Heroes & their "Protectors"

Exterminator, Mr. Bennett, Mohinders Neighbor; misdirection and actually good guys? A concept in several paragraphs! Take the time to read and discuss

Episode one, Mr. Bennet:
"No he left everything behind except his computer. Research, The map. Yeah, lets get a team in here to bag it and tag it" ~ At Mohinder/Papa Suresh's Apartment. This is our first concrete evidence declaring that yes, he is reporting in to someone and is part of a larger group. They're also collecting all this Heroes evidence for their own studying. THIS we know, lets continue.

Episode one, Mr Bennet:
"Lots of Sureshs from where you're from. Like Smith. or Anderson"
Trying to read if Mohinder is who he really is. Look at Mr Bennets expression as he exits the car. Is it a smug "we'll get you later" like first interpreted, but the last 3 seconds of the clip it could be read as a confused "why are you running".

Episode one, Exterminator:
When forced into drawing his pistol he made the quick backtrack to flee from the room and not shoot Mohinder dead even though he had an obvious advantage. After the exterminator escapes and Mohinder is "rescued" by his neighbor we get lead into episode 3 where after Mohinder and her find the room of Sylars, they rush to tell the police. At this point his neighbor could be seen as part of Mr Bennets group. She called in a team (just like episode 1 hinted at) to quickly clean the place up of any evidence, thus explaining how everything was removed when they returned. This "shadowgroup" as I'll refer to is attempting to use the maps (Sylar: whos had more, and Papa Suresh in India & New York) to track down the Heroes. Either this or shes an opposing group of Mr Bennets also trying to track down Heroes, more time will tell.

Episode 2, Isaacs Apartment
Back to the silver gun now. Upon rewatching episode 2 where Hiro enters Isaacs apartment and we see the silver-pistol before Isaacs sawed-away-skull (one the exterminator was weilding as well) a connection could be drawn. The exterminator was trying to tap Mohinder Sureshs phone, not kill him. If we take into consideration these guys are trying to observe the Heroes, not kill them, it can be guessed that somewhere down the line Isaac could have a run in with this group.

The gun could presumably be Isaacs. Drawing a weapon to protect himself from this Brain-Slicing force (as Isaacs powers are non-combative or assist in escaping in anyway) Isaac failed defending himself in the future (november 8th) and dies (Same day Nathan Petrelli wins in a congressional landslide, and the same day the nuke vaporizes new york).

Why would the gun be there? Brain-Slicing identity weilded it? Or possibly Isaac got the weapon from this mystery "shadow group" in cahoots with Claires father, Mr. Bennett. But then, why would he have gotten the gun from Mr. Bennett if he's evil?

Episode 2 Mr Bennett:
"I'm not done protecting you from the world" ~To Claire at timecode 36:25. Why has he bothered to adopt this girl to begin with? What are his ties to her real parents and the adoption agency? Its no coincidence that Claire has the powers she does and is living under the same roof as someone working for a shadow group.

Episode 2 Mr Bennett:
-Taking the Videotape of Claires Injuries- Perhaps very well to keep the evidence of her powers from the world and to protect her as opposed to taking this information to study. Also if the tape went missing it would discourage Claire from taking another for fear it would also go missing and for Claire herself, the last thing she wants is for people to know about her healing powers.

Episode 3 Mr Bennet (again):
"Claire. Be Careful, okay?"
Obviously knowing of her regenerative abilities how could Claire not just recover from any wound. This whole Double-meaning of convenience can be seen here quite well as instead of this JUST acknowledging he knows of her powers, hes still looking out for her.

Episode 4: Matts Abduction Blue Room
Heres where the anti-evil speculation comes in. Although episode 104-promo states "The face of evil is revealed" while Mr. Bennet is talking to Matt: "We want to learn more about you" alongside our mystery black man covering the camera lens it could be possible this is a lead-on. Meant to divert us and that this scene itself inst revealing the villians, but this is a test to see if Matt does have Hero powers, and endow him self some kind of warning from a real threat.
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Conclusion
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Mr. Bennetts group is going to alot of trouble to keep the Heroes under wraps. Complete clean sweeps of the homes of those researching the Heroes, surveillance and supression of information. Perhaps they're trying to keep information of the Heroes being leaked to the wrong people. With Isaac and the gun idea they may even be working with some of the heroes (in the future) and could even be out there to protect them from forces like the Brain-Slicing (hence the weapon as protection, as well as supressing the map research and Claires tape).

Comic Book Refrence: S.H.I.E.L.D. of Marvel comics fame. The Avengers and The Ultimates, teams funded by Nick Fury to help heroes work together to stop forces beyond anything controllable by the military, hence they inlist great heroes (Thor, Captain America, Iron Man).

DISCUSS!

You'll notice someone was taking notes during Matt's interview with the FBI. We don't know who it was. I'm sure someone could grab high quality pics of the actual notes though.

HRG man and his companion had to find out about Matt someway.

I have several reasons to believe that Glasses (Claire's "dad") may not be a bad guy.

NOTE: Not being a bad guy is not the same as being a good guy. He may not be a good guy either. He definitely seems to have his own agenda.

NOTE: Not being a bad guy is not the same as being nice. He's definitely not nice.

Here are some points that support the theory that Glasses may not be a bad guy.

1) He didn't "hurt" Matt in any way we're aware of. We don't know what he did to Matt, but he didn't kill him. Personally, I think we're being led to believe that he's done something dastardly and sneaky to hurt Matt later. I think he's actually done something sneaky and helpful to Matt. (and probably has the same thing in mind for Claire if she ever fesses up about her powers).

2) He really hasn't done anything to hurt Claire that we're aware of. Personally I think there was actually a paternal (yet twisted) bent to his treatment of Brody in the hospital.

3) He didn't "hurt" Nathan when he definitely could have.

4) According to another theory of mine, Nathan is shaping up to be the "main" criminal mastermind type bad guy. (as opposed to Sylar, whom I think is a foot-soldier type bad guy) Take that for granted while you read point 4, even if you don't agree just yet. The stage was clearly set last night ("I just want to memorize your faces so I know who to take care of later") for Nathan to be opposed to Glasses. From a dramatic storytelling perspective, there's not a lot of good drama in two unsympathetic characters beating the stuffing out of each other. Therefore if Nathan is ultimately going to be "unsympathetic", then glasses must actually be revealed later to be "sympathic" in some way (ie... not exactly a bad guy).

I think Glasses is amoral and is working to further his own agenda, but I don't think he or his agenda is evil in the classic sense. To be frank, he hasn't done anything that I would be surprised to see Batman do. "Sometimes there's a cruddy job that has to get done, and someone has to do it." I think it's going to come to light as a big revalation that Glasses has an agenda that will coincide with a need that the heroes (either individually or collectively) will have, forcing the Heroes into a compromized moral position in order to acheive some major goal... like saving NYC.

Haha, first post! Hope I don't sound like an idiot when I say this.

I believe that Claire's father is completely different from what people have been thinking. He took the policeman, right? Before, he was struggling to grasp a thought of what people around him were saying. Now, he's not able to shut it out! So Horn-rimmed glasses is bringing OUT the powers, and the black guy (sorry, I don't quite remember his name) makes the Heroes forget about it. Because frankly, if you remembered about being experimented on, wouldn't these guys try to get revenge?

Which brings about the questions: Did Nathan already go to Claire's father? Did Claire's father put Nathan up to being the politician in order to get a Hero in power?
Will Isaac be stuck in an eternal "high" if he goes to Claire's father? Will we ever god damn learn Claire's father's name?

I personally feel that Mr. B and Eden are not bad. I think they are good and are working toward bringing the powers of the other heroes out. Almost like a hidden mentor. They know there are heroes, they are learning who they are and they are trying to find them before Sylar kills them. Like all super heroes have those scientists they go to for help. I think that MR. B and Eden are those people. It's like after Matt was kidnapped and his mind was wiped of the memory of them, he went back out and his mindreading power was so much stronger. Then they tried to kidnap Petrelli, but he flew off like they wanted him to. I just think they know Sylar is evil and out there, so they are trying to get these heroes powers to strengthen faster. Does this make since to anyone?

I personally feel that Mr. B and Eden are not bad. I think they are good and are working toward bringing the powers of the other heroes out. Almost like a hidden mentor. They know there are heroes, they are learning who they are and they are trying to find them before Sylar kills them. Like all super heroes have those scientists they go to for help. I think that MR. B and Eden are those people. It's like after Matt was kidnapped and his mind was wiped of the memory of them, he went back out and his mindreading power was so much stronger. Then they tried to kidnap Petrelli, but he flew off like they wanted him to. I just think they know Sylar is evil and out there, so they are trying to get these heroes powers to strengthen faster. Does this make since to anyone?

O.K. I think that theory is perfectly plausable BUT, if Mr. B is such a good guy then why after Claire tryed to kill that guy that tryed to rape her Mr. B threatned to kill him and then he erased all his memory. Yes maybe it was just the actions of a pissed off father but still, ALL HIS MEMORY.......JUST GONE? No GOOD guy does that. And you have to pay attention to the way Mr. B and Eden talk on the phone after Suresh leaves. It's just the tone they use indicates bad doings.

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O.K. I think that theory is perfectly plausable BUT, if Mr. B is such a good guy then why after Claire tryed to kill that guy that tryed to rape her Mr. B threatned to kill him and then he erased all his memory. Yes maybe it was just the actions of a pissed off father but still, ALL HIS MEMORY.......JUST GONE? No GOOD guy does that. And you have to pay attention to the way Mr. B and Eden talk on the phone after Suresh leaves. It's just the tone they use indicates bad doings.

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I actually found that believable, even given the thought that he might be a good guy. I mean, most fathers might actually kill someone if they tried to rape their daughter. So I think erasing his entire memory was actually taking it easy on him.

Also you have to think that he kind of had to erase his memory since he definitely doesn't want anyone knowing Claire is indestructible. I mean, she looked perfect and that little man was beat all to heck.

I personally feel that Mr. B and Eden are not bad. I think they are good and are working toward bringing the powers of the other heroes out. Almost like a hidden mentor. They know there are heroes, they are learning who they are and they are trying to find them before Sylar kills them. Like all super heroes have those scientists they go to for help. I think that MR. B and Eden are those people. It's like after Matt was kidnapped and his mind was wiped of the memory of them, he went back out and his mindreading power was so much stronger. Then they tried to kidnap Petrelli, but he flew off like they wanted him to. I just think they know Sylar is evil and out there, so they are trying to get these heroes powers to strengthen faster. Does this make since to anyone?
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i don't believe they are evil, but i think it will be a little while before their intentions are revealed.

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i don't believe they are evil, but i think it will be a little while before their intentions are revealed.
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The thing I love most about this show (ok one of the things) is that it does not deal with just "good and evil" there are a lot of grey areas. Think about it: Bad Nikki is concerned about the welfare of her/their son, yet perfectly prepared to rip apart anyone who may be able to expose her in any way. Claire saves a stranger from a fire, then tries to kill the boy who tried to rape her. HRG obviously loves his daughter, yet there is a strong indication that he is prepared to treat her like the other Heroes, as subjects for experimentation. Nathan Petrelli loves his family, but is a cheating, scheming Politician who is happy to talk about his wife and family just before he has a one night stand. The show may be called Heroes, but mostly what I see would more properly be classified as Anti-Heroes. In fact, the only true hero I've seen is the one actually called Hiro.