"Save the Cheerleader...Save the World." - Page 4

10-26-2006, 01:36 AM

I think everybody is over looking one thing about Claire and the theme "Save the Cheerleader, Save the World." (could be that most of these posts were before the episode I'm about to refer to, but...)

We know that at the Victory Bon Fire, Claire went off alone with the Quarterback and he tried to rape her and then pushed her down, accedentally killing her, or at least he thought he had killed her (people tend to be dead when they have something like a stick penatrating through their skull going into their brain...), not knowing her unique ability to not die.

Okay, So scientifically speaking, every action has an equal and opposite reaction, right? So taking that fact and applying it to, instead of physical objects, choices and things you do in life, every choice you make leads you down a certain path. To take a quote from one of my favorite movies, "The only rules that really matter are these, What a man (or woman) CAN do, and what a man (or woman) CAN'T do."

So Claire could have chosen NOT to kiss the Quarterback and she could have chosen NOT to go off alone with the quarterback. In fact she could have chosen NOT to go to the Bon Fire in the first place (which she talked her foster dad to let her go to even tho he was against her going on a school night) therefore NOT putting herself in a situation where he [the quarterback] had the oppertunity to get her alone and attempt to rape her and eventually accedentally "kill" her, having her wind up on an autopsy table cut open only to wake up and then put herself back together and leave as if nothing happened, going back to her home.

My theory is that if that the other Heroes can gather together, or just one of them or a few of them, or whatever, and go to that bon fire and stop her from dying, perhaps that could have some kind of effect on whether the Nuke is released in NYC. Because think about it, Corpses don't just get up off the autopsy table and walk away. I'm sure that the Coriner is going to be very freaked out, most likely thinking that somebody stole the body of Claire. If Police investigate and find that Clair is alive when she was clearly "dead" on the autopsy table. Everything that happens in the world has an effect on everything and everybody else, especially if it gets huge amounts of media coverage. The one thing Claire is afraid of is being turned into some kind of freak and guinie pig. If any government got a hold on Claire and studied her and how she can never be hurt or killed, and they figured out how to harness that or extract it from her and transplant whatever genetic code makes her able to live into soldiers, that country would have an unbeatable military, And if terrorists or anybody that hates the U.S. found out about her, What better way to find her than to let off atomic bombs until you find the person who can't die.

wonderwoman · 10-26-2006, 02:54 AM

its kind of ironic, save the cheerleader and you save the whoel world.. i thought it wouldn come to saving i dont know maybe the scientist.. guess one super powerful cheerleader its what takes..

kmw4121 · 10-26-2006, 08:36 AM

well mabey its about claire being able to dismantle the nuke as the radiation would kill her but the damage would repare its self !!!!

but mabey she will just batt her eyelids at the bad guys and make them turn to goo!!!

10-26-2006, 02:25 PM

When Hiro teleported to New York, it wasn't until the end of the next episode that we learned that it was also 5 weeks into the future. Here's a thought:
What if the Claire storyline that is in the show is ealier/later than the events of the the rest of the heroes.
So far the only links between them have been her father showing up around the other and the eclipse.

1) The Eclipse - Though rare, the is not the first and only time an eclipse has happened. The one that Claire saw could have been an earlier or later one. Possibly a later one since Isaac only paints the future (ie the train crash).

2) Mr. Bennet - Even though he has been in the other characters' lives so far, we don't really have a way of knowing when this occurs with respect to Claire's story.

If the events of Claire's story happen later than the others, it must be within the five weeks before the explosion in New York. Otherwise, it either didn't have an impact on people in Texas (remember how 9/11 effected the entire USA...well, multiply that by 1,000,000...that's why I don't think it's this scenario) or the Heroes stop the explosion and saving the cheerleader doesn't have anything to do with the NY explosion. Another thing to remember, the message was 'Save the Cheerleader, Save the World.' Right now the Heroes are trying to stop New York from being destroyed...New York City isn't the world. It would be plausible to stop that before saving the Claire.
Please, tell me what you think.

I was then told that it must be at the same time because HRG gets a phone call about Claire's accident. To this I replied:

The phone call could have been something else. That's all I have right now to go on that explanation...I know it's not the best counter.

Also, the girl that Matt found hiding in the house could be a younger Claire. Sylar was even trying to get to her when she was young. My extended theory is that HRG is part of a Government organization that either created or is trying to regulate people with powers. He adopted Claire after her parents were killed and had MM wipe her memory of the murders and Sylar. This would put the rest of the heroes' time around 10 years later/before.

10-26-2006, 03:09 PM

Isaac watched the train wrecked claire ran into live on TV..................

10-26-2006, 04:12 PM

i just have a feeling that whatever is going to happen to claire, i think it involves either claire's dad or sylar or maybe both.

claire's dad because he's hunting the rest of the heroes.

sylar because. . . i think he's a hero gone crazy.

there are so many possibilites i don't know where to start.

10-26-2006, 05:05 PM

That put's that to rest...thanks for the input.

kmw4121 · 10-29-2006, 07:04 PM

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i just have a feeling that whatever is going to happen to claire, i think it involves either claire's dad or sylar or maybe both.

claire's dad because he's hunting the rest of the heroes.

sylar because. . . i think he's a hero gone crazy.

there are so many possibilites i don't know where to start.[/b]

some people are sayin that peter petrelli is sylar ? i dont think its true as hiro would have done something to him in the subway car ?

what you guys think ?

10-29-2006, 09:54 PM

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some people are sayin that peter petrelli is sylar ? i dont think its true as hiro would have done something to him in the subway car ?

what you guys think ?[/b]

Yeah i don't think Peter is Sylar, Hiro would have for sure done something when he spoke to Peter in the Train. Plus Peter obsorbs the power of whoever he is around, Sylar was near no one when he almost made that cop pull the trigger on her head.

10-29-2006, 09:58 PM

peter is not sylar.

i was on heroes-tv.com and they said the guy playing slayer is sean bean.

and i agree with SirDrumsAlot, if Peter really was sylar future hiro would have used that sword is was carrying and just killed him right there.

10-26-2006, 08:36 AM	#33
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10-26-2006, 01:36 AM	#31
Alexandria Posts: n/a	I think everybody is over looking one thing about Claire and the theme "Save the Cheerleader, Save the World." (could be that most of these posts were before the episode I'm about to refer to, but...) We know that at the Victory Bon Fire, Claire went off alone with the Quarterback and he tried to rape her and then pushed her down, accedentally killing her, or at least he thought he had killed her (people tend to be dead when they have something like a stick penatrating through their skull going into their brain...), not knowing her unique ability to not die. Okay, So scientifically speaking, every action has an equal and opposite reaction, right? So taking that fact and applying it to, instead of physical objects, choices and things you do in life, every choice you make leads you down a certain path. To take a quote from one of my favorite movies, "The only rules that really matter are these, What a man (or woman) CAN do, and what a man (or woman) CAN'T do." So Claire could have chosen NOT to kiss the Quarterback and she could have chosen NOT to go off alone with the quarterback. In fact she could have chosen NOT to go to the Bon Fire in the first place (which she talked her foster dad to let her go to even tho he was against her going on a school night) therefore NOT putting herself in a situation where he [the quarterback] had the oppertunity to get her alone and attempt to rape her and eventually accedentally "kill" her, having her wind up on an autopsy table cut open only to wake up and then put herself back together and leave as if nothing happened, going back to her home. My theory is that if that the other Heroes can gather together, or just one of them or a few of them, or whatever, and go to that bon fire and stop her from dying, perhaps that could have some kind of effect on whether the Nuke is released in NYC. Because think about it, Corpses don't just get up off the autopsy table and walk away. I'm sure that the Coriner is going to be very freaked out, most likely thinking that somebody stole the body of Claire. If Police investigate and find that Clair is alive when she was clearly "dead" on the autopsy table. Everything that happens in the world has an effect on everything and everybody else, especially if it gets huge amounts of media coverage. The one thing Claire is afraid of is being turned into some kind of freak and guinie pig. If any government got a hold on Claire and studied her and how she can never be hurt or killed, and they figured out how to harness that or extract it from her and transplant whatever genetic code makes her able to live into soldiers, that country would have an unbeatable military, And if terrorists or anybody that hates the U.S. found out about her, What better way to find her than to let off atomic bombs until you find the person who can't die.

10-26-2006, 02:54 AM	#32
wonderwoman Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2	its kind of ironic, save the cheerleader and you save the whoel world.. i thought it wouldn come to saving i dont know maybe the scientist.. guess one super powerful cheerleader its what takes..

10-26-2006, 02:25 PM	#34
Facetious T Posts: n/a	When Hiro teleported to New York, it wasn't until the end of the next episode that we learned that it was also 5 weeks into the future. Here's a thought: What if the Claire storyline that is in the show is ealier/later than the events of the the rest of the heroes. So far the only links between them have been her father showing up around the other and the eclipse. 1) The Eclipse - Though rare, the is not the first and only time an eclipse has happened. The one that Claire saw could have been an earlier or later one. Possibly a later one since Isaac only paints the future (ie the train crash). 2) Mr. Bennet - Even though he has been in the other characters' lives so far, we don't really have a way of knowing when this occurs with respect to Claire's story. If the events of Claire's story happen later than the others, it must be within the five weeks before the explosion in New York. Otherwise, it either didn't have an impact on people in Texas (remember how 9/11 effected the entire USA...well, multiply that by 1,000,000...that's why I don't think it's this scenario) or the Heroes stop the explosion and saving the cheerleader doesn't have anything to do with the NY explosion. Another thing to remember, the message was 'Save the Cheerleader, Save the World.' Right now the Heroes are trying to stop New York from being destroyed...New York City isn't the world. It would be plausible to stop that before saving the Claire. Please, tell me what you think. I was then told that it must be at the same time because HRG gets a phone call about Claire's accident. To this I replied: The phone call could have been something else. That's all I have right now to go on that explanation...I know it's not the best counter. Also, the girl that Matt found hiding in the house could be a younger Claire. Sylar was even trying to get to her when she was young. My extended theory is that HRG is part of a Government organization that either created or is trying to regulate people with powers. He adopted Claire after her parents were killed and had MM wipe her memory of the murders and Sylar. This would put the rest of the heroes' time around 10 years later/before.

10-26-2006, 03:09 PM	#35
Anji Posts: n/a	Isaac watched the train wrecked claire ran into live on TV..................

10-26-2006, 04:12 PM	#36
Zero Girl 23 Posts: n/a	i just have a feeling that whatever is going to happen to claire, i think it involves either claire's dad or sylar or maybe both. claire's dad because he's hunting the rest of the heroes. sylar because. . . i think he's a hero gone crazy. there are so many possibilites i don't know where to start.

10-26-2006, 05:05 PM	#37
Facetious T Posts: n/a	That put's that to rest...thanks for the input.

10-29-2006, 09:58 PM	#40
Zero Girl 23 Posts: n/a	peter is not sylar. i was on heroes-tv.com and they said the guy playing slayer is sean bean. and i agree with SirDrumsAlot, if Peter really was sylar future hiro would have used that sword is was carrying and just killed him right there.