Kenzi V Hiro

Whens_it_gonna_make_sense · 11-06-2007, 03:52 PM

Hey guys,

I Know Kenzi has been locked up for the last 30 years and im not sure if Hiro is 30 or not, but if he really wanted revenge why not kill Mr Nakamura when he first met him surely if his hatred for Hiro is that bad its not a name he would have forgot???

Got to say this season has been great totally sucked right in and having to wait a week to find out what happens is killin me, think they should start makin 2 episodes a week

shano · 11-06-2007, 05:33 PM

if adam had killed mr nakamura b4 he gave birth to hiro then hiro would never had gone back in time and adams past would have changed dramitically

fatj0 · 11-06-2007, 07:22 PM

agreed, gotta avoid the paradox. also, if he killed him before he did it than it wouldn't be nearly as satisfying, it wouldn't be revenge it would just be mean.

oldounce · 11-07-2007, 02:08 AM

agree with Shano and fatj0
Kensei wouldn't kill Hiro's Dad too early because he still need Hiro to go back to ancient Japan then to change his life. As though he didn't regret the condition that actually swordsmith's daughter never love him. He more would like to be a revenger than to be an useless drunkard and never know what's love.
But I still am confused about how he got to modern time, had he really been buried alive for over 400 years?

mkoijn1 · 11-07-2007, 05:46 AM

But he was locked away? He killed him as soon as he escaped =P

Robert_DarkFall · 11-07-2007, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by oldounce

agree with Shano and fatj0
Kensei wouldn't kill Hiro's Dad too early because he still need Hiro to go back to ancient Japan then to change his life. As though he didn't regret the condition that actually swordsmith's daughter never love him. He more would like to be a revenger than to be an useless drunkard and never know what's love.
But I still am confused about how he got to modern time, had he really been buried alive for over 400 years?

He's Immortal. Another thought on why adam waited lies in the very oath he swore against hiro - to take everything Hiro loves away from him. He would have to wait until Hiro had built a love, respect and bond for his father that would sufficiently hurt him if he lost him.

FAN · 11-07-2007, 07:57 AM

I think that anyone who has that much hatred and revenge in their heart, actually grow to love it. If Adam killed Kaito too soon, then hiro wouldn't go back in time (as was already mentioned) and Adam past changed and he wouldn't have that hatred. I'm not sure that Adam would understand all that, and I agree that he started going after the 12 as soon as he escaped from prison (thanks to Peter IMO). Does any of this make sense? Peter's little spirit is going to be crushed when he realizes that it's because he helped Adam that all this is taking place.

fatj0 · 11-07-2007, 11:45 AM

i don't think kaito was killed because of the vendetta sworn against hiro, i'm fairly certain it was because kaito was one of those resposible for locking him away. a lover's quarrel is a pretty petty excuse to kill someone that had nothing to do with it.

Robert_DarkFall · 11-07-2007, 12:06 PM

Perhaps - but then again that wording was very strong and I dont think it's all about the swordsmith's daughter. He seems to have a seething hatred for Hiro now - maybe because Hiro turned out to be more of a hero than Kensei could have been - I don't know - but it seems to me to be more than just about a love triangle at this point.

Joshjb · 11-08-2007, 10:08 AM

I agree with Robert.
It seems that Kensei/Adam hates Hiro with a passion.
I really don't know why, but I'm pretty sure it's not because of the love triangle.
He never actually seemed too interested in the princess IMO.

11-06-2007, 03:52 PM	#1
Whens_it_gonna_make_sense Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 5	Kenzi V Hiro Hey guys, I Know Kenzi has been locked up for the last 30 years and im not sure if Hiro is 30 or not, but if he really wanted revenge why not kill Mr Nakamura when he first met him surely if his hatred for Hiro is that bad its not a name he would have forgot??? Got to say this season has been great totally sucked right in and having to wait a week to find out what happens is killin me, think they should start makin 2 episodes a week

11-07-2007, 12:06 PM	#9
Robert_DarkFall Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 387	Perhaps - but then again that wording was very strong and I dont think it's all about the swordsmith's daughter. He seems to have a seething hatred for Hiro now - maybe because Hiro turned out to be more of a hero than Kensei could have been - I don't know - but it seems to me to be more than just about a love triangle at this point. __________________ R083R7 D4RKF4LL - CIO - Save The Rat Club! My SideK!ck IS my SuperHero!... It's a SideK!ck thing, you wouldn't understand. http://www.newworldsrd.blogspot.com

11-08-2007, 10:08 AM	#10
Joshjb Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,289	I agree with Robert. It seems that Kensei/Adam hates Hiro with a passion. I really don't know why, but I'm pretty sure it's not because of the love triangle. He never actually seemed too interested in the princess IMO. __________________

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11-06-2007, 05:33 PM	#2
shano Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 17	if adam had killed mr nakamura b4 he gave birth to hiro then hiro would never had gone back in time and adams past would have changed dramitically

11-06-2007, 07:22 PM	#3
fatj0 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 368	agreed, gotta avoid the paradox. also, if he killed him before he did it than it wouldn't be nearly as satisfying, it wouldn't be revenge it would just be mean.

11-07-2007, 02:08 AM	#4
oldounce Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 131	agree with Shano and fatj0 Kensei wouldn't kill Hiro's Dad too early because he still need Hiro to go back to ancient Japan then to change his life. As though he didn't regret the condition that actually swordsmith's daughter never love him. He more would like to be a revenger than to be an useless drunkard and never know what's love. But I still am confused about how he got to modern time, had he really been buried alive for over 400 years?

11-07-2007, 05:46 AM	#5
mkoijn1 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 9	But he was locked away? He killed him as soon as he escaped =P

11-07-2007, 07:57 AM	#7
FAN Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 37	I think that anyone who has that much hatred and revenge in their heart, actually grow to love it. If Adam killed Kaito too soon, then hiro wouldn't go back in time (as was already mentioned) and Adam past changed and he wouldn't have that hatred. I'm not sure that Adam would understand all that, and I agree that he started going after the 12 as soon as he escaped from prison (thanks to Peter IMO). Does any of this make sense? Peter's little spirit is going to be crushed when he realizes that it's because he helped Adam that all this is taking place.

11-07-2007, 11:45 AM	#8
fatj0 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 368	i don't think kaito was killed because of the vendetta sworn against hiro, i'm fairly certain it was because kaito was one of those resposible for locking him away. a lover's quarrel is a pretty petty excuse to kill someone that had nothing to do with it.