Peter Petrelli Is The Container Of All Powers.

03-07-2007, 03:59 AM

peter petrelli is the containe of all powers.he has all the power even the power of a person he hasn't met.he can use his power anytime he want.he can even resurrect like simeon does.Simoen is shot by isaac when he was after peter.isaac thought simoen was dead but simoen ressurected

03-07-2007, 05:59 AM

Umm... When did Simone Resurrect? She's dead. Last episode it was the Shapeshifter [reality-bender?], Candace, that made it seem like Simone was still alive. Peter can't be the container of all the powers, how did Claude and some of the other people with gifts in the earlier years get theirs then?

I believe Peter has the set-up of genes that Sylar has, as such he does have all the powers, but only when he comes in contact with them.

Drafterman · 05-02-2007, 11:55 AM

I'm a firm believer in Sylar and Peter being different.

While the outward appearance might be the same (they exhibit the abilities of other people) the mechanics are different. Peter merely needs to have met the person, while Sylar appears to need to 'see' how it works and then alter himself similarly.

A friend have mind has posited that Sylar merely 'thinks' he needs to take people's brains, when in actuality he is just like Peter. A possibility, but I doubt it. Sylar's needing to kill people is what makes him inherently evil.

What is interesting is that Peter has yet to exhibit any of Sylar's other powers (cryokinesis, melting, enhanced memory/learning, super hearing). At first I wanted to say that he could only absorb Sylar's native ability (telekinesis) but then I realized that telekinesis isn't Sylar's native ability, he stole that one too. If Peter can use telekinesis, he should be able to use any of the other abilities too.

tailhook · 05-02-2007, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Drafterman

A friend have mind has posited that Sylar merely 'thinks' he needs to take people's brains, when in actuality he is just like Peter. A possibility, but I doubt it. Sylar's needing to kill people is what makes him inherently evil.

Plus the postulating is that Sylar now has whatever powers he met(like regeneration from Claire), he just doesn't know how to use it yet.. which is problematic because you would assume he would figure that out over time as Peter has.. even if by accident. It does make a much better story if they are both inherently different yet somewhat the same. Like the old adage more than one way to skin a cat.

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Originally Posted by Drafterman

What is interesting is that Peter has yet to exhibit any of Sylar's other powers (cryokinesis, melting, enhanced memory/learning, super hearing). At first I wanted to say that he could only absorb Sylar's native ability (telekinesis) but then I realized that telekinesis isn't Sylar's native ability, he stole that one too. If Peter can use telekinesis, he should be able to use any of the other abilities too.

Correct.

Drafterman · 05-02-2007, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tailhook

Plus the postulating is that Sylar now has whatever powers he met(like regeneration from Claire), he just doesn't know how to use it yet.. which is problematic because you would assume he would figure that out over time as Peter has.. even if by accident. It does make a much better story if they are both inherently different yet somewhat the same. Like the old adage more than one way to skin a cat.

If Sylar was exactly like Peter then yes, he would, at some point, manage to harness Claire's power. This would then render the whole "Save the Cheerleader, Save the World" thing moot, which would be sad, since they whole show has basically revolved around it.

Granted the concept was arrived at by future-Hiro, and could be wrong, but from from a plot-line point of view it would be bad to create this whole thing, only to have it be undermined later.

Nopaco4u · 05-08-2007, 01:43 AM

Peter and Sylar are different. (Duh)

Sylar cuts off people heads, reads their brain and learns how to use their power. He has to kill them and examine their brain to aquire the power but when he does, he immediatly knows how to use it.

Peter aquires the powers from contact, by accident, but does not know how to use them. He can't use the powers, unless he figures out what he has, how he got it, and then figure out how it works. Up to episode 21, peter has all the powers that the current Sylar has, but doesn't know it. He saw Sylar use telekinesis, so he has learned to controll it. He has no idea he can super-hear or freeze things, and hasn't tried to controll the finger cutting ability.

Peter stumbles into a power and is initially unstable. Sylar searches for power, and gains knowledge immediatly

Roshi · 05-08-2007, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Nopaco4u

Peter and Sylar are different. (Duh)

Sylar cuts off people heads, reads their brain and learns how to use their power. He has to kill them and examine their brain to acquire the power but when he does, he immediately knows how to use it.

This isn't 100% true, Sylar had difficulties adjusting to his super-hearing.

Oh, and where do the brains go if he just needs to study them?

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Originally Posted by Nopaco4u

Peter aquires the powers from contact, by accident, but does not know how to use them. He can't use the powers, unless he figures out what he has, how he got it, and then figure out how it works. Up to episode 21, peter has all the powers that the current Sylar has, but doesn't know it. He saw Sylar use telekinesis, so he has learned to controll it. He has no idea he can super-hear or freeze things, and hasn't tried to controll the finger cutting ability.

Peter stumbles into a power and is initially unstable. Sylar searches for power, and gains knowledge immediatly

In the most recent graphic novels, Peter almost instantaneously learns how to use two new powers (super speed and lightning bolts) with no practise.

Also, I think that the "finger cutting ability" is just Sylar's telekinesis applied in an unusual way.

Nopaco4u · 05-08-2007, 08:05 PM

While some details of Sylar stolen abilities, aren't refined, he learns them immediatly, and masters quickly. What he does with/to the brain is unimportant.

Peter gathers the abilities by accident, and often is unawear, thus has to work to master them. Some abilities might just take less getting use to. I don't read the novels, nor do I really care about them, but it would seem to make sense that the more abilities he learned to master, the easier it would be to learn new abilities.

Also, the finger cutting may or may not be unique. We know that after he killed the telekinesis person, he went on a killing spree, and was considered a serial killer when he went after Charlie, and molly's parents, when parkman got introduced to the case. How many he killed, what powers were obtained and how he killed them is unknown. 21 reviled that freezing water is on that he got, but there definatly a few abilities he gathered. Telekinisis is shown to be purely mental, whenever he cuts the head, he points his finger at the victem. This definatly leads me to believe it was one he gathered in his original spree.

Roshi · 05-10-2007, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Nopaco4u

Telekinisis is shown to be purely mental, whenever he cuts the head, he points his finger at the victem. This definatly leads me to believe it was one he gathered in his original spree.

Both Peter and he do use there hands when performing telekinesis, whether they need to or not. For example, when Peter and Sylar were fighting in Suresh's apartment, Sylar used his hand to control the glass and when Peter closed the door on Parkman in "5 Years Gone" he swung his arm around to do it.

Though, it's certainly possible that finger cutting could be a unique ability.

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03-07-2007, 03:59 AM	#1
vice_03 Posts: n/a	peter petrelli is the containe of all powers.he has all the power even the power of a person he hasn't met.he can use his power anytime he want.he can even resurrect like simeon does.Simoen is shot by isaac when he was after peter.isaac thought simoen was dead but simoen ressurected

03-07-2007, 05:59 AM	#2
Firestalker Posts: n/a	Umm... When did Simone Resurrect? She's dead. Last episode it was the Shapeshifter [reality-bender?], Candace, that made it seem like Simone was still alive. Peter can't be the container of all the powers, how did Claude and some of the other people with gifts in the earlier years get theirs then? I believe Peter has the set-up of genes that Sylar has, as such he does have all the powers, but only when he comes in contact with them.

05-02-2007, 11:55 AM	#3
Drafterman Junior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 3	I'm a firm believer in Sylar and Peter being different. While the outward appearance might be the same (they exhibit the abilities of other people) the mechanics are different. Peter merely needs to have met the person, while Sylar appears to need to 'see' how it works and then alter himself similarly. A friend have mind has posited that Sylar merely 'thinks' he needs to take people's brains, when in actuality he is just like Peter. A possibility, but I doubt it. Sylar's needing to kill people is what makes him inherently evil. What is interesting is that Peter has yet to exhibit any of Sylar's other powers (cryokinesis, melting, enhanced memory/learning, super hearing). At first I wanted to say that he could only absorb Sylar's native ability (telekinesis) but then I realized that telekinesis isn't Sylar's native ability, he stole that one too. If Peter can use telekinesis, he should be able to use any of the other abilities too.

05-08-2007, 01:43 AM	#6
Nopaco4u Junior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 6	Peter and Sylar are different. (Duh) Sylar cuts off people heads, reads their brain and learns how to use their power. He has to kill them and examine their brain to aquire the power but when he does, he immediatly knows how to use it. Peter aquires the powers from contact, by accident, but does not know how to use them. He can't use the powers, unless he figures out what he has, how he got it, and then figure out how it works. Up to episode 21, peter has all the powers that the current Sylar has, but doesn't know it. He saw Sylar use telekinesis, so he has learned to controll it. He has no idea he can super-hear or freeze things, and hasn't tried to controll the finger cutting ability. Peter stumbles into a power and is initially unstable. Sylar searches for power, and gains knowledge immediatly

05-08-2007, 08:05 PM	#8
Nopaco4u Junior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 6	While some details of Sylar stolen abilities, aren't refined, he learns them immediatly, and masters quickly. What he does with/to the brain is unimportant. Peter gathers the abilities by accident, and often is unawear, thus has to work to master them. Some abilities might just take less getting use to. I don't read the novels, nor do I really care about them, but it would seem to make sense that the more abilities he learned to master, the easier it would be to learn new abilities. Also, the finger cutting may or may not be unique. We know that after he killed the telekinesis person, he went on a killing spree, and was considered a serial killer when he went after Charlie, and molly's parents, when parkman got introduced to the case. How many he killed, what powers were obtained and how he killed them is unknown. 21 reviled that freezing water is on that he got, but there definatly a few abilities he gathered. Telekinisis is shown to be purely mental, whenever he cuts the head, he points his finger at the victem. This definatly leads me to believe it was one he gathered in his original spree.