Season 2, Season 4

roastytoasty · 10-25-2009, 09:20 AM

Everyone used to say how season 2 was horrible, and I could understand where they are coming from. I mean, they didn't even finish the season because of the writers strike. But here are a few reason why season 2 was so much better than this season 4.
1- Lack of characters. I just want to say, where the hell did they all go? Thank you Heroes for not giving an ending to so many characters. Here are a list of just a few.
Mohinder, Micah, Maya, Micah's cousins, Luke Cambell, Aquaman, West, Kaitlin. There are others, but I don't feel like going on.
2- Bad guys. Lets be honest, the villains on this show are nothing short of minor inconveniences, and are all terminated easilly. Sylar is the only one that actually stood a chance, and that is why season 1 was the best. But lets forget about that for right now. Besides Sylar, we had Arthur, (who sucked), Danko, (who sucked), Nathan, (who sucked as a villain), and now Sammuel. Notice I left Adam Monroe out of that. My reason for that is that Adam Monroe was probably the best villain they had on this show, and they killed him off so easilly. So back to the topic at hand, Our new villain. Sammuel, is he good or bad? Who the hell knows, I don't. They haven't revealed any of his motives yet. Plus since were on the subject, where the hell was the carnival throughout the whole series? Adam was alive for over 300 years, and your trying to tell me they never recruited him? And Sylar, they couldn't get him when he was vulnerable in season 1, or 2, or 3? No, they have to get him when he turns into Nathan. It just doesn't make any sense.
3- Bad story lines. Seriously? Come on, I know you could do better than that. Claire going to college does not intrest me at all. I seriously don't care. Oh and good job Matt, take back your wife that cheated on you and probably had someone else baby. And now your going into a delusional psychosis? Well, that part is actually O.K. And Tracy going from this kick ass Ice-woman, back to her old job as a government worker. Yeah, thats why I watch this show, to see people talk to politicians! And Emma, don't even get me started. I can walk through the air too, it's not a big deal. Stop wasting our time, with every episode you going, "I don't want powers", then just walking through the air for five minutes. Your a waste of my time. And yeah, good idea with killing Nathan off, he was the best character on Heroes. And Sylars old self is gone. Ando is now lovey dovey with Kimiko, and his story line sucks. Hiro's dying, (But I have a feeling he wont be soon. I think he's gonna go back in time and save Charlie, which in turn changes the whole time-line).
4- I guess what I'm trying to say is, I don't care. Hereos season 4, you are officially my least favorite out of them all. I do have high hopes for you to get better, and you do have the potential, but I don't see that happening any time soon.

fatj0 · 10-25-2009, 07:25 PM

I know I'm nit-picking again, but as an english double-major, you are going to have to learn to stop using "your" when you mean "you're." The carnival travels... they might've been in canada during the previous events, that's a good way to miss out on things. You can stop watching if you want, I think this is the best season since s1, but that's just me. You obviously care enough about the show to come on here and tell us, despite grammatical and spelling errors, how little you care about it. I doubt he'll save Charlie, she was part of the reason he didn't save his own father, they're not going to mess with that. He probably just wants to finally kiss her. That's my guess. Jayma Mays (Charlie) is doing pretty well on her own show, Glee. I don't see her coming back for more than a couple episodes.

Urine Engineer · 10-27-2009, 01:23 AM

Maybe you should try watching the show. It's pretty clear that whoever died in the first episode of season 4 was preventing the carnival family from interacting with the company side of the world. The company most likely knew about the carnival, but the show is never filmed from the company's perspective. This person was most likely killed because of Nathan/Danko.

In short: Volume 5's carnival plot is most likely a direct result of Volume 4's holocaust plot.

rowancv · 10-27-2009, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Urine Engineer

Maybe you should try watching the show. It's pretty clear that whoever died in the first episode of season 4 was preventing the carnival family from interacting with the company side of the world. The company most likely knew about the carnival, but the show is never filmed from the company's perspective. This person was most likely killed because of Nathan/Danko.

In short: Volume 5's carnival plot is most likely a direct result of Volume 4's holocaust plot.

yeah, when the brother died, it left a void in the family, which caused sullivan to start recruiting. they did hear of sylar, as sullivan told him that his fame precedes him. but i can agree with most of your sentiments man. there's been a lot of lameness. last night's episode, for instance, i felt like was a wasted of time.

Urine Engineer · 10-27-2009, 09:36 PM

Last night's episode was pretty bad.

roastytoasty · 10-28-2009, 10:28 AM

[FONT='Times New Roman','serif']For the most part, you guys are misunderstanding me. Just because season 4 is my least favorite season, that doesn’t mean that I dislike it. I still like Heroes, and I will watch it to the end. I’m just hoping that it gets better is all. And ‘fatj’, thank you for pointing out my grammatical errors, I hope you know I’m typing really fast, and can’t care about silly little things like and apostrophe when I am typing to people who don’t really care about it in the first place. ffice

ffice" />>>[/font]
[FONT='Times New Roman','serif']Also, I understand why there are people out there that like this season, it might even be their favorite, but that’s their opinion. I’m just trying to state my own opinion. The reason why I posted this is because me and my friends were debating over which was better, season 2 or 4. I wasn’t saying I hated it, I was saying that it was worse than 2, that’s all. For instance, I am the biggest Lost fan, (That I know of anyway), and season 4 is my least favorite. I still like Lost more than any other show I know, so I don’t hate it. >>[/font]
[FONT='Times New Roman','serif']So please understand, I’m not trying to hate on Heroes, because believe me, I have supported it since season 1 episode 1, I’m just hoping it gets better.>>[/font]
[FONT='Times New Roman','serif']Anyway, you are right, after seeing the scenes from the next episode, it looks like Hiro is actually the cause of Charlies death. He will probably go back in time, thinking he will save her, then he realizes that if he saves Charlie, then Claire will get chopped open by Sylar, giving him the healing power mad early in the show, causing him to win in the fight against Peter, causing the explosions. So then he will go back in time again and actually let Sylar kill her.>>[/font]

roastytoasty · 10-28-2009, 10:29 AM

Also, sorry about all that wierd font stuff going on there, I'm not sure how it ended up there...

Urine Engineer · 10-28-2009, 05:18 PM

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Anyway, you are right, after seeing the scenes from the next episode, it looks like Hiro is actually the cause of Charlies death. He will probably go back in time, thinking he will save her, then he realizes that if he saves Charlie, then Claire will get chopped open by Sylar, giving him the healing power mad early in the show, causing him to win in the fight against Peter, causing the explosions. So then he will go back in time again and actually let Sylar kill her.

He already went back in time to save her once. It turns out she had a terminal blood clot in her brain. Hiro decided not to save her because she would inevitably die. If Hiro tried to save her again, he will most likely take her to the future where healing Peter will soon meet him, or grab her dead body after Sylar kills her and will try to have Peter restore her in the future.

fatj0 · 10-28-2009, 08:04 PM

He left before he found out about Peter's healing ability, that seems like a stretch. Watching those previews I was genuinely perplexed by what was going to happen and how it would affect the timeline of the show.

roastytoasty · 10-29-2009, 08:09 AM

If you guys check out the promo again, you can see Hiro holding Charlies head so that Sylar can get a chop at it. He's going to try and save her again, but he will eventually figure out that whatever happened happened, and he can't change the fact that Charlie has to die.

10-25-2009, 09:20 AM	#1
roastytoasty Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NY, LI Posts: 136	Season 2, Season 4 Everyone used to say how season 2 was horrible, and I could understand where they are coming from. I mean, they didn't even finish the season because of the writers strike. But here are a few reason why season 2 was so much better than this season 4. 1- Lack of characters. I just want to say, where the hell did they all go? Thank you Heroes for not giving an ending to so many characters. Here are a list of just a few. Mohinder, Micah, Maya, Micah's cousins, Luke Cambell, Aquaman, West, Kaitlin. There are others, but I don't feel like going on. 2- Bad guys. Lets be honest, the villains on this show are nothing short of minor inconveniences, and are all terminated easilly. Sylar is the only one that actually stood a chance, and that is why season 1 was the best. But lets forget about that for right now. Besides Sylar, we had Arthur, (who sucked), Danko, (who sucked), Nathan, (who sucked as a villain), and now Sammuel. Notice I left Adam Monroe out of that. My reason for that is that Adam Monroe was probably the best villain they had on this show, and they killed him off so easilly. So back to the topic at hand, Our new villain. Sammuel, is he good or bad? Who the hell knows, I don't. They haven't revealed any of his motives yet. Plus since were on the subject, where the hell was the carnival throughout the whole series? Adam was alive for over 300 years, and your trying to tell me they never recruited him? And Sylar, they couldn't get him when he was vulnerable in season 1, or 2, or 3? No, they have to get him when he turns into Nathan. It just doesn't make any sense. 3- Bad story lines. Seriously? Come on, I know you could do better than that. Claire going to college does not intrest me at all. I seriously don't care. Oh and good job Matt, take back your wife that cheated on you and probably had someone else baby. And now your going into a delusional psychosis? Well, that part is actually O.K. And Tracy going from this kick ass Ice-woman, back to her old job as a government worker. Yeah, thats why I watch this show, to see people talk to politicians! And Emma, don't even get me started. I can walk through the air too, it's not a big deal. Stop wasting our time, with every episode you going, "I don't want powers", then just walking through the air for five minutes. Your a waste of my time. And yeah, good idea with killing Nathan off, he was the best character on Heroes. And Sylars old self is gone. Ando is now lovey dovey with Kimiko, and his story line sucks. Hiro's dying, (But I have a feeling he wont be soon. I think he's gonna go back in time and save Charlie, which in turn changes the whole time-line). 4- I guess what I'm trying to say is, I don't care. Hereos season 4, you are officially my least favorite out of them all. I do have high hopes for you to get better, and you do have the potential, but I don't see that happening any time soon. __________________ R'T thou Oasty? SMILES ARE UNIVERSAL!!!

10-28-2009, 10:28 AM	#6
roastytoasty Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NY, LI Posts: 136	[FONT='Times New Roman','serif']For the most part, you guys are misunderstanding me. Just because season 4 is my least favorite season, that doesn’t mean that I dislike it. I still like Heroes, and I will watch it to the end. I’m just hoping that it gets better is all. And ‘fatj’, thank you for pointing out my grammatical errors, I hope you know I’m typing really fast, and can’t care about silly little things like and apostrophe when I am typing to people who don’t really care about it in the first place. fficeffice" />>>[/font] [FONT='Times New Roman','serif']Also, I understand why there are people out there that like this season, it might even be their favorite, but that’s their opinion. I’m just trying to state my own opinion. The reason why I posted this is because me and my friends were debating over which was better, season 2 or 4. I wasn’t saying I hated it, I was saying that it was worse than 2, that’s all. For instance, I am the biggest Lost fan, (That I know of anyway), and season 4 is my least favorite. I still like Lost more than any other show I know, so I don’t hate it. >>[/font] [FONT='Times New Roman','serif']So please understand, I’m not trying to hate on Heroes, because believe me, I have supported it since season 1 episode 1, I’m just hoping it gets better.>>[/font] [FONT='Times New Roman','serif']Anyway, you are right, after seeing the scenes from the next episode, it looks like Hiro is actually the cause of Charlies death. He will probably go back in time, thinking he will save her, then he realizes that if he saves Charlie, then Claire will get chopped open by Sylar, giving him the healing power mad early in the show, causing him to win in the fight against Peter, causing the explosions. So then he will go back in time again and actually let Sylar kill her.>>[/font] __________________ R'T thou Oasty? SMILES ARE UNIVERSAL!!!

10-28-2009, 10:29 AM	#7
roastytoasty Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NY, LI Posts: 136	Also, sorry about all that wierd font stuff going on there, I'm not sure how it ended up there... __________________ R'T thou Oasty? SMILES ARE UNIVERSAL!!!

10-29-2009, 08:09 AM	#10
roastytoasty Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NY, LI Posts: 136	If you guys check out the promo again, you can see Hiro holding Charlies head so that Sylar can get a chop at it. He's going to try and save her again, but he will eventually figure out that whatever happened happened, and he can't change the fact that Charlie has to die. __________________ R'T thou Oasty? SMILES ARE UNIVERSAL!!!

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10-25-2009, 07:25 PM	#2
fatj0 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 428	I know I'm nit-picking again, but as an english double-major, you are going to have to learn to stop using "your" when you mean "you're." The carnival travels... they might've been in canada during the previous events, that's a good way to miss out on things. You can stop watching if you want, I think this is the best season since s1, but that's just me. You obviously care enough about the show to come on here and tell us, despite grammatical and spelling errors, how little you care about it. I doubt he'll save Charlie, she was part of the reason he didn't save his own father, they're not going to mess with that. He probably just wants to finally kiss her. That's my guess. Jayma Mays (Charlie) is doing pretty well on her own show, Glee. I don't see her coming back for more than a couple episodes.

10-27-2009, 01:23 AM	#3
Urine Engineer Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 35	Maybe you should try watching the show. It's pretty clear that whoever died in the first episode of season 4 was preventing the carnival family from interacting with the company side of the world. The company most likely knew about the carnival, but the show is never filmed from the company's perspective. This person was most likely killed because of Nathan/Danko. In short: Volume 5's carnival plot is most likely a direct result of Volume 4's holocaust plot.

10-27-2009, 09:36 PM	#5
Urine Engineer Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 35	Last night's episode was pretty bad.

10-28-2009, 08:04 PM	#9
fatj0 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 428	He left before he found out about Peter's healing ability, that seems like a stretch. Watching those previews I was genuinely perplexed by what was going to happen and how it would affect the timeline of the show.