17 AM

Realistically, Adam would have taken revenge on his "Princess" soon after Hiro left. Especially if she started going around calling Hiro Kensei.

Also, Angela was only able to give Peter the memories that she had of him (and she probably left out a few

). That's why he doesn't remember squat about Adam.

I liked the whole Return of the Jedi "there is still good in him" thing they had going on, but honestly, could Kensei get any more 2 dimensional? I mean, fine, your best friend gets your girl, and no doubt that sucks, but after a few hundred years, you'd think he'd have other concerns. Kensei should have gotten over himself, and tossed White/Black-beard down a made-in-Japan, Death Star mine shaft.

For that matter, I preferred Sylar when he showed remorse/hesitancy like when he wrote "I HAVE SINNNNED" on his apartment walls, or when he called Mojinder to rhetorically ask why he'd nuke NY for no gain. Self awareness always makes for more interesting bad guys.

leungpat · 11-06-2007, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by yclau

.... bob call adam the "visionary" and then bob talks about the newspaper about the snow that actually is a tsunami in miami...so therefore i think adam has more than one power...

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YEs, i agree too . Adam has more than one power, his fundamental one is regeneration , then he gets more than that later in these hundreds of years, like illusion

IllusionsOfMe · 11-06-2007, 01:12 PM

This episode was so good and so much happened. I will have to give it another watch before i fully comment. I was glad there was no twins, and that West found out about Noah, maybe now he will scram. I know that's not realistic but a girl can dream. He's bad news i just know it. I hope Peter can get back to 2008 and save what's her face. I would hate for her to be stranded there.

Hiro left his princess

..aww... that was so sad. Seems every time he finds a girl somehow she gets taken away from him. Life of a hero i guess.

Ya, for Kensei being Adam..It was nice to see him in modern clothes..LOL. Looks like he might be a bad guy which is fine by me. I wanted him to be ,because he does bad so well.

zeebox · 11-06-2007, 01:18 PM

Kensei\Adam obviously has regenerative power and I also agree that his power has matured to include immortality. I am wondering though, since Bob has called Adam a visionary and made it sound like the company was founded with good intentions, is Adam really going to still have his grudge against Hiro. I dont think he will. I think his new agenda is one of power corruption and his motives for destroying the original company members has nothing to do with Hiro.. that being said, it will be interesting to see his reaction to meeting Hiro again. Also, some people are saying Adam gained more powers - I totally disagree - Bob mentions the Miami snow deal while talking about the good deeds of the company - obviously someone else in their group of good-doers had the turn water to snow power, Adam wasn't the only member of the company.

Regarding Mohinder, He was the guy in the painting shooting Bennet. Sounds like some people didn't make that connection..thats why Bennet asks him if the company issued him a gun yet.

Parkman was able to trap his father because he was able to channel his love for Molly and use it to overpower Maury. He says to his father that he never had the same love for his own children.

Off topic - What ever happened to the painting of Hiro battling a dinosaur, when is this going to happen??

kensei · 11-06-2007, 01:23 PM

Very interesting episode much like a penultimate one. I agree they needed a big episode lately as the last few were starting to slow down. My Question is have they revealed to much in this one episode? Every question has been resolved except for how kensei got to modern times. What are they going to show for the next 16 or so episodes.

I know i asked the question about kensei's power before but i don't believe he has lived through all the centuries to present. My opinion is he remembered everything hiro told him about modern times and set about finding someone with the same power as hiro to take him there. Come on now if he did live through the times how can you keep a grudge for three to four hundred years.

addiction · 11-06-2007, 02:11 PM

oooh this episode was sooooo gooood! I think i freaked out some of my classmates with my reactions while watching this episode of heroes (was watching it in school).

Ai... Hiro is so cute! I'm glad that he is back to the future and I'm glad he left Yaeko, cause he shouldn't have fallen in love with her in the first place (although its extremely cute)

Also, I can't believe that Adam/kensei is still alive, well, i did think that it would happen, but knowing that it actually is true is a bit insane. Its obvious that he didn't die in that tent, since he is like claire.

I really hope that Mohinder WILL NOT kill anybody, or that he at least won't be killing Noah. None of the paintings happened at the same time, so it would make no sense if he was killing Noah in that painting.

oooooh i really loved this episode! oh my F***ING god it was good! i didn't even notice that Sylar wasn't in it while i was watching it

11-06-2007, 01:12 PM	#17
IllusionsOfMe Moderator Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 13,170	This episode was so good and so much happened. I will have to give it another watch before i fully comment. I was glad there was no twins, and that West found out about Noah, maybe now he will scram. I know that's not realistic but a girl can dream. He's bad news i just know it. I hope Peter can get back to 2008 and save what's her face. I would hate for her to be stranded there. Hiro left his princess ..aww... that was so sad. Seems every time he finds a girl somehow she gets taken away from him. Life of a hero i guess. Ya, for Kensei being Adam..It was nice to see him in modern clothes..LOL. Looks like he might be a bad guy which is fine by me. I wanted him to be ,because he does bad so well. __________________ http://www.fringeforum.com/

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11-06-2007, 05:29 AM	#11
korosu555 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 6	Adam is the groundsetter (or whatever u call it) of that symbol. And afaik the symbol isnt the symbol of the company. I mean.. adam made the note: the company cant be trusted. so he just uses his symbols to kill those ppl. And i think he can only regenerate.

11-06-2007, 08:20 AM	#13
forcefed Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 3	has anyone considered that if matt has the same ability as maury, that maybe clair isn't really petrelli's daughter? but actually adam/kensei's?? FF

11-06-2007, 08:59 AM	#14
yclau Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 3	i reckon both adam and hiro is kensei,,since it is hiro that told adam wat to do..without hiro adam wouldnt of done anything......also Yaeko said that she tell the history to other as how hiro told her....so therefore both hiro and adam is kensei....the thing that i didnt get is y would bob call adam the "visionary" and then bob talks about the newspaper about the snow that actually is a tsunami in miami...so therefore i think adam has more than one power... i think the producers is rushin things too quickly...there is too much happenin in one ep.....i hope they can extend the series further..so it is not all cram into a few eps...

11-06-2007, 09:17 AM	#15
s3verian Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 9	Realistically, Adam would have taken revenge on his "Princess" soon after Hiro left. Especially if she started going around calling Hiro Kensei. Also, Angela was only able to give Peter the memories that she had of him (and she probably left out a few ). That's why he doesn't remember squat about Adam. I liked the whole Return of the Jedi "there is still good in him" thing they had going on, but honestly, could Kensei get any more 2 dimensional? I mean, fine, your best friend gets your girl, and no doubt that sucks, but after a few hundred years, you'd think he'd have other concerns. Kensei should have gotten over himself, and tossed White/Black-beard down a made-in-Japan, Death Star mine shaft. For that matter, I preferred Sylar when he showed remorse/hesitancy like when he wrote "I HAVE SINNNNED" on his apartment walls, or when he called Mojinder to rhetorically ask why he'd nuke NY for no gain. Self awareness always makes for more interesting bad guys.

11-06-2007, 01:18 PM	#18
zeebox Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2	Kensei\Adam obviously has regenerative power and I also agree that his power has matured to include immortality. I am wondering though, since Bob has called Adam a visionary and made it sound like the company was founded with good intentions, is Adam really going to still have his grudge against Hiro. I dont think he will. I think his new agenda is one of power corruption and his motives for destroying the original company members has nothing to do with Hiro.. that being said, it will be interesting to see his reaction to meeting Hiro again. Also, some people are saying Adam gained more powers - I totally disagree - Bob mentions the Miami snow deal while talking about the good deeds of the company - obviously someone else in their group of good-doers had the turn water to snow power, Adam wasn't the only member of the company. Regarding Mohinder, He was the guy in the painting shooting Bennet. Sounds like some people didn't make that connection..thats why Bennet asks him if the company issued him a gun yet. Parkman was able to trap his father because he was able to channel his love for Molly and use it to overpower Maury. He says to his father that he never had the same love for his own children. Off topic - What ever happened to the painting of Hiro battling a dinosaur, when is this going to happen??

11-06-2007, 01:23 PM	#19
kensei Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 17	Very interesting episode much like a penultimate one. I agree they needed a big episode lately as the last few were starting to slow down. My Question is have they revealed to much in this one episode? Every question has been resolved except for how kensei got to modern times. What are they going to show for the next 16 or so episodes. I know i asked the question about kensei's power before but i don't believe he has lived through all the centuries to present. My opinion is he remembered everything hiro told him about modern times and set about finding someone with the same power as hiro to take him there. Come on now if he did live through the times how can you keep a grudge for three to four hundred years.

11-06-2007, 02:11 PM	#20
addiction Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 20	oooh this episode was sooooo gooood! I think i freaked out some of my classmates with my reactions while watching this episode of heroes (was watching it in school). Ai... Hiro is so cute! I'm glad that he is back to the future and I'm glad he left Yaeko, cause he shouldn't have fallen in love with her in the first place (although its extremely cute) Also, I can't believe that Adam/kensei is still alive, well, i did think that it would happen, but knowing that it actually is true is a bit insane. Its obvious that he didn't die in that tent, since he is like claire. I really hope that Mohinder WILL NOT kill anybody, or that he at least won't be killing Noah. None of the paintings happened at the same time, so it would make no sense if he was killing Noah in that painting. oooooh i really loved this episode! oh my F***ING god it was good! i didn't even notice that Sylar wasn't in it while i was watching it