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Old 05-15-2007, 10:24 PM   #1
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ok this part absolutly makes no sense. in episode 20 when future hiro says i stabbed sylar but he regenerated makes absolutly no sense because clare is still alive and sylar takes her powers at the end of the episode. what the hell can someone explain!??!?!?!!??!?!
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Old 05-16-2007, 06:31 AM   #2
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My theory was that Sylar, in future Hiro's timeline, stole Linderman's power and thus was able to regenerate himself.
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Old 05-16-2007, 02:06 PM   #3
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i dont think lindermans power is to regenerate himself and linderman's brains are like blown out in the past
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Old 05-16-2007, 03:57 PM   #4
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It Makes perfect sense if you watched it in context. Hiro from the future went back into time and said "save the cheerleader" Because if he had never killed claire and absorbed her, he would not have that regen power, and would have died back then after he was stabbed(Incorrect thinking obviously since the explosion still happened, but future Hiro believed it)

That was why the whole "save the cheerleader" storyline was there. So Sylar did get the regen.
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Old 05-16-2007, 05:52 PM   #5
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but you see future hiro says that he stabbed sylar and sylar regenerated and later in the episode you see clare alive which makes no sense sylar couldnt have regenerated
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Old 05-16-2007, 08:25 PM   #6
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Episode 20 was a BIG mistake, in fact it has a serious flaw.

The first time Hiro travels in time, he goes to NY 5 weeks forward.
Hiro got busted by some cops at isaac's loft.
The cops calls Ando who IS in Japan.
Ando says: Hiro is beeing missing for 5 weeks.

This states that Hiro skipped 5 weeks of his life in Japan
and reapered instantly in NY 5 weeks later.

When Hiro and Ando travels 5 years into the future
Hiro And Ando should have skipped 5 years of their lives so that future's "reality" is caused by Hiro and Ando missing (Not taking any action/interaction ).

So Hiro meeting with himself and Ando beeing dead are imposible facts.

see what i mean? that is the Author using two diferent criteria for the exact same case.

Some of you would say: yes but Hiro got back to his time at the end of the episode 20, and that makes it posible for him meeting with himself after all.

i then say: Hiro got back to his time the first time too. that means that someone else should have picked up the phone and says that Hiro And Ando were missing, or saying that they went to america 5 weeks ago, or any other explanation, but it is Ando the one that answers the phone.

So the "reality" in which Ando picked up the phone got invalid "when hiro travels back, not before", it as a valid reality while hiro was in the future. When he get back he took Ando into his mission making that phone call imposible.

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Old 05-16-2007, 09:51 PM   #7
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lol you didnt answer my question i asked why sylar has regeneration abilities when clare is still alive can you answer that question pleaseee very good job on noticing that detail
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Old 05-16-2007, 10:01 PM   #8
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Hi Tainger, how are you.
big hug from Mérida Yucatán México.

Well my friend, that was my answer. Aparently you are right IT DOESNT MAKE ANY SENSE.

I think the author made a mistake with this episode.

Theoretically Hiro travels from a point in time in which claire is safe ( Sylar can't regenerate ). So that future as described by Future Hiro is imposible, so far the only one that could regenerate when beeing stabbed is Peter.

i mean, Future Hiro shouldn't even be there. that is wrong.

I think what we will see in this season is about the chain of events that lead to the bomb happening, not stoping it.

But lets think a litle more, maybe there is a "flawless explanation for all this".
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Old 05-17-2007, 10:56 AM   #9
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i dont think lindermans power is to regenerate himself
Why would Linderman's powers be able to heal other people, but not himself?

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and linderman's brains are like blown out in the past
That's why I made the comment about Future Hiro's timeline. Maybe in future Hiro's timeline DL didn't put his fist through Linderman's head.

Also, there exists another explanation... either Sylar or Candice used her perception alteration powers to make Hiro think that he stabbed Sylar.... I'm not sure why Candice would do this, but it would make sense if Sylar did. It's really hard to fight against somebody who can freeze time, best to alter his perception so that even if he attacks you, his powers would be useless.
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Old 05-17-2007, 06:38 PM   #10
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Episode 20 was a BIG mistake, in fact it has a serious flaw.

The first time Hiro travels in time, he goes to NY 5 weeks forward.
Hiro got busted by some cops at isaac's loft.
The cops calls Ando who IS in Japan.
Ando says: Hiro is beeing missing for 5 weeks.

This states that Hiro skipped 5 weeks of his life in Japan
and reapered instantly in NY 5 weeks later.

When Hiro and Ando travels 5 years into the future
Hiro And Ando should have skipped 5 years of their lives so that future's "reality" is caused by Hiro and Ando missing (Not taking any action/interaction ).

So Hiro meeting with himself and Ando beeing dead are imposible facts.

see what i mean? that is the Author using two diferent criteria for the exact same case.

Some of you would say: yes but Hiro got back to his time at the end of the episode 20, and that makes it posible for him meeting with himself after all.

i then say: Hiro got back to his time the first time too. that means that someone else should have picked up the phone and says that Hiro And Ando were missing, or saying that they went to america 5 weeks ago, or any other explanation, but it is Ando the one that answers the phone.

So the "reality" in which Ando picked up the phone got invalid "when hiro travels back, not before", it as a valid reality while hiro was in the future. When he get back he took Ando into his mission making that phone call imposible.
Valid logic but i'm afraid i have to disagree with you. Go re-watch the first episode. Hiro doesn't pull this off as well as you think. There is a clock behind him. as he's trying to teleport it starts speeding up until the point the numbers are basically flying by. showing (To my understanding)he goes forward five weeks and then he teleports.

Edit:
The sylar regeneration thing got to hand it to Roshi. Perception was changed somewhere along the line I'm thinking.

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