".07%"

[tailhook]

Solid, solid episode.. i liked the wraparound to Isaac Mendez's death. Well handled.

But one thing is starting to concern me looking at the end of the episode leading into the preview. And that one thing is a situation of one two many twists in the chain. Its an affliction that hits a lot of twisty movies and basically it comes down to not knowing when to stop twisting.

Next week takes place 5 years in the future "should our Heroes lose". If its simply a future episode foreshadower ala Babylon Squared... thats one thing. But the way this is playing out they're acting like this is setup to show you what WOULD have happened and then with the final 3 showing you how they avoided it.

But then that raises questions of what was the reason for the bomb subplot anyways? Its one thing to say that it can't be avoided.. its fate... that it will happen... everyone has their part to play.. just like Isaac Mendez's death. But its another thing to then go.. oh wait... but we can avoid it SWERVE. For me thats a twist too far.

It basically comes down to taking a stand in telling your story. If the story is that they stop this bomb then thats one plot and perflectly valid and if the story is that the bomb can't be stopped then thats also good... but you can't double dip and cross the plots. They are mutually exclusive. The thematic coherence of the story will disintegrate under the stress of trying to fit both in.

Basically.. I hope to hell next week's episode is simply showing you events in the seasons to come... cause if not and they flip back over to 'bomb avoidable' i'm gonna call a major shark jumping.

[sbcadam]

I think Peter will explode becuase nothing that Hiro has tried to change has actually changed.
I think this episode is just to try to trick you into believing that the bomb is not going to explode and this is a "What If..." senario...
But if it were me, I'd show this episode and then have him explode anyways, so everbody will be like....WTF!

[tailhook]

Originally Posted by sbcadam

I think Peter will explode becuase nothing that Hiro has tried to change has actually changed.
I think this episode is just to try to trick you into believing that the bomb is not going to explode and this is a "What If..." senario...
But if it were me, I'd show this episode and then have him explode anyways, so everbody will be like....WTF!

The point was... I would be like.. WTF.. if they didn't. If they're playing it straight up the promo was just misleading for next week.

[Matthew Bennet]

Well, I think that what Hiro will be seeing is the future where Claire wasn't saved. That way Peter doesn't have the ability to heal himself, and Sylar gets him.
I think it's radiation man that does the exploding, not Peter. After the explosion, you'd have a world led by Nathan who goes corrupt, because Peter is no longer there to hold Nathans moral complex up, you'd have everybody trying to go after Sylar, but being largely unsuccessful.

[justimberlake]

Honestly, .07% is really exciting, but i still don't understand that
why Isaac said "to die here, with you" (he said this to Sylar)
Does this imply that Sylar will be dead soon?
And how could that happen? Because Isaac is already dead, he can do nothing on that.
Or somebody else will do that (to kill Sylar) for the painter?

i really don't get it. What does this "die with you" actually mean? and how?

I'd appreciate it if anybody would explain this to me.

[garbonzo]

Here's what I'm thinking about Isaac's death:

He told Sylar, "to die here, with you" because he's seen something (in that book he gave the courier) that indicates that Sylar will use his power; he'll paint something that affects his actions in such a way that it'll bring about his downfall. Sylar'll paint a self-fulfilling prophecy. That's why Isaac didn't just kill himself. He knew that Sylar'd need to take his power.

[tailhook]

Originally Posted by garbonzo

Here's what I'm thinking about Isaac's death:

He told Sylar, "to die here, with you" because he's seen something (in that book he gave the courier) that indicates that Sylar will use his power; he'll paint something that affects his actions in such a way that it'll bring about his downfall. Sylar'll paint a self-fulfilling prophecy. That's why Isaac didn't just kill himself. He knew that Sylar'd need to take his power.

I like it.

[justimberlake]

Originally Posted by garbonzo

Here's what I'm thinking about Isaac's death:

He told Sylar, "to die here, with you" because he's seen something (in that book he gave the courier) that indicates that Sylar will use his power; he'll paint something that affects his actions in such a way that it'll bring about his downfall. Sylar'll paint a self-fulfilling prophecy. That's why Isaac didn't just kill himself. He knew that Sylar'd need to take his power.

thank u for explaining this to me!

So A is going to die with B does not necessarily mean the two persons are going to die at the SAME time or at the SAME place, does it ?

I'm working so hard on understanding Isaac's seemingly no-fighting death.
And it seems you guys quite agree with the answer given above.

[veljik]

I was thinking about why claire is alive in the future, but sylar is also alive, and it really confuzzles me. They saved the cheerleader, and Hiro claims to have cut Sylar, but he's still alive, meaning they haven't saved the cheerleader, but maybe they have saved the cheerleader, but in a different place, at a different time, and they're trapped in another outcome that resulted from the same actions, along Hiro's web of lines and ropes and ****.

And anyways, me and my freind we're debating this ****, but then not really because we're both out of our element... Just thought i'd bring that to this discussion.

[adnansh]

Ive been wondering about Sylar...If he had taken the power from the waitress at the Cafe who had super memory, how come he was upset in episode 19 when the computer with all the names and adds was destrayed...If he was with Mohinder for so long..wouldnt he have been able to memorize all of them without needing to refer back to it?...Im not sure if ive missed something out or understood it wrongly...but I hope someone can mayeb clear this point for me...thanks