Timeline Comparison - Page 2

kaleidoscope_eyes · 05-13-2007, 12:02 PM

Yeah. The emotional and psychological trauma to the country as a whole following the explosion probably gave Sylar ample room to pass otherwise questionable legislation and mandate otherwise questionable restrictions. I don't think everything has to be uber-complicated.

xxFukung · 08-30-2007, 11:22 AM

In the Five Years Gone episode Peter has a scar across his face, sure this makes him look cool but how is this even possible? He has Claire's regeneration abilities and surely he should have healed beautifully with no scaring?

Kex · 12-19-2007, 05:31 PM

Hey people, ive already talked bout this so im just gonna repost what it all means from another thread i posted on.

-- Right ok here goes...
I'm gonna try and make as much sense of the whole 'save the cheerleader save the world' which seems not to make ANY sense to ANYONE, me to before i tried REALLY hard to figure it out. It probably has a load of holes in it but we'l see.

Lets go from the point where Hiro stabs Sylar, Hiro is thrown in the air by Sylar and disappears for ages to train to become this great warrior ( i think this happens in series 2 but i havent seen it ) He then transports himself back after the explosion has happened to find everything gone wrong.

Now he believes that Sylar was the one to blow up New York, according to him he must have done this by regenerating, because he doesnt know it was Peter, and how would he? Hes been completely left out of the loop ( maybe even told Sylar could regenerate by Peter? )

He then plots a way to save New York by saving the person Sylar gets his regeneration from. He does his research and finds out a cheerleader dies in Union Wells highschool. Hiro believes this is Claire, and thus travels back in time to get Peter Patrelli to help himself in the past save her.

This is where it gets confussing.

Claire was never going to be killed on homecoming, in the 'dark' timeline or the one we watch unfold. It was never going to happen. When Peter meets Claire at the trophy cabinet and talks about Jackie, I think this makes Claire want to confront her in the locker room just before she gets killed, thus completely changing the timelines around, bits are still similar, however when the events happen and who meets who and when have changed. ( This is probably why Sylar has powers such as D.L's phasing, and Candice's ability to create illusions. Sylar by 5 years gone has probably slaughtered most of the 'company' hence why Bennet has gone underground. )

Peter has met Claire, which he either would never have done, or would have done at a much later stage. Sylar now knows about Claire, which he wouldnt have done if she hadnt met Peter and thus confronted Jackie before she gets killed.

Now the most important line in the final episode i think is when Nathan says 'You saved the Cheerleader, so we could save the world' to Peter.

If Peter hadnt saved the Cheerleader Nathan and Claire would never have met, remember that Angela Patrelli has gone many lengths to stop Nathan meeting his long lost daughter and the reason why is simple, Claire is Nathans only real weakness. Angela has manipulated Nathan to the point where he will do pretty much whatever she says, even to the extent of sacrificing Peter for the 'Greater good', Claire is the only real way for Nathan to see past the 'logic' and come to his senses by not murdering millions in New York.

By saving Claire, and thus Claire meeting and talking to Nathan to ask him to stop the bomb, saving the cheerleeder has saved the world. Not the way Hiro imagined but it worked all the same.

Hope that makes sense.

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Oh yer, and Peter couldnt fly because he was concentrating on not exploding in the final episode.

And Peter can only absorb others powers which are active, the only power Sylar uses when around Peter is telekenisis, which Peter has used.

08-30-2007, 11:22 AM	#12
xxFukung Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3	How is it possible that Peter has a SCAR on his head? In the Five Years Gone episode Peter has a scar across his face, sure this makes him look cool but how is this even possible? He has Claire's regeneration abilities and surely he should have healed beautifully with no scaring?

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05-13-2007, 12:02 PM	#11
kaleidoscope_eyes Junior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 14	Yeah. The emotional and psychological trauma to the country as a whole following the explosion probably gave Sylar ample room to pass otherwise questionable legislation and mandate otherwise questionable restrictions. I don't think everything has to be uber-complicated.

12-19-2007, 05:31 PM	#13
Kex Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2	Hey people, ive already talked bout this so im just gonna repost what it all means from another thread i posted on. -- Right ok here goes... I'm gonna try and make as much sense of the whole 'save the cheerleader save the world' which seems not to make ANY sense to ANYONE, me to before i tried REALLY hard to figure it out. It probably has a load of holes in it but we'l see. Lets go from the point where Hiro stabs Sylar, Hiro is thrown in the air by Sylar and disappears for ages to train to become this great warrior ( i think this happens in series 2 but i havent seen it ) He then transports himself back after the explosion has happened to find everything gone wrong. Now he believes that Sylar was the one to blow up New York, according to him he must have done this by regenerating, because he doesnt know it was Peter, and how would he? Hes been completely left out of the loop ( maybe even told Sylar could regenerate by Peter? ) He then plots a way to save New York by saving the person Sylar gets his regeneration from. He does his research and finds out a cheerleader dies in Union Wells highschool. Hiro believes this is Claire, and thus travels back in time to get Peter Patrelli to help himself in the past save her. This is where it gets confussing. Claire was never going to be killed on homecoming, in the 'dark' timeline or the one we watch unfold. It was never going to happen. When Peter meets Claire at the trophy cabinet and talks about Jackie, I think this makes Claire want to confront her in the locker room just before she gets killed, thus completely changing the timelines around, bits are still similar, however when the events happen and who meets who and when have changed. ( This is probably why Sylar has powers such as D.L's phasing, and Candice's ability to create illusions. Sylar by 5 years gone has probably slaughtered most of the 'company' hence why Bennet has gone underground. ) Peter has met Claire, which he either would never have done, or would have done at a much later stage. Sylar now knows about Claire, which he wouldnt have done if she hadnt met Peter and thus confronted Jackie before she gets killed. Now the most important line in the final episode i think is when Nathan says 'You saved the Cheerleader, so we could save the world' to Peter. If Peter hadnt saved the Cheerleader Nathan and Claire would never have met, remember that Angela Patrelli has gone many lengths to stop Nathan meeting his long lost daughter and the reason why is simple, Claire is Nathans only real weakness. Angela has manipulated Nathan to the point where he will do pretty much whatever she says, even to the extent of sacrificing Peter for the 'Greater good', Claire is the only real way for Nathan to see past the 'logic' and come to his senses by not murdering millions in New York. By saving Claire, and thus Claire meeting and talking to Nathan to ask him to stop the bomb, saving the cheerleeder has saved the world. Not the way Hiro imagined but it worked all the same. Hope that makes sense. -- Oh yer, and Peter couldnt fly because he was concentrating on not exploding in the final episode. And Peter can only absorb others powers which are active, the only power Sylar uses when around Peter is telekenisis, which Peter has used.