Why the "bad guys" are such a disappointment

[zombieslayer]

first off, sylar was way more of a better villain in season one than anyone we have seen since on the show. and we didn't even get to know him that well in season one, so it wasn't because we were invested in his character, it was just better writing.

i think with maury's ability, he could easily have been the kingpin. arthur is not scary at all from what i have seen so far.

flint and daphne are just idiots... they are so one-dimensional.

as for knox ... there was an episode of the 4400 titled "fear itself" where a father injected his autistic son with promicin in the hopes he would develop abilities and be able to lead a normal life. he was able to turn people's phobias against them when he was scared (one guy had a fear of clowns so everyone he saw was a messed up clown out to get him) ..... that was way cooler than knox's "inhale and bug eyes now i am stronger" routine.

they really need to step it up, it is pretty lame when the villains are no scarier than the good guys.

[kovalchuk]

..and good guys filled up with abilities, but an IQ/reasoning-level of a preschool boy.

[DuracellEnergizer]

Isn't that Heroes defining characteristic?

Building up hype for a character only to give them an anti-climatic introduction and/or departure?


Let's see ...


In the season 1 finale, we get a mention of the Nightmare Man ... a character said to be worse than Sylar.

I expected the Nightmare Man to be the main villain of season 2. I expected him to have, possibly, multiple powers. I figured he might be a thin middle-aged or elderly man with some sort of menacing demeanour.

What we get is Maury Parkman. A minor plot device with no major significance. The only thing cool about him was his power.

Worse than Sylar, he wasn't.


Then we get Adam Monroe/Takezo Kensei. A villain with a crappy power and a crappy motive.

The actor's talent was ultimately wasted.


Then we get the Level 5 villains.

Knox: I hate his power and the stupid facial expressions he makes when he gets his "rush."

Flint: Indifferent to him. I'm not impressed, but I don't hate him either.

Jesse: nothing more than a plot device. Only purpose is to serve as Peter's "host," and later as fodder for Sylar.

The German: a villain with an interesting power who gets killed off quickly, for no reason and in a sucky fashion.

Vortex: see above.

The puppet guy: an okay character. Slightly more interesting than Flint, but still not compelling.


Expect Heroes to continue introducing lackluster villains. It's what they want to do, to build up hype and ultimately dissapoint the viewer, for the sole purpose of reeling you in and increasing the ratings without having to put too much effort into character conception, execution, and development.

Sylar was the only good villain on the show, and he has long outlived his impact and importance.

[unknownspectrum172]

Originally Posted by DuracellEnergizer

Isn't that Heroes defining characteristic?

Building up hype for a character only to give them an anti-climatic introduction and/or departure?


Let's see ...


In the season 1 finale, we get a mention of the Nightmare Man ... a character said to be worse than Sylar.

I expected the Nightmare Man to be the main villain of season 2. I expected him to have, possibly, multiple powers. I figured he might be a thin middle-aged or elderly man with some sort of menacing demeanour.

What we get is Maury Parkman. A minor plot device with no major significance. The only thing cool about him was his power.

Worse than Sylar, he wasn't.


Then we get Adam Monroe/Takezo Kensei. A villain with a crappy power and a crappy motive.

The actor's talent was ultimately wasted.


Then we get the Level 5 villains.

Knox: I hate his power and the stupid facial expressions he makes when he gets his "rush."

Flint: Indifferent to him. I'm not impressed, but I don't hate him either.

Jesse: nothing more than a plot device. Only purpose is to serve as Peter's "host," and later as fodder for Sylar.

The German: a villain with an interesting power who gets killed off quickly, for no reason and in a sucky fashion.

Vortex: see above.

The puppet guy: an okay character. Slightly more interesting than Flint, but still not compelling.


Expect Heroes to continue introducing lackluster villains. It's what they want to do, to build up hype and ultimately dissapoint the viewer, for the sole purpose of reeling you in and increasing the ratings without having to put too much effort into character conception, execution, and development.

Sylar was the only good villain on the show, and he has long outlived his impact and importance.

Ok, although your comments are funny, they are also a bit pathetic. What the heck do you really expect? Your expectations are ridiculous. What could be cooler than a guy who gets stronger from peoples fear? a guy who can manipulate fire, and a guy who can manipulate metal? To be honest Flint should have been killed instead of German. But they didn't kill him because he is important as he turns out to be Meredith's brother. Also, the German's power is a little too powerful. Same with Stephen Cadfield with the vortexes. If he stayed, he could just kill all of them simple. They only showed them off and had to get rid of them because they are too powerful. Adam is not a real villain like Sylar, Mr. Linderman, or Maury. Adam needed to die because he's not evil. Now Maury is killed too so they can focus on Arthur Petrelli, who is really evil. Just remember, there are still like 5 more villains left. One of them we know is a big black guy. Anyways, point is, its not fair for you to judge their choice in villains. They cant make too powerful villains because it would be impossible to kill them. Just think a little before you post comments.

[zombieslayer]

Originally Posted by unknownspectrum172

Ok, although your comments are funny, they are also a bit pathetic. What the heck do you really expect? Your expectations are ridiculous. What could be cooler than a guy who gets stronger from peoples fear? a guy who can manipulate fire, and a guy who can manipulate metal? To be honest Flint should have been killed instead of German. But they didn't kill him because he is important as he turns out to be Meredith's brother. Also, the German's power is a little too powerful. Same with Stephen Cadfield with the vortexes. If he stayed, he could just kill all of them simple. They only showed them off and had to get rid of them because they are too powerful. Adam is not a real villain like Sylar, Mr. Linderman, or Maury. Adam needed to die because he's not evil. Now Maury is killed too so they can focus on Arthur Petrelli, who is really evil. Just remember, there are still like 5 more villains left. One of them we know is a big black guy. Anyways, point is, its not fair for you to judge their choice in villains. They cant make too powerful villains because it would be impossible to kill them. Just think a little before you post comments.

think before you post? how about use spoiler tags (the flint info) ... what a douche bag thing to do

[DuracellEnergizer]

Originally Posted by unknownspectrum172

Ok, although your comments are funny, they are also a bit pathetic. What the heck do you really expect? Your expectations are ridiculous.

My expectations are ridiculous? When I'm told there is a villain out there worse than Sylar, I expect the villain to be actually worse than Sylar! I do not expect the villain to be little more than an average foe, but some nasty guy I would not want to meet in a dark alley.

I expected the hype around the character to be justified. My expectations were reasonable.

What could be cooler than a guy who gets stronger from peoples fear?

I don't know ... Maybe a guy who could intensify a person's fear? Perhaps intensify a person's fear and then feed on the fear in order to gain said strength?

Also, the German's power is a little too powerful. Same with Stephen Cadfield with the vortexes. If he stayed, he could just kill all of them simple. They only showed them off and had to get rid of them because they are too powerful.

Don't tease the audience with an interesting power and/or character. Put them to good use, or introduce a villain with a more mundane power who can fill the same purpose.

Adam is not a real villain like Sylar, Mr. Linderman, or Maury. Adam needed to die because he's not evil. Now Maury is killed too so they can focus on Arthur Petrelli, who is really evil.

Since they sucked in the first place, and have outlived their original purpose, just have a bigger baddie kill them off to serve as plot devices in the writers' convoluted storyline ...

Just remember, there are still like 5 more villains left. One of them we know is a big black guy.

The Haitian's brother, right? I'm not giving my hopes up that he'll have an overtly interesting power.

Anyways, point is, its not fair for you to judge their choice in villains. They cant make too powerful villains because it would be impossible to kill them.

I'm not asking them to create all-powerful, unbeatable villains - just good ones.

Just think a little before you post comments.

Likewise.

[hazimhashim21]

you are right duracell.the villains from levle 5 are so weak and easily get killed.i hope they would create a new much more powerful villain.not so many maybe one or two so the heroes would have to work harder to defeat them.sylar killed jesse so easily that jesse looks like a little non-danger puppy.the season 3 promo looks like the lvl 5 escapees is much more worse than sylar.but they are not.i bet sylar could defeat knox easily because knox cannot explode orabsorb powers or something.the only strong villain is arthur.but he is kinda old.the title villains is superb but i dont think it lives up with the expectations yet.i hope they brought some new villain maybe one of the founders and maybe a person that had powers long bfore adam/kensei did.

[hazimhashim21]

maybe one of the first person that had powers(heroes origin)

[ChaunceyDNA]

don't forget that all these villains were probably captured before they really fully realized their powers just like the heroes are learning about theirs. that may be why they aren't so advanced.

i would like to have seen how each of them were actually captured because their powers are pretty intense right now.

they had to sneak up on the puppetmaster, they had to get knox without being afraid and the vortex guy i don't know.

has anyone seen any of the webisodes? the constrictor guy is pretty crazy and they repeated another power with another guy too.

[dominion]

ok who's the german guy who can manipulate metal

which episode did this magneto's twin brother appear in? i cant seem to recall